National Postcodes to be introduced

ukoda

Carawaystick wrote: »

What's the query for latitude/longitude in the eircode file? Is it GEOGRAPHIC or
GEODIRECTORY_LOOKUP ?
What's the positional resolution?
I know of 2 rural semi-d cottages with the doors beside each other, so if the doors are 3' and a jack wall of 1', the letterboxes are 4' apart

How will those addresses get their eircodes delivered correctly? if the eircode delivery person stands slouching to their favoured side, the separation will be lower, and the likelihood of error greater.

When is the geodirectory going to be updated with the latest postal addresses before the eircodes are sent out?

If you read the product guide it will answer all those questions for you.

The geo's are centroid. So the coordinates don't point to the letter box, they point to the centre of the building.

It would really be a worth while exercise for people to have a proper read of the product guide.

Carawaystick

The product guide seems not to be freely available. I can not agree to all of the terms and conditions capita want me to to register to download the product guide. Particularily

eircodeTermsAndConditions wrote:

post content or initiate communications which are ... embarrassing to any other person as determined by us in our sole discretion

Eircode embarrass themselves by failing to deliver their advertised services on time

Sam Russell

... embarrassing to any other person as determined by us in our sole discretion.

Judge and jury in their own case.

Jakey Rolling

So, another courier delivery today, arrived after the usual couple of phone calls to find our house by a process of iteration - turn at the old church, pass the cottage with the green door and mad terrier etc.

Me "So these new postcodes will be a great help to you"
Courier "Wha?"
Me "They'll give you the exact location on your SatNav "
Courier "Don't want to get one of them, I'd be forever stopping to look at directions. I'd rather phone for directions"

There's no helping some people!

dr.fuzzenstein

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

So, another courier delivery today, arrived after the usual couple of phone calls to find our house by a process of iteration - turn at the old church, pass the cottage with the green door and mad terrier etc.

Me "So these new postcodes will be a great help to you"
Courier "Wha?"
Me "They'll give you the exact location on your SatNav "
Courier "Don't want to get one of them, I'd be forever stopping to look at directions. I'd rather phone for directions"

There's no helping some people!

To some people they will be useless. They're easily spotted. Mid 60's, glasses still from the old health board, Father Jack sense of style, usually found driving in the middle of the road at 60 km/h. The type of person who thinks that the VHS recorder and fax machines are the zenith of technology and they haven't caught on to all that compuuuther malarkey and shure it's only rubbish anyway. "Who needs a computer when I can fix my old Escort with a hammer, a pliers, a rusty screwdriver and baling twine!"
Sometimes found at steam rallies saying "Oh, the new one is out!"

MBSnr

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

So, another courier delivery today, arrived after the usual couple of phone calls to find our house by a process of iteration - turn at the old church, pass the cottage with the green door and mad terrier etc.

Me "So these new postcodes will be a great help to you"
Courier "Wha?"
Me "They'll give you the exact location on your SatNav "
Courier "Don't want to get one of them, I'd be forever stopping to look at directions. I'd rather phone for directions"

There's no helping some people!

Genius.... Presumably he has an idea where he's going before he rings (it's not like he's on the East coast phoning you on the West coast) so he'd only need to look at it for the last mile or so. If he works for a courier company, it's likely they would look to invest in them for their drivers. It's a catch-22. Postcodes don't exist as yet so he can't see the benefit of them in his job....

irishgeo

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

So, another courier delivery today, arrived after the usual couple of phone calls to find our house by a process of iteration - turn at the old church, pass the cottage with the green door and mad terrier etc.

Me "So these new postcodes will be a great help to you"
Courier "Wha?"
Me "They'll give you the exact location on your SatNav "
Courier "Don't want to get one of them, I'd be forever stopping to look at directions. I'd rather phone for directions"

There's no helping some people!

doesnt he realise they speak the directions.

Sam Russell

irishgeo wrote: »

doesnt he realise they speak the directions.

Perhaps he doesn't speak English.

L1011

Someone is doing market research on whether people know about Eircode, how well they've been informed and whether they're pro/anti them. Could be Capita, the Department or a losing bidder for all I know.

dr.fuzzenstein

L1011 wrote: »

Someone is doing market research on whether people know about Eircode, how well they've been informed and whether they're pro/anti them. Could be Capita, the Department or a losing bidder for all I know.

I'd say 90% don't know and couldn't give a sh*te.

Sam Russell

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I'd say 90% don't know and couldn't give a sh*te.

I'd say the other 10% do know and think it's sh*te.

dr.fuzzenstein

Sam Russell wrote: »

I'd say the other 10% do know and think it's sh*te.

Not as sh*te as what we currently have:

Sam Spud
The Boreen Road
The Arsehole of Nowhere
Co Cavan

Sam Russell

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Not as sh*te as what we currently have:

Sam Spud
The Boreen Road
The Arsehole of Nowhere
Co Cavan

Maybe, but we could have done so much better. Poor design, and not meeting any of the design goals set. And not even launching on time, after decades of kicking the can (of worms) down the road..

marmurr1916

Sam Russell wrote: »

Perhaps he doesn't speak English.

Might be a bit difficult for him to phone for directions then.

Courier "Don't want to get one of them, I'd be forever stopping to look at directions. I'd rather phone for directions"

At least with a satnav, you can choose the language.

a postere

Are postcodes not dead in the water thanks to the Irish Water fiasco and an election coming up ?

marmurr1916

seamus wrote: »

Funny we were discussing this at home last night, the only thing I can see scuppering a May launch is the fact that the general public is not aware of it. Nobody I know is aware of this.
And there are a lot of people in Dublin going to be very upset about losing their postcode, we'll see people writing "Dublin 6W" and "Dublin 4" as their address before their eircode for years to come.

I live right on the border between D24 and D16 which means there's a good chance we'll all share the same routing code. There'll be a lot of upset people about it.

Someone in the Dail will get angry calls from their Donnybrook constituents and will try to call a halt to the whole thing.

The routing code part of Dublin Eircodes will be based on the existing Dublin postal districts.

If you live in Dublin 24 now, the first part of your Eircode will be D24. If you live in Dublin 4 now, the first part of your Eircode wil be D04, etc, etc. Even Dublin 6W will be retained.

marmurr1916

a postere wrote: »

Are postcodes not dead in the water thanks to the Irish Water fiasco and an election coming up ?

Have there been large public marches protesting against the introduction of Eircodes?

Are any of the political parties making an issue of Eircodes? Are any of them them opposed to Eircodes?

The next general election will be held about one year from now, in the spring of 2016.

dr.fuzzenstein

marmurr1916 wrote: »

Have there been large public marches protesting against the introduction of Eircodes?

Are any of the political parties making an issue of Eircodes? Are any of them them opposed to Eircodes?

The next general election will be held about one year from now, in the spring of 2016.

Right. If there's a holdup, it's due to the usual laziness, incompetence and lack of funding. Unless it's something big and glittering to garner votes, the Irish government (no matter who that may be) couldn't give a flying sh*te.
They just want big, glittery shiny campaigns to get votes and if the country actually works it's juts a happy coincidence. None of them cares a fig beyond their own arse.

a postere

marmurr1916 wrote: »

Have there been large public marches protesting against the introduction of Eircodes?

Are any of the political parties making an issue of Eircodes? Are any of them them opposed to Eircodes?

The next general election will be held about one year from now, in the spring of 2016.

What about the question I asked ?

irishgeo

marmurr1916 wrote: »

Have there been large public marches protesting against the introduction of Eircodes?

Are any of the political parties making an issue of Eircodes? Are any of them them opposed to Eircodes?

The next general election will be held about one year from now, in the spring of 2016.

it will make the delivery of election crap much easier:D

dashcamdanny

a postere wrote: »

Are postcodes not dead in the water thanks to the Irish Water fiasco and an election coming up ?

No.

Irish water have nothing to do with postcodes. It will make your bill find the right home though, but it will also make your deliveries arrive to the correct house.

In a world drivin by online markets in the future, it is essential for your home to be located .
Driving around a townland looking for Mrs Browns house is not acceptable for delivery companies anymore.

Time to bring us out of the stone age.

marmurr1916

a postere wrote: »

What about the question I asked ?

What about it? :rolleyes:

paulbok

does anyone know when the final decision/ piece of legislation/ whatever is needed, is due to be made?
It must be very soon if the roll out is scheduled for June.

SpaceTime

irishgeo wrote: »

it will make the delivery of election crap much easier:D

Election marketing's about as non-targeted as it comes! They just push unaddressed junk through every letterbox.

Although to be honest, I'm not that annoyed by electoral stuff as a lot of people aren't really reachable any other way.

It's more the large wad of supermarket fliers I get through the door all the time that I never read and I put straight into the recycle bin. Also, huge catalogues from a certain stationary company that keep arriving no matter what I do.

Targeted marketing at least might be a bit more relevant than just chucking a huge pile of paper through a letterbox and hoping it's vaguely of interest to someone inside.

It's environmentally less damaging too if it's at least focused.

recedite

paulbok wrote: »

does anyone know when the final decision/ piece of legislation/ whatever is needed, is due to be made?
It must be very soon if the roll out is scheduled for June.

Ah yes, it'll be any day now.
Try this link

..Minister Ryan said he expects new postal codes with digits and letters to be introduced in 2011.
In 2005, the then Minister for Communications, Noel Dempsey, promised a new system by 2008.

Oops! that one is out of date
Lets see if we can find another...

John Joe Jones

pro eircode propaganda piece on RTE 1 television now saying it will be the best in the world blah blah blah

ukoda

John Joe Jones wrote: »

pro eircode propaganda piece on RTE 1 television now saying it will be the best in the world blah blah blah

Anymore details? A TV ad? Discussion on a particular show? News item?

John Joe Jones

ukoda wrote: »

Anymore details? A TV ad? Discussion on a particular show? News item?

Discussion on the today show

yuloni

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recedite

yuloni wrote: »

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Is Daithi keeping one of the tablets for himself, because he says you get a chance to win ONE of them.
These guys are really pulling out all the stops now, no expense spared