National Postcodes to be introduced

recedite

Dardania wrote: »

So my house has a BER, and a couple of neighbours have sold their houses in the last year or two. I managed to find the BER cert for the neighhbour 10 houses away from me, and their postcode (the last 4 characters, after first three characters which are the same) is quite different to mine - pretty annonymised

That's how it works. The first 3 are the routing code, and the last 4 are totally random.

recedite

SpaceTime wrote: »

Blackrock in Dublin is A94 anyway.

I think Greystones in Co. Wicklow was A26. So a nearby area, which is in a different county, can sometimes be similar, though not always.

antoinolachtnai

The areas with the same first letter should be sort-of adjacent, but the routing code areas are said to be very odd shapes.

It is all arranged the way to suit the An post sorting frames apparently.

moyners

Trouwe Ier wrote: »

So to date, we know the following:

A - South East Dublin (probably the most affluent part of the Republic and it gets "A")
C -
D - Dublin
E -
F -
H - Galway
K - Co. Dublin (part)
N - Longford and Westmeath
P - Deep South Cork
R - Laois and Offaly
T - Cork City and East Hinterland
V - Limerick
W -
X - Waterford
Y -

C,. E, F, W and Y are left.

Does anyone have any information on the north-west, north east, south-east, Clare, Tipperary or Kerry?

I'll say it again, Blackrock and presumably Dún Laoghaire, Foxrock etc get "A": now that does sound suspicious to me. It would probably have been better if they hadn't used that letter.

Ennis, Co. Clare is also V(95). My parents live in Roscommon but their post is in the Longford district and they're N. Union hall in West Cork is P81.

byrnefm

Stillorgan, like Blackrock, was A94.

BTW saw this mentioned in a post on another website - are the new Eircodes now signed into law? Date given is July 2: http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/currentissues/IR070715.pdf

Bayberry

Trouwe Ier wrote: »

A - South East Dublin (probably the most affluent part of the Republic and it gets "A")
D - Dublin
H - Galway
K - Co. Dublin (part)
P - Deep South Cork
T - Cork City and East Hinterland
V - Limerick
X - Waterford

I think that leaves C, E, F, N, R, W, Y.

I looked at some houses in Boyle that had F54 as far as I can remember.

OssianSmyth

Trouwe Ier wrote: »

I'll say it again, Blackrock and presumably Dún Laoghaire, Foxrock etc get "A":

Foxrock is D18!
Booterstown, Mount Merrion, Stillorgan, Blackrock, Monkstown are A94
Dún Laoghaire, Dalkey, Sallynoggin are A96

SpaceTime

Deedsie wrote: »

Tipperary is E

This is an Eircode from Nenagh: E45 WT##

WT is random so, only first 3 characters actually matter.

The Cush

byrnefm wrote: »

BTW saw this mentioned in a post on another website - are the new Eircodes now signed into law? Date given is July 2: http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/currentissues/IR070715.pdf

Here's the notice, yes it's law since last Thursday, Act Number 20 of 2015

Trouwe Ier

The Cush wrote: »

Here's the notice, yes it's law since last Thursday

Everything bi-lingual except the actual title of the Act itself: so Irish!

So there's nothing to stop the launch now except booking the advertising!

The Cush

The following letters will be used in the Eircode

A,C,D,E,F,H,K,N,P,R,T,V,W,X,Y

no B, G, I, J, L, M, O, Q, S, U, Z

I can understand B (8), I (1), J (I), O (0), Q (0), S (5), Z (2) being confused with numbers but G, L, M, U?

Maybe M/N and U/W sound verbally similar?
What about G and L?

SpaceTime

The Cush wrote: »

The following letters will be used in the Eircode

A,C,D,E,F,H,K,N,P,R,T,V,W,X,Y

no B, G, I, J, L, M, O, Q, S, U, Z

I can understand B (8), I (1), J (I), O (0), Q (0), S (5), Z (2) being confused with numbers but G, L, M, U?

Maybe M/N and U/W sound verbally similar?
What about G and L?

Could be because in handwriting they can look like 6 and 4

Jack180570

ukoda wrote: »

Loc8 got government funding via the IDA. They haven't flourish because of their own mismanagement.

The only thing they seem to flourish at are smear campaigns.

Ukoda, you clearly are either (1) misinformed (2) have a vested interest in Eircode or (3) simple do not know enough to realise that Eircode is a very poor code in comparison to Loc8 Code.
Your statement that Loc8 hasn't flourished because of its own mismanagement is a clear lie by you and is probably libelous. I am amazed that the moderators have not removed your post and banned you for making such slanderous, subjective and unsubstantiated comments.

ukoda

Jack180570 wrote: »

Ukoda, you clearly are either (1) misinformed (2) have a vested interest in Eircode or (3) simple do not know enough to realise that Eircode is a very poor code in comparison to Loc8 Code.
Your statement that Loc8 hasn't flourished because of its own mismanagement is a clear lie by you and is probably libelous. I am amazed that the moderators have not removed your post and banned you for making such slanderous, subjective and unsubstantiated comments.

Its all my opinion, how about you substantiate the success of Loc8 with some figures?

How many active users on anyone one day?
How many codes entered on Garmin Sat navs in any one day?
What percentage of the population have created a Loc8?
How many times has it been used in an emergency situation?
How many companies use Loc8?

Im happy to be proven wrong, go for it.

dr.fuzzenstein

Jack180570 wrote: »

Ukoda, you clearly are either (1) misinformed (2) have a vested interest in Eircode or (3) simple do not know enough to realise that Eircode is a very poor code in comparison to Loc8 Code.
Your statement that Loc8 hasn't flourished because of its own mismanagement is a clear lie by you and is probably libelous. I am amazed that the moderators have not removed your post and banned you for making such slanderous, subjective and unsubstantiated comments.

Well, at least their marketing team are utter sh*t, because I never heard of them until I read this thread.
So they must have engaged in years of energetic navel gazing, only waking up when Eircode got announced.
I can imagine the manager snoozing with his feet up on his desk, falling off his chair backwards when he read the news.
For years Loc8 was the best kept secret in Ireland.

Sam Russell

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

For years Loc8 was the best kept secret in Ireland.

I think Eircode qualify for that - as just days before its launch, every aspect of its design is a complete secret.

Victor

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Well, at least their marketing team are utter sh*t, because I never heard of them until I read this thread.
So they must have engaged in years of energetic navel gazing, only waking up when Eircode got announced.
I can imagine the manager snoozing with his feet up on his desk, falling off his chair backwards when he read the news.
For years Loc8 was the best kept secret in Ireland.

Constructive posts only please.

Moderator

dr.fuzzenstein

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

For years Loc8 was the best kept secret in Ireland.

Sam Russell wrote: »

I think Eircode qualify for that - as just days before its launch, every aspect of its design is a complete secret.

I was aware of Loc8 quite a few years ago and provided it several times to get deliveries, then they changed the codes and that screwed things up a bit.

As for Eircodes, why the delay in (& hiding pre launch) making public the codes.

plodder

antoinolachtnai wrote: »

The areas with the same first letter should be sort-of adjacent, but the routing code areas are said to be very odd shapes.

It is all arranged the way to suit the An post sorting frames apparently.

if they are based on An Post delivery zones (and there's reason to speculate they are) then some of them will be unusual eg.


They could have split that one in two, which would be the sensible thing to do. Cork city could be interesting too..

tvc15

plodder wrote: »

if they are based on An Post delivery zones (and there's reason to speculate they are) then some of them will be unusual eg.


They could have split that one in two, which would be the sensible thing to do. Cork city could be interesting too..

Cool! Where is this map from?

plodder

tvc15 wrote: »

Cool! Where is this map from?

Here

Zoom in a bit to see the zones.

antoinolachtnai

plodder wrote: »

Here

Zoom in a bit to see the zones.

I am led to believe it is a lot worse than that example in places. You can have houses along one side of the road in one code so you have these long narrow bits. The other side of the road is another long narrow bit from another routing code.

plodder

antoinolachtnai wrote: »

I am led to believe it is a lot worse than that example in places. You can have houses along one side of the road in one code so you have these long narrow bits. The other side of the road is another long narrow bit from another routing code.

Funny that. When I originally made the argument in favour of small areas, someone pointed out that the SAs would divide roads like that.

There are also many non contiguous areas, particularly in and around towns, lumped in together. Doubtless, there's history and interesting stories to be told about them all. :pac:

Deedsie

Any chance the an post delivery areas will have been updated to a bit more common sense boundaries?

Trouwe Ier

Thanks for the updates: this is what appears to be the story so far (E&OE)

A - South East Dublin and North Wicklow (probably the most affluent part of the Republic and it gets "A")
C -
D - Dublin
E - Tipperary
F - North Roscommon and presumably Sligo
H - Galway
K - Co. Dublin (part)
N - Longford and Westmeath
P - Deep South Cork
R - Laois and Offaly
T - Cork City and East Hinterland
V - Limerick and Clare
W -
X - Waterford
Y -

So we are left with "C", "W" and "Y" and the following swathes of territory.

Cavan and Monaghan
Donegal and Leitrim (perhaps Boyle's "F"?)
Kerry (perhaps Cork's "P"?)
Kildare
Kilkenny (perhaps Tipperary's "E" or Waterford's "X"?)
Louth and Meath
Mayo (Galway's "H" or Sligo's "F")
Wexford and South Wicklow (will hardly be assigned "W")

Deleted User wrote: »

As for Eircodes, why the delay in (& hiding pre launch) making public the codes.

A very good question indeed now that the law of the land is ready for Eircode.

It's hardly the prospect of being taken to Europe by the FTAI.

Apart from the potential for grumblings from councillors in South Clare, South Kilkenny and South Roscommon, I can't see any other elephants in the room at present.

The derelict Eircode website is a poor indictment of their publicity management as is the following:

Eircode
@ Eircode
Eircode - Location codes for Irish addressess
eircode.ie
0
TWEETS
0
FOLLOWING
155
FOLLOWERS

pfinch

I don't think routing key boundaries will be provided as they are not intended to be used for grouping or delivery, you will be able to match Eircodes to Small Areas, ED's or your own custom delivery zones/boundaries.

plodder

pfinch wrote: »

I don't think routing key boundaries will be provided as they are not intended to be used for grouping or delivery, you will be able to match Eircodes to Small Areas, ED's or your own custom delivery zones/boundaries.

They won't be provided by Eircode. But, they will be provided by third parties.

Trouwe Ier

plodder wrote: »

Here

Zoom in a bit to see the zones.

Click on Tulla, east of Ennis or Ballynacally to the south south-west of Ennis.

Something like the United Arab Republic or Pakistan post-independence.

plodder

Trouwe Ier wrote: »

Click on Tulla, east of Ennis or Ballynacally to the south south-west of Ennis.

Something like the United Arab Republic or Pakistan post-independence.

Or Cork city. There's a school in one area surrounded completely by another area.

GJG

antoinolachtnai wrote: »

I am led to believe it is a lot worse than that example in places. You can have houses along one side of the road in one code so you have these long narrow bits. The other side of the road is another long narrow bit from another routing code.

Presuming that there is more than one postcode area within the country, could that be achieved without a boundary occurring somewhere?

If some of those boundaries occur in urban areas - inevitable unless an entire city has the same code - then isn't it inevitable that some houses are next door to, or across the street from, a house with a different code?