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English Comparatives LC 2010

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  • 21-09-2009 4:20pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭


    Would these texts be a good group for the comparative at higher level?

    Wuthering Heights
    A Doll's House
    Oedipus the King

    EDIT: Might throw 'The Tempest' into the pot as well and ditch one of the above. Think 3 is the most you can answer on.

    The Comparative Modes for Examination in 2010 (Higher) are:

    (i) Literary Genre
    (ii) The General Vision and Viewpoint
    (iii) The Cultural Context


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 paperheart


    I haven't read either of the last two books you've mentioned but my class is studying Wuthering Heights and The Girl With The Pearl Earring for the comparative.

    You can do 3 books for the comparative? :o
    it sounds like a lot more work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    paperheart wrote: »
    The Girl With The Pearl Earring .....

    You can do 3 books for the comparative?

    oh yeah GWTPE would be good. Wasn't there a film made of that? Most people do 3 texts I believe plus the single text


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 paperheart


    pathway33 wrote: »
    oh yeah GWTPE would be good. Wasn't there a film made of that? Most people do 3 texts I believe plus the single text

    Now i feel deprived lol, my teacher only chose two novels for the comparative. Maybe it's for the best though, i am pretty lazy and another book could be ''the straw that broke the camel's back''. :D

    Edit: GWTPE is a very simple novel (compared to wuthering heights) and works great for the comparative of Wuthering Heights under cultural context like the role of women, religion, the setting etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    paperheart wrote: »
    another book

    you're allowed to do 1 film

    2010 list is

    casablanca
    billy elliot
    richard III
    INSIDE I'M DANCING
    Il postino
    the truman show

    can't hurt to throw a line from one of them into your answer :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 paperheart


    pathway33 wrote: »
    you're allowed to do 1 film

    2010 list is

    casablanca
    billy elliot
    richard III
    INSIDE I'M DANCING
    Il postino
    the truman show

    can't hurt to throw a line from one of them into your answer :D

    We're doing casablanca i believe :D.
    ''Here's looking at you kid''
    Ahh i'm already a pro lol.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    paperheart wrote: »
    We're doing casablanca i believe :D.
    ''Here's looking at you kid''
    Ahh i'm already a pro lol.

    You're on the pigs back so. Up de banner :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    pathway33 wrote: »
    Most people do 3 texts I believe plus the single text

    EVERYBODY does 3 texts (you'll get away with two at OL), because that's what the course specifies. Why make life harder? You won't get a single extra mark for doing 4 or 'throwing in a line' from one of the films.

    If you do The Tempest, then you've covered yourself for Shakespeare and are free to do another of the specified texts for the single text.

    It makes for a bit of variety to do a play, novel and film. It should also make your literary genre essay more interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    paperheart wrote: »
    You can do 3 books for the comparative? :o
    it sounds like a lot more work.
    You're required to do three. I believe two is the absolute minimum, but you're really shooting yourself in the foot if you don't do a third.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 paperheart


    Lawliet wrote: »
    You're required to do three. I believe two is the absolute minimum, but you're really shooting yourself in the foot if you don't do a third.

    Well as far as i know we're studying King Lear, Casablanca, Wuthering Heights and Girl With A Pearl Earring.
    I'll mention it to my english teacher today after class.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    paperheart wrote: »
    we're studying King Lear, Casablanca, Wuthering Heights and Girl With A Pearl Earring.

    That's perfect.

    For higher level you either study

    * 4 texts as in the single text and 3 comparative texts.

    OR

    * 3 texts and 1 film as in 1 single text and 2 texts and the film for the comparative as you are doing.

    As long as shakespeare for higher level is thrown into the mix then you're on de pigs back :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭LovexxLife


    For the comparative, my class is doing king lear, trumen show and lies of silence


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    pathway33 wrote: »
    For higher level you either study

    * 4 texts as in the single text and 3 comparative texts.

    OR

    * 3 texts and 1 film as in 1 single text and 2 texts and the film for the comparative as you are doing.

    For the purposes of the syllabus, a film IS a text, so you're just making it sound more complicated than it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭caroline1111


    For the comparitive we're doing Sive, Billy Elliot and Pride and Prejudice. King Lear as a single text.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭IHeartChemistry


    For the comparitive we're doing Sive, Billy Elliot and Pride and Prejudice. King Lear as a single text.

    Me too, except I'm doing Il Postino as my film, Hate Pride and Predjuice, Love Sive, haven't done film yet. Hoping it'll be good :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Kersmash


    My class is doing The Bookseller of Kabul(Shíte book), Playboy of the Western World(booooring) and we haven't decided which film yet, toss up between The Truman Show and Inside I'm Dancing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭swatch


    My class is doing Dancing at Lughnasa, Pride and Prejudice and Billy Elliot. Dancing at lughnasa is about 40 pages long but yet manages to bore the living daylights out of you:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 jabn


    For the comparative my class is doing Pride and Prejudice, Billy Elliot and Dancing at Lughnasa. Our teacher told us that we have to prepare the key moments for these texts ourselves. I was out of school when the class was reading and discussing Dancing at Lughnasa and I was wondering if someone could upload key moments that they have prepared for Dancing at Lughnasa. I am fine with the key moments for the other two texts and I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out with Dancing at Lughnasa.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    jabn wrote: »
    For the comparative my class is doing Pride and Prejudice, Billy Elliot and Dancing at Lughnasa. Our teacher told us that we have to prepare the key moments for these texts ourselves. I was out of school when the class was reading and discussing Dancing at Lughnasa and I was wondering if someone could upload key moments that they have prepared for Dancing at Lughnasa. I am fine with the key moments for the other two texts and I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out with Dancing at Lughnasa.

    Don't know if there's key moments in this or not http://www.skoool.ie/skoool/examcentre_sc.asp?id=1239


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    Do Oedipus the King- Phenomenal (and short) play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    Do Oedipus the King- Phenomenal (and short) play.

    the one about the guy who ends up marrying his mother?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 jdc123


    Do Oedipus the King- Phenomenal (and short) play.


    I wouldn't go as far as to say it is Phenomenal but it's not bad!
    We're doing Oedipus the King, Billy Elliot and King Lear for the comparative and The Blackwater Lightship by Colm Tobin as our single text.


  • Registered Users Posts: 302 ✭✭Rich1691


    My class is doing Panther in the basment, Billy Elliot and Dancing at lughnasa. The comparative Q can be tricky I'm guessing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    jdc123 wrote: »
    I wouldn't go as far as to say it is Phenomenal but it's not bad!
    We're doing Oedipus the King, Billy Elliot and King Lear for the comparative and The Blackwater Lightship by Colm Tobin as our single text.

    Well I really like it, considering it really is one of the first plays ever recorded. I'm also studying it for Classical studies so for me its a case of two birds with one stone :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 jabn


    Unfortunately my teacher said that I must do Dancing at Lughnasa and that I'm not allowed to do another text so I really need help with the key moments for Dancing at Lughnasa.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    jabn wrote: »
    Unfortunately my teacher said that I must do Dancing at Lughnasa and that I'm not allowed to do another text so I really need help with the key moments for Dancing at Lughnasa.

    Have you read the play? That would be a start. There are no defined key moments in any text. They're just the scenes/sequences that are important and will back up points you make in the comparative. What is your theme?

    Once you've read/seen it, they should jump out at you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭yenoBAYUB


    We're doing King Lear for the single text & Billy Elliot, Panther In The Basement & Dancing at Lughnasa fo compartitive. I dont understand doin Shakespeare for the compartitive, hes too long and complicated, seems like a waste of time to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Niall09


    We're doing Sive, Bookseller of Kabul and Lies of Silence.
    jabn wrote: »
    Unfortunately my teacher said that I must do Dancing at Lughnasa and that I'm not allowed to do another text so I really need help with the key moments for Dancing at Lughnasa.

    There is a book called New English Key Notes by Mentor. http://www.mentorbooks.ie/book.aspx?filter=study&contentid=92

    It has dancing at lughnasa as one of the comparative texts it does in huge detail, outlining key points in all 3 areas. The book also has the all the poetry notes too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭cork*girl


    We are doing Lies of Silence, Il Postino and Playboy of the Western World. We had no say in choosing them..we have finished Lies of Silence and Il Postino but have done no study on them? at all like. We did King Lear aswell..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    cork*girl wrote: »
    We are doing Lies of Silence, Il Postino and Playboy of the Western World. We had no say in choosing them..we have finished Lies of Silence and Il Postino but have done no study on them? at all like. We did King Lear aswell..

    Why would you have a say in choosing them? The teacher/school picks texts that will work together. Maybe your teacher is waiting until the third text is done to start doing comparative notes.

    Lear is probably your single text, that's different.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    We're doing Circle Of Friends by Maeve Binchy, Dancing At Lughnasa and Inside I'm Dancing..

    They actually compare really well together..


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