The Greens are our only hope.

merlynthewizard

The Greens have the country in their hands and are the only party with the power to stop NAMA and bring down this shower we have in charge of the place.
john.gormley@oireachtas.ie needs to know that his party are in no mans land with the Irish people if they don't take this opportunity.

Liam Byrne

Are those the same Greens that explicitly promised not to go into Government with FF, and then.....

Don't hold your breath!

optocynic

merlynthewizard wrote: »

The Greens have the country in their hands and are the only party with the power to stop NAMA and bring down this shower we have in charge of the place.
john.gormley@oireachtas.ie needs to know that his party are in no mans land with the Irish people if they don't take this opportunity.

Princess Leia: Help us John Gormley, you're our only hope!

Nate--IRL--

Mr Gormely is fully signed up to Nama, it's the party members that need to be targeted as it is they that change how Gormless will proceed.

Nate

hellboy99

This is the first and last time the Greens will get into government, you really think Gormely will do the right thing and lose all his perks, I think not, he's as corrupt and useless as FF.

With him not doing the right thing and pulling out of government to allow for a general election just shows him and his party for what they really are.

Nate--IRL--

hellboy99 wrote: »

This is the first and last time the Greens will get into government, you really think Gormely will do the right thing and lose all his perks, I think not, he's as corrupt and useless as FF.

With him not doing the right thing and pulling out of government to allow for a general election just shows him and his party for what they really are.

The green party members have a Vote soon, on Nama and the program for government. The result is binding for Gormley. If the party vote against Nama there is no Nama.

Nate

LostinBlanch

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

The green party members have a Vote soon, on Nama and the program for government. The result is binding for Gormley. If the party vote against Nama there is no Nama.

Nate

Don't hold your breath Nate. This quote from the Sunday Business Post suggests otherwise.

Meanwhile, senior Green figures now suggest that if the revised Programme for Government, which includes the Nama plan, is not passed by a two-thirds majority at the party’s October conference, it will not mean the party has to pull out of government.

One source said the existing programme would stay in place and the party would ‘‘probably go back and look for some amendments to present it again’’. ‘‘That’s the political reality," he said.

This raises the prospect of the Greens not having the authority to proceed with Nama and the new Programme for Government - but not being mandated to leave government either.

In that case, the source suggested, the party could proceed according to the wishes of a simple majority.

If that is the case expect a split in the Greens, and all this is just to keep Gormely and his cabal in their ministerial mercs! He is looking more and more like doing to the Greens what McDowell did to the PDs every day.

Sand

The Greens need not be the only hope - there is always the nuclear option: FG and Labour could declare that when they enter government ( when, not if) they will default on the specific bonds "NAMA" given to the banks. Not pay interest on them, not honour the principal, though they can offer the chance for the banks to exchange their NAMA bonds for the property loans on the same terms as NAMA passed them to the govt.

Such a public announcement would sink NAMA like a stone, regardless of Greens or Fianna Fail ramming it through as the markets would recognise very quickly that Fianna Fail have no mandate and no hope of holding the Dail so they would have to value the NAMA bonds at zero, which would prevent any attempt to exploit them.

Like I said, its the nuclear option: but its an option.

Mr.Micro

The Greens will cling on to power and will see NAMA through IMO. They probably know that if their is a backlash by the electorate it will be them that get it sooner or later. They clearly have opted for the later.