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German Neo-Nazis back NO to Lisbon

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  • 23-09-2009 10:12pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭


    I spent my evening reading up on the upcoming German elections. Decided to to a little research to see if the far right National Democratic Party (NPD) had any policy on the Lisbon treaty.

    It turns out that the latest issue of their latest magazine 'Deutsche Stimme' (German Voices) has an editorial on the upcoming Irish Vote.

    It can be found here in original format, but I have gone to the trouble of translating the article for you.
    EU Referendum in Ireland: Can a centralist federal state be stopped at the last minute.
    10.09.2009 | von Redaktion | Kategorie: Thema der Woche
    A second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty is taking place in Ireland in the beginning of October. Despite a majority of the Irish saying No to the Lisbon Treaty, a further plebiscite has been called following pressure from the EU.

    Whether the EU agreement will be accepted this time is anything but certain.
    According to the latest opinion poll, support for the treaty stands at 46% - well below the necessary 50% mark. The fear in Brussels of a another defeat is subsequently growing with less than month to go to the Irish vote.

    As the only EU state that that decided on the Lisbon Treaty by virtue of a referendum, the decisive Irish No has, up until now, prevented the ratification of a Treaty which involves the significant eroding of national Sovereignty of the EU Member States.

    The current sway in opinion against the treaty in Ireland will revive bad memories in some EU Burocrats. It was just in the last week before the vote in June 2008 the support for the treaty fell. Obviously, it is becoming clearer to more and more Irish the the Lisbon Treaty is a path the towards a central federalized EU superstate.

    Another NO from the Irish is likely to lead to a final collapse of the project. There in no Plan B from the EU Administration.
    Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt – who's country currently holds the rotating EU Council Presidency – said some days ago, following a a meeting with the EU parliament President Jerzy Buzek in Stockholm, about the Irish vote on October 2nd “If if is a No, then we continue as before, wit the Nice treaty as the basis” He envisaged no reason for a “Plan B”.

    In addition to this, a further attack on the treaty is threatened in the Czech Republic . Czech Senators are appealing against the Constitutional Court in Bruno which is further delaying the ratification of the Treaty there.
    For the Brussels body politic, things in relation to the Lisbon Treaty are not running as smoothing as had been originally expected. The developments in both Ireland and also in the Czech Republic, shows just how great the resistance across Europe against the lofty plans of the of a self serving political pseudo-elite is.

    We can but remain hopeful that the Irish realise on Oct 2nd that the sovereignty and self determination of the member states depends upon their No vote. Only they can prevent a federal socialist Superstate.

    For those not familiar with the NPD, they are a Neo Nazi party with strong base in the old East Germany. While they have never won enough votes to get a seat in the national parliament they do have a small number of seats in east German regional parliaments.

    The propose the removal of all the foreigners from Germany and the redrawing of the boundaries of the Bundesrepublik among other things. The recently made headlines for sending threatening letters to all the General election candidates who have migrant backgrounds. They are well known in Germany for organizing rallies and parades in towns and villages using symbolism that is reminiscent of the Nazi era.

    You can see some pictures here:
    http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/images/2212407.jpg
    https://ago.immerda.ch/ago/images/stories/2009/npd.jpg
    http://www.hamburg.de/image/1251686/NPD+Demo+G%25C3%25B6ttingen.jpg

    Its good to know these guys are counting on us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭Hydrosylator


    It's normal for far-right groups to oppose the government on issues the government supports, especially in hard times, in order to win allegiance from lost voters. Whether or not Lisbon is ratified is immaterial to them, they just want to make people think they're on their side.

    Very similar tactics were successfully employed by far-right groups across Europe before the European elections.

    There's nothing in Lisbon that will make life harder for the far right in particular.


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭eamo12


    No voters also eat their own babies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Colpriz


    I agree their tatics are for their own gain, but if like was quoted 'we continue as before' Nice treaty as a basis, then what is all the fuss about??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    This poster was put up by the NPD in areas on the Polsih boarder:

    http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/22901/niemiecka_npd_antypolskie_hasla048_550.jpeg

    The federal constitutional court in Karlsruhe has declared them to the inciting racial hatred and ordered their removal.


    Pity the same oversight could not be provided to our own referendum posters and literature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    Pity the same oversight could not be provided to our own referendum posters and literature.

    yep the UKIP leaflet we all got in the door

    is downright racist in its use of turkey imagery :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    yep the UKIP leaflet we all got in the door

    is downright racist in its use of turkey imagery :(

    'We all' apart from me apparently.

    I don't want Turkey joining the EU (racist old me)

    Anyway...

    In line with the thread topic (oh wait, I forgot that UKIP are meant to be neo-nazis as well! And libertas, and Coir, presumably, as well. And -ahem- Sinn Fein)

    Er... anyway, French Communists are apparently backing Lisbon (see Generation Yes for source).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    'We all' apart from me apparently.
    I don't want Turkey joining the EU (racist old me)
    .

    theres no need to use an image of a turkey when referring to the country Turkey

    not that Turkey has anything to do with Lisbon

    Er... anyway, French Communists are apparently backing Lisbon (see Generation Yes for source).


    Irish Communists are backing the NO side


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    theres no need to use an image of a turkey when referring to the country Turkey

    not that Turkey has anything to do with Lisbon

    [/URL]

    A picture of a turkey being used in a Lisbon referendum. And it's not Dustin? :eek:

    Lisbon removes the current cap on member states.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    A picture of a turkey being used in a Lisbon referendum. And it's not Dustin? :eek:

    Lisbon removes the current cap on member states.
    What current cap would that be?

    Merkel doesn't want any more without a Lisbon ratification but there isn't a cap in place. Either way Turkey won't be in the door any time soon regardless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    A picture of a turkey being used in a Lisbon referendum. And it's not Dustin? :eek:

    Lisbon removes the current cap on member states.

    Sigh its been mentioned over and over Turkey cant join till at least after 2024

    and alot of countries are opposed to them wanting to join

    Once again there was no need to use the imagery UKIP used, its downright racist


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    sceptre wrote: »
    Merkel doesn't want any more without a Lisbon ratification but there isn't a cap in place. Either way Turkey won't be in the door any time soon regardless.

    That true the Germans or Austrians would never sign up to a Treaty if it paved the way for Turkish accsession.

    Furthermore, how likley would it be that Cyprus would support Lisbon if it meant Turkey could join?


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