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Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread
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Just wait till you get to OS a frame trap off a tickthrow safe jump setup.
God I love jargon.
I know what tick throw means. The rest of that might aswell have been in Arabic or something >_<
Doctor DooM wrote: »What can we do to help? Anything in particular?
If you're new to Fighting games, it takes a wee while to get your reaction speed anything near what you need. But you'll get there.
I haven't touched a console (bar Rock Band) since I was about 14 so yes, I'm new to Fighting Games
I'm getting all of Chun Li's moves down but putting them into practice is another story altogether >_< Reaction timing is definitely a problem - my brain decides what to do but by the time it's sent the message to my fingers, it's too late
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Misty Choas wrote: »If your new to fighting games, your really better off starting with Ryu or Ken as they are beginner friendly to get the foundations before you move onto a charge character like Chun.
Not telling you to do that, just the recommended route, play as a Character you like.
I played Ryu this one time.
Chun Li is my bítch now
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I'd agree with Misty in that if you are new to fighting games playing Ryu, not as a main but just to get your ground, is highly recommended. It's totally fine either way but in every SF game Ryu is always very solid and has everything in spades! He has something for all situations and by using him to get going you really get the aspects and fundamentals down. No biggie though
It's just about taking it in steps
Learn your character, an ideal place to start to keep comfortable and which is the pathway towards mid-high level play is to (in my opinion), learn your characters staple BnBs (bread 'n' butter combos), make sure you get them down 90%+. Most are quite simple and will have you exploring combo structure and what makes them work etc. They are vital for punishing and dealing damage
Learn your anti-airs (AAs) ; basically what stops people from jumping at you, whatever it may be. I'm not sure of Chun's moveset in SFIV so I cannot specifically give example, I'm sure her st.Roundshouse is an excellent AA
Mess around with your normals : See what moves can be cancelled/linked to whatever (ties in with the BnB and combos etc). See what moves make good pokes, explore the ranges etc. Playing footsies is what you will be doing most of the time, so find out your optimal range to be at and what you can use at what distances.
I think this is a nice place to start. This is probably the best advice I can give without making it too complicated
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I played Ryu this one time.
Chun Li is my bítch now
>_<
i would advise against chun.
She could be easier than ken and ryu as you can just use NORMAL moves [i.e a simple Hard punch] But her ultra setup's might be slightly harder in some cases than others, specially ultra 1 that wiffs most of the time. She doesnt have any combos, or easy combos. She not very robust at breaking FOCUS attacks either.
all in all, chunli, you wasted my past year.
Ive moved on0 -
I know what tick throw means. The rest of that might aswell have been in Arabic or something >_<
I haven't touched a console (bar Rock Band) since I was about 14 so yes, I'm new to Fighting Games
I'm getting all of Chun Li's moves down but putting them into practice is another story altogether >_< Reaction timing is definitely a problem - my brain decides what to do but by the time it's sent the message to my fingers, it's too late
So much to learn though!
Well, a few things to consider.
1) Charge characters are difficult for new users. If you were playing Ryu or Ken, you can mash out specials anytime. With Chun you need that charge.
This is initially a pain in the ass but it'll make you better at planning long term (you'll get into the habit of charging all the time when you jump or get knocked down, etc.)
2) Practice those specials til they become muscle memory. I don't think "down up kick" I think FLASH KICK! and the hands just do it.
3) Start thinking about what players do and what you should do.
If I see someone walking towards me as Chun, and I decide to poke, I alternate between crouchiing hard kick, crouching medium punch and Hazan shu (half circle back and kick).
The hard kick will hit low, and needs to be blocked low. The hazan shu hits high and cannot be blocked low. So I force them to guess.
But the important thing is I have things I know I can do in this specific situation.
If I see someone jumping, I know an ex spinning Bird Kick is a good choice. If I don't have charge or EX, I know there's a couple of moves at different ranges I can do (standing hard punch, down forward light kick) which are really good to knock people out of the air.
It's all about learning the right thing to do at the right time.0 -
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Doctor DooM wrote: »Well, a few things to consider.
1) Charge characters are difficult for new users. If you were playing Ryu or Ken, you can mash out specials anytime. With Chun you need that charge.
This is initially a pain in the ass but it'll make you better at planning long term (you'll get into the habit of charging all the time when you jump or get knocked down, etc.)
2) Practice those specials til they become muscle memory. I don't think "down up kick" I think FLASH KICK! and the hands just do it.
3) Start thinking about what players do and what you should do.
If I see someone walking towards me as Chun, and I decide to poke, I alternate between crouchiing hard kick, crouching medium punch and Hazan shu (half circle back and kick).
The hard kick will hit low, and needs to be blocked low. The hazan shu hits high and cannot be blocked low. So I force them to guess.
But the important thing is I have things I know I can do in this specific situation.
If I see someone jumping, I know an ex spinning Bird Kick is a good choice. If I don't have charge or EX, I know there's a couple of moves at different ranges I can do (standing hard punch, down forward light kick) which are really good to knock people out of the air.
It's all about learning the right thing to do at the right time.
Just takes awhile to get used to all this stuff I understand the charge character thing, I don't find it to bad tbh - I guess I'm not used to anything else anyway.
Sure I'm still learning what people even do in the game and how I should react to that >.<
But hey, I'm having fun (eh, mostly...) so far anywayHere's the best way to get good: whatever d4rk onion tells you to do, do the opposite
I hear that's a good strategy alright 0 -
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