Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

Dreddybajs · 25-12-2009 10:13pm

Placebo wrote: »

dudley was an alternative for balrog.
as remy was for guile.

makes no sense having him in a game where balrog already exists.

dudley is in absolutely no way like dudley except for being a black boxer character. moveset and playstyle is almost as different to balrog as you could get without being a projectile character.

Ken B · 25-12-2009 10:26pm

Dreddybajs wrote: »

dudley is in absolutely no way like dudley except for being a black boxer character. moveset and playstyle is almost as different to balrog as you could get without being a projectile character.

Is Dudley black? I always thought he was like one of those great white hunters from Africa in the 19th/early 20th century. Dark, tanned and swarthy like Errol Flynn(whom he was obviously modelled on). He has pale blue eyes which would definitely back my theory up. My ex-girlfriend was convinced of this too...
Elena(best SF gal IMO)on the other hand.....

Dreddybajs · 25-12-2009 10:34pm

Ken B wrote: »

Is Dudley black? I always thought he was like one of those great white hunters from Africa in the 19th/early 20th century. Dark, tanned and swarthy like Errol Flynn(whom he was obviously modelled on). He has pale blue eyes which would definitely back my theory up. My ex-girlfriend was convinced of this too...
Elena(best SF gal IMO)on the other hand.....

I just figured he was mixed race or something... honestly, it's a Japanese fighting game, I don't think they're capable of designing a boxer character who's not black. :pac:Dark-skinned was what I meant anyway, not African.

Placebo · 25-12-2009 10:36pm

when did i even say he was like balrog? i said an alternative.

just dont see the need when they could have had makoto, yun, oro, necro, urien

Dreddybajs · 25-12-2009 10:47pm

Placebo wrote: »

when did i even say he was like balrog? i said an alternative.

just dont see the need when they could have had makoto, yun, oro, necro, urien

What do you mean by an alternative then?

Out of those characters (and the rumour is that Makoto will be in anyway, right?) I'm pretty surely Dudley would easily top a popularity poll from fans.

And honestly, I love Urien in 3S, but I don't think he'd work in SF4 - all his fun tricks come from charge partitioning, unblockables, and crazy aegis reflector shenangians (which if they left in in a similar form...can't see how it wouldn't completely break the game - parrying just about stopped it from being completely broken in 3S).

I'd love to see all the characters you posted in the game, mind.

Ramza · 25-12-2009 10:50pm

Dud is of mixed race. But on note with what Placebo said, when you say alternative you mean a pseudo-replacement, I take it? As in Remy - Guile, similar looking moves, same inputs (bar Remy has a kick/low sonic boom/Light of Virtue). And I know there's some of the cast in SF3 which represent SF2 characters, (Necro - Sim, Hugo - Gief, Remy - Guile) and some which don't But saying Dud is an alternative for Boxer still isn't really true. Apart from the fact he is a boxer, and is black/dark skinned. Other than that, nothing similar at all

Back on topic

Gutter Trash! *throws rose*

K.O.Kiki · 25-12-2009 11:18pm

Seth is an inferior clone of his big bro

Abel :pac:

Ramza · 25-12-2009 11:36pm

Dreddybajs wrote: »

And honestly, I love Urien in 3S, but I don't think he'd work in SF4 - all his fun tricks come from charge partitioning, unblockables, and crazy aegis reflector shenangians (which if they left in in a similar form...can't see how it wouldn't completely break the game - parrying just about stopped it from being completely broken in 3S)

I was thinking about that myself, how in SF4 the Aegis Unblockable would be total bs. I guess everything but the UB would be ok. Maybe some new ****, I'm too lazy to think right now :P

Cunny-Funt · 26-12-2009 2:24am

Placebo wrote: »

when did i even say he was like balrog? i said an alternative.

just dont see the need when they could have had makoto, yun, oro, necro, urien

Dudley is massively popular and people have been dying for a balrog v dudley match for years. Also I thought makoto was gonna be in it too?

Ramza wrote: »

Dud is of mixed race.

Yeah he's meant to be half Indian or Pakistani mixed with English. So he's not really even meant to be 'black' per say.

Cunny-Funt · 26-12-2009 11:29am

He meant alternative as in adding a boxing character to a street fighter game, rather then how he plays. Placebo, like me, was a big 3rd strike player online before SF4 came out, he knows dudleys inputs etc.

chopperbyrne · 26-12-2009 12:39pm

He may not have been an alternative in 3S, but he will be in SSFIV if he's included as it'll be a boxer character for people who don't like using charge characters.

Ramza · 26-12-2009 5:41pm

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Placebo, like me, was a big 3rd strike player online before SF4 came out, he knows dudleys inputs etc.

*Ahem* :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Qv92yO8r8

Ken B · 27-12-2009 11:45pm

I would gladly trade all the characters in for Urien(with his Tyrant Slaughter as his Ultra).....

Dreddybajs · 02-01-2010 9:03pm

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animaX · 02-01-2010 9:40pm

Dreddybajs wrote: »

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Imagine getting your hands on super for the first time and playing a ken mirror :rolleyes:

Doctor DooM · 02-01-2010 9:45pm

animaX wrote: »

Imagine getting your hands on super for the first time and playing a ken mirror :rolleyes:

So you won't be picking Sagat, yeah?

animaX · 02-01-2010 10:04pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

So you won't be picking Sagat, yeah?

haha. I actually played alpha 3 last week for the first time in a long time and I have to say, I really like Adon. Lets hope he has some nice ultra setups!

Xluna · 02-01-2010 11:31pm

They better put Makoto in it. She was the only well designed character from SFIII. The rest looked like they belonged in a Marvel game or a gay pride parade.

Dreddybajs · 02-01-2010 11:56pm

Xluna wrote: »

They better put Makoto in it. She was the only well designed character from SFIII. The rest looked like they belonged in a Marvel game or a gay pride parade.

this post is terrible imo

Doctor DooM · 03-01-2010 12:16am

Dreddybajs wrote: »

this post is terrible imo

Alot of people don't like the design aesthetic in the SF3 series.

Xluna · 03-01-2010 12:23am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Alot of people don't like the design aesthetic in the SF3 series.

I liked the backgrounds but thought most of the new characters were designed for different games and just got lost in a street fighter game. I mean a one hundred year old one armed mummy,a frankenstein,an alien,a Jesus wannabe working for the illuminati and Remy-who looks like one of those uninspired KOF male characters-who all look like clones of each other.:rolleyes:

Dreddybajs · 03-01-2010 12:30am

Xluna wrote: »

I liked the backgrounds but thought most of the new characters were designed for different games and just got lost in a street fighter game. I mean a one hundred year old one armed mummy,a frankenstein,an alien,a Jesus wannabe working for the illuminati and Remy-who looks like one of those uninspired KOF male characters-who all look like clones of each other.:rolleyes:

A Street Fighter game...with a stretchy Indian Yogi, a Brazilian jungle beast-man, a Jamaican whose grin takes up 50% of his face, a narcissistic matador, and various racist stereotypes. Yeah, how could they screw up that that cohesive a lineup? :pac:

edit: remy is terrible though

Doctor DooM · 03-01-2010 12:31am

Personally I never minded the aesthetic myself. It's a different series to alpha and 2, and it's a product of it's time. I do believe the 3S characters we've seen chosen for 4 are the ones which fit THAT games art style the most, just from looking at them.

I do wonder about people who go on about the fantastical nature of the £s characters though- Ryu is able to shoot flame from his fists, lest we forget, even if he just looks like some guy.

Xluna · 03-01-2010 12:41am

Dreddybajs wrote: »

A Street Fighter game...with a stretchy Indian Yogi, a Brazilian jungle beast-man, a Jamaican whose grin takes up 50% of his face, a narcissistic matador, and various racist stereotypes. Yeah, how could they screw up that that cohesive a lineup? :pac:

edit: remy is terrible though

Well if you ever seen a movie called Master of the flying guillotine,starring Jimmy Wang Yu, you'll know where the inspiration for Dhalsim came from. How are they "racist stereotypes".

They do tend to embody their nations culture but to call it racist sounds a bit over the top.

Ken B · 03-01-2010 12:42am

Dudley, Urien, Hugo, Alex and Elena......5 brilliant characters, unsurpassed 2d animation, fantastic backgrounds(in the first two iterations at least)and perfect gameplay. What's not to love about SF3??

Xluna · 03-01-2010 12:46am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I do wonder about people who go on about the fantastical nature of the £s characters though- Ryu is able to shoot flame from his fists, lest we forget, even if he just looks like some guy.

True but at least it's loosley based on an exagerated form of ki energy,a purported martial arts technique.It's only visiable to the player for gameplay purposes and levitation is cited as one of the "miracles of Yoga", which only fakirs can use-allegedly.

Doctor DooM · 03-01-2010 12:47am

Xluna wrote: »

Well if you ever seen a movie called Master of the flying guillotine,starring Jimmy Wang Yu, you'll know where the inspiration for Dhalsim came from. How are they "racist stereotypes". They do tend to embody their nations culture but to call it racist sounds a bit over the top.

Ah come on now.

A jamaican who's all about the rythm, mon.

A native american called Hawk.

a wandering japanese warrior.

a hardcore american revenge driven soldier.

a japanese sumo wrestler.

a cute girl who is quick but does no damage.

a fire breathing indian yogi.

an arrogant rich american.

The russian defending the honour of communism.

A disgraced black american boxer named bison

A spanish matador

Doctor DooM · 03-01-2010 12:48am

Xluna wrote: »

True but at least it's loosley based on an exagerated form of ki energy,a purported martial arts technique.It's only visiable to the player for gameplay purposes.

Doesn't explain the sonic boom.

Doctor DooM · 03-01-2010 12:49am

Ken B wrote: »

Dudley, Urien, Hugo, Alex and Elena......5 brilliant characters, unsurpassed 2d animation, fantastic backgrounds(in the first two iterations at least)and perfect gameplay. What's not to love about SF3??

Have to say I think Hugo looks worse than Remy.

I won't argue about the animation or the gameplay. He just looks cack to me.

The rest I totally agree with.

Except for gameplay, I still have only played 3s like 4 times and that was in tournaments

Xluna · 03-01-2010 12:50am

Ken B wrote: »

Dudley, Urien, Hugo, Alex and Elena......5 brilliant characters, unsurpassed 2d animation, fantastic backgrounds(in the first two iterations at least)and perfect gameplay. What's not to love about SF3??

Half of the cast. I did'nt like the rap/techno soundtrack either.:cool:

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