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Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

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    #842
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Doesn't explain the sonic boom. :)

    Too many vindaloos.:cool:


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    #843
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Ah come on now.

    A jamaican who's all about the rythm, mon.

    A native american called Hawk.

    a wandering japanese warrior.

    a hardcore american revenge driven soldier.

    a japanese sumo wrestler.

    a cute girl who is quick but does no damage.

    a fire breathing indian yogi.

    an arrogant rich american.

    The russian defending the honour of communism.

    A disgraced black american boxer named bison

    A spanish matador

    All I can say is there's truth in stereotypes.:P Personally I don't consider stereotypes such as these to be racists. I mean, stereotypes don't create themselves at the end of the day.


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    #844
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Yeah half of Mexico was named Thunder Hawk at some stage I'm sure :pac:


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    #845
    Orim
    Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    I want to put a stop to these heinous lies.

    Vega is not a matador.

    Other then that I have to agree Xluna. I hated the design of the SF3 games. The mechanics, the stages and the characters. I didn't like any of it.


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    #846
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    HMUYA wrote: »
    I want to put a stop to these heinous lies.

    Vega is not a matador.

    Other then that I have to agree Xluna. I hated the design of the SF3 games. The mechanics, the stages and the characters. I didn't like any of it.

    "Vega wears purple and yellow ceremonial trousers, a red sash, loafers, and white leggings of a matador, suggesting his involvement with bullfighting. This decorative garb also offers matadors ease of movement, and is ideal for Vega's acrobatic maneuvers."

    he is obviously a matador!

    edit: and if that's not his job then that just provides more proof that it's a racist stereotype that he dresses like one! :pac:


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    #847
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Xluna wrote: »
    All I can say is there's truth in stereotypes.:P Personally I don't consider stereotypes such as these to be racists. I mean, stereotypes don't create themselves at the end of the day.

    We'll have to agree to disagree, as to be honest I cannot see how an evil black american boxer given a name and appearance similar to mike tyson can be seen as anything BUT racist, nor Ken's arrogant attitude.

    Still, the point remains- SF2 designs aren't the incredibly amazing things they are held up to be. They're great, but they're of their time. Personally I consider the 3S designs in a similar way but alot of people disagree.

    Thats fine because it's all just opinion.


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    #848
    Cunny-Funt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Cunny-Funt


    Xluna wrote: »
    They better put Makoto in it. She was the only well designed character from SFIII. The rest looked like they belonged in a Marvel game or a gay pride parade.

    Pssh but she had man hands! Nah I do like the character, rather ibuki though :p
    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree, as to be honest I cannot see how an evil black american boxer given a name and appearance similar to mike tyson can be seen as anything BUT racist, nor Ken's arrogant attitude.

    Racist? Would that not mean fei long is racist, since he looks and fights like bruce lee?

    Tyson was a famous american fighter, so capcom made a character like him, fei long was a famous Chinese fighter etc etc. .

    Racist is a pretty strong word.

    There's a large african american community in the american street fighter scene and I have read posts by some who have expressed a desire to have a black character thats not a big boxer or whatever etc. I actually think Sean is a good character and I'd love to see him in SF4, but in terms of racism, I remember reading complaints of the alpha character Birdie. Due to the way he was drawn (big lips etc) I don't think rog is viewed as being racist.


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    #849
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    I thought some of you guys were wrestling fans? How could you no like Alex or Hugo - they were Capcom's homages to Hulk Hogan & Andre the Giant! :eek:

    And of course Makoto has "man hands", she's a true tomboy (unlike Sakura). And a frigging sadist to boot - girl LOVES inflicting pain!
    ... love her! :D


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    #850
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,277 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Have to say I think Hugo looks worse than Remy.

    I won't argue about the animation or the gameplay. He just looks cack to me.

    Do you not remember Hugo from Final Fight? Thats where they got his design from as well as Poison who runs on after and before rounds.

    As for Street Fighter 3 was it not meant to have nothing to do with the street fighter universe when it started out? I think when it became SF3 the fan outcry forced them to add Ryu and Ken, there was supposed to be no returning characters.
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    #851
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Don't hate 3S because its beautiful.

    :cool:


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    #852
    Ramza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    "Vega wears purple and yellow ceremonial trousers, a red sash, loafers, and white leggings of a matador, suggesting his involvement with bullfighting. This decorative garb also offers matadors ease of movement, and is ideal for Vega's acrobatic maneuvers."

    Maybe he likes to roleplay ;)

    xD


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    #853
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Vega: he'll make you squeal like a young bull.

    Curse my perverted imagination! It's all because of the Internet!


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    #854
    FoamyMushroom
    Registered Users Posts: 599 ✭✭✭FoamyMushroom


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Vega: he'll make you squeal like a young bull.

    Curse my perverted imagination! It's all because of the Internet!

    Meh im worse I can make some pretty filthy innuendos when sagat says tiger knee, shot, etc etc...

    :D


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    #855
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree, as to be honest I cannot see how an evil black american boxer given a name and appearance similar to mike tyson can be seen as anything BUT racist, nor Ken's arrogant attitude.

    I don't think the Bison Tyson link was racist. Tyson was the biggest thing ever in boxing when SF first came out and SF was'nt well know,especially after the mediocrity that was SF 1. So Capcom probably just wanted to popularise they game by basing one of the characters on the biggest name in unarmed combat at the time-who happened to be a not very nice black American boxer. I mean video games rip off Bruce Lee all the time. It just happens that Lee was a more respectable person than Tyson.

    As for Kens arrogant attitude. It's meant to contrast against Ryu,you can see it in their fighting styles. And sure it's a sterotype but it comes from somewhere. Japan is a group orientated society while America is an individualist orientated society.


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    #856
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Do you not remember Hugo from Final Fight? Thats where they got his design from as well as Poison who runs on after and before rounds.

    As for Street Fighter 3 was it not meant to have nothing to do with the street fighter universe when it started out? I think when it became SF3 the fan outcry forced them to add Ryu and Ken, there was supposed to be no returning characters.

    It was part of the SF universe,which includes Final Fight ( Please add Poison as an SSIV character capcom.),but SF III was originally intended not to have any SF2 characters as you said. Sean was suppossed to be the new Shotokan fighter.


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    #857
    Orim
    Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Xluna wrote: »
    ( Please add Poison as an SSIV character capcom.)

    I don't want to imagine the pictures Kiki would post if they added Poison!


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    #858
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    HMUYA wrote: »
    I don't want to imagine the pictures Kiki would post if they added Poison!

    She already had the operation according to Capcom.Video game characters have an in depth personal life in between sequels.


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    #859
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Maybe racist is too strong a word, but the SF2 designs are still extremely lazy racial stereotypes.


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    #860
    animaX
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Cunny-Funt wrote: »
    Pssh but she had man hands!
    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    And of course Makoto has "man hands"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSL4cmFW_GU


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    #861
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users Posts: 10,995 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Ken B wrote: »
    Dudley, Urien, Hugo, Alex and Elena......5 brilliant characters, unsurpassed 2d animation, fantastic backgrounds(in the first two iterations at least)and perfect gameplay. What's not to love about SF3??

    Garou: Mark of the Wolves says hello. ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSMFoylU1c


    I like the 3S cast and always thought it was silly when people said Oro, Necro and Twelve didn't belong in a Street Fighter game, but would defend Blanka and Dhalsim.


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    #862
    Ken B
    Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Ken B


    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    Garou: Mark of the Wolves says hello. ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSMFoylU1c


    I like the 3S cast and always thought it was silly when people said Oro, Necro and Twelve didn't belong in a Street Fighter game, but would defend Blanka and Dhalsim.
    Chopper, I llike Garou a lot, I had the emulation and have been meaning to pick it up for XBL....but the animation is no way as good as SFIII. The charcters in III have such weight and volume that they practically fall through the screen. (I have a HDIP ballyfermot/dun laoighaire in classical animation and have industry experience and could probably prove what I'm saying....!!!).


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    #863
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users Posts: 10,995 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    But it was done on ancient Neo Geo hardware, not that fancy new CPS3 stuff!


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    #864
    Ken B
    Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Ken B


    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    But it was done on ancient Neo Geo hardware, not that fancy new CPS3 stuff!
    True.....
    But on another (related) note: Oro and Necro are utterly adorable!!!:)


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    #865
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Ahhh, MOTW was pretty awesome, shame the 360 one seems rather half-assed and I've heard the netcode is woeful.

    Game had the most insanely strict-ass controls ever though, always fluffed my inputs.

    Getting somewhat off topic it seems... uhhh... well I hope SSF4 is at least half as good as the games we've been talking about. :D


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    #866
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Ken B wrote: »
    True.....
    But on another (related) note: Oro and Necro are utterly adorable!!!:)
    Necro is who I'm playing with, I love him! OUTTA MY WAY! Always makes me laugh


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    #867
    Ken B
    Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Ken B


    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    Necro is who I'm playing with, I love him! OUTTA MY WAY! Always makes me laugh
    Do you have anniversary addition for the Xbox? If you do, I'd love to play some games. Add me and hit me up! And prepare for (quite literally) a tongue lashing!!!


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    #868
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Ken B wrote: »
    Do you have anniversary addition for the Xbox? If you do, I'd love to play some games. Add me and hit me up! And prepare for (quite literally) a tongue lashing!!!
    HA, even if I was in any way able to play the game (which I can not), I'm emulating it on my laptop, it's CPS3, the arcade version.


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    #869
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    HMUYA wrote: »
    I don't want to imagine the pictures Kiki would post if they added Poison!
    I'd most likely get banned if I dug into my poison folder :pac:

    *edit* Holy crap Garou! I wonder if I still know how to even play that game...


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    #870
    animaX
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Confirmed: guile has a much improved flash kick

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5hAo84-nSI


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    #871
    Ramza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    Ken B wrote: »
    Do you have anniversary addition for the Xbox? If you do, I'd love to play some games. Add me and hit me up! And prepare for (quite literally) a tongue lashing!!!

    Yo hit me up we can play!


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