New Low For Cork City FC (mod note #27)

Roar

i heard he'll be talking to Declan Kidney, Eddie O'Sullivan and Sonia O'Sullivan about the job.

D2D

Roar wrote: »

i heard he'll be talking to Declan Kidney, Eddie O'Sullivan and Sonia O'Sullivan about the job.

With Tommy's mind-set (signing Andy Cole??) , anything's possible with him

getcover

gimmick wrote: »

Mutual agreement. I would imagine he would not want to work on the budget offered to him.

Are you 100% certain of this?

gimmick

Yup. 100%

Pure Cork

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Looked at http://www.corkcityfc.ie/ for a club statement - No news on it or anything whatsoever although we have the colour blue to look at.

This is what happens when you don't pay the award-winning web designer/webmaster who is a fan of the club.

getcover

gimmick wrote: »

Yup. 100%

Looks like it alright. Thankfully there will not be a Court case out of this so.

Pure Cork

In yesterdays Echo, Farrelly was linked with the managers job.

In todays Echo, Farrelly still hasn't received the €36000 he was awarded for unfair dismissal, and he will be relaunching the winding up order. EDIT: He has ruled himself out of the running for the managers job, for those of you who were wondering.

pablomakaveli

Pure Cork wrote: »

In yesterdays Echo, Farrelly was linked with the managers job.

In todays Echo, Farrelly still hasn't received the €36000 he was awarded for unfair dismissal, and he will be relaunching the winding up order. EDIT: He has ruled himself out of the running for the managers job, for those of you who were wondering.

I knew when i heard that Coughlan was going to pay Farrelly his money in installments that he'd be screwed over again. People should never take installments from Tom because he never seems to pay the installments.

No doubt he'll probably blame it on a clerical error.

_blank_

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/farrelly-seeks-second-cork-court-order-1962312.html

Gareth Farrelly has applied for a second winding-up order of Cork City after the money he was owed under the terms of a previous out-of-court settlement was not paid by the deadline of last Monday.

The former Ireland international, who had been owed €36,000 in wages from the Leeside outfit, confirmed yesterday that he has applied to the courts for a winding-up hearing through his solicitor.

He has also informed the FAI licensing committee, through the PFAI, that he is still owed money by the club.

"We are operating in very difficult financial times now, but this will be sorted," a Cork spokesperson is quoted as saying yesterday, while chairman Tom Coughlan was unavailable for comment last night.

The PFAI has also written to the FAI to inform them that three other former Cork players, Colin Healy, Darren Murphy and Pat Sullivan, are still due money from the troubled club.

D2D

Des wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/farrelly-seeks-second-cork-court-order-1962312.html

Thanks Des for the link.

Coughlan wasn't available for comment. What. a. surprise

As much as I love City, I'm not sure whether we should just start again instead of continuing with TNB still involved constantly owing money

chopperbyrne

Does Coughlan still owe money to the Revenue too?

D2D

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Does Coughlan still owe money to the Revenue too?

I'm not sure about that but Hopefully not.

Pure Cork

To quote the City forum:

No manager
No stadium (rumoured)
No training ground
No contracted players (all free agents as they were not paid)
No club shop
No online shop
No website and by extension no email
Licence application incomplete and returned
Disrepute charge outstanding against the owner
1 active winding up order
3 court cases (Mathews, Curran, GSC)
Current staff and players owed money
Former staff and players owed money
Creditors owed money
Future prize money gone

The Echo has also clarified the situation regarding the club website:

Meanwhile, Declan Carey has asked us to point out that the reason that the Cork City website was taken down was that despite repeated requests for payment from Cork City Football club he has not been paid by the club for work done on the website in the past five months. Tom Coughlan was unavailable for comment today.

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Does Coughlan still owe money to the Revenue too?

What do you think?

D2D

Pure Cork wrote: »

To quote the City forum:

Nice 1, Pure Cork for that

Wow:eek::eek: I knew it was back but not like that

TNB has effectivly ruined the club and refuses to acknowlege it.

D2D

On the back page of the Echo tonight, it appears a group of investers are prepared to buy the club for 180-200K. It says that they promise to pay off all debts.

Guess what, TNB rejected the 1st offer.:mad::( TNB is also in court on a charge of bringing the game into disrepute. His case has been postponed for a week

pablomakaveli

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

On the back page of the Echo tonight, it appears a group of investers are prepared to buy the club for 180-200K. It says that they promise to pay off all debts.

Guess what, TNB rejected the 1st offer.:mad::( TNB is also in court on a charge of bringing the game into disrepute. His case has been postponed for a week

I think 200k is a generous offer and Tom does'nt deserve it either. I honestly think he'd rather run the club into the ground than admit defeat and sell up.

Pure Cork

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

His case has been postponed for a week

This was originally postponed at Tommy's request for today. Now, it seems that it will be postponed until Wednesday or Thursday or whenever.

pablomakaveli

Pure Cork wrote: »

This was originally postponed at Tommy's request for today. Now, it seems that it will be postponed until Wednesday or Thursday or whenever.

Could mean he's going to sell the club and the FAI have given him a few extra days to do it.

Pure Cork

Tommy and Roddy are meeting tonight.....

What a joke of a club. What a joke of a league.

gimmick

Won't matter a damn if Tommy does not clear the outstanding wages by Friday. If he doesn't, no license. End of story.

Gavin "shels"

Roddy, hahahaha.:D

fh041205

gimmick wrote: »

Won't matter a damn if Tommy does not clear the outstanding wages by Friday. If he doesn't, no license. End of story.

Is that former players wages you're referring to? I was under the impression that the players (although they are out of contract) currently at the club had been fully paid up.

Pure Cork

gimmick wrote: »

Won't matter a damn if Tommy does not clear the outstanding wages by Friday. If he doesn't, no license. End of story.

Yeah, all wages and associated taxes paid in full or have agreements in place.

Pure Cork

fh041205 wrote: »

Is that former players wages you're referring to? I was under the impression that the players (although they are out of contract) currently at the club had been fully paid up.

Current and former players and staff.

Pure Cork

Gamble is on trial with Hartlepool. At least Tommy won't get a fee because his contract was broken.

fh041205

Pure Cork wrote: »

Current and former players and staff.

Did CCFC miss another months payment? I wouldn't be surprised if he wormed out of this one. I don't like the idea of having an agreement to pay money back.

And why did ye ever get a fee for Kevin Long? I think thats who it was anyway.

Pure Cork

fh041205 wrote: »

Did CCFC miss another months payment? I wouldn't be surprised if he wormed out of this one. I don't like the idea of having an agreement to pay money back.

And why did ye ever get a fee for Kevin Long? I think thats who it was anyway.

I've lost track of current players and staff to be honest. But if they are owed money then either paid in full or have an agreement in place. If they have been paid according to schedule then there isn't a problem. Gamble is a free agent, yet he signed a 3 year contract during the 2008 season.

We got a fee for Long presumably because whoever signed him would've had to pay compensation if they didn't pay a fee.

fh041205

I thought all the players were free to leave because of breeches of contract. Six figures is a lot to spend when you mightn't need to, even for Burnley. Just struck me as strange when Gamble and the rest can leave for nothing. They shouldn't have to pay a fee because Long was effectively a free agent. Interesting none-the-less.

Pure Cork

fh041205 wrote: »

I thought all the players were free to leave because of breeches of contract. Six figures is a lot to spend when you mightn't need to, even for Burnley. Just struck me as strange when Gamble and the rest can leave for nothing. They shouldn't have to pay a fee because Long was effectively a free agent. Interesting none-the-less.

As far as I know, since he's under 24, if the two clubs couldn't reach an agreement on a suitable compensation package, the fee would be decided by a tribunal.

CantGetNoSleep

Pure Cork wrote: »

This was originally postponed at Tommy's request for today. Now, it seems that it will be postponed until Wednesday or Thursday or whenever.

He probably doesn't have the money for a train to Dublin

fh041205

Pure Cork wrote: »

As far as I know, since he's under 24, if the two clubs couldn't reach an agreement on a suitable compensation package, the fee would be decided by a tribunal.

Yea you're right about that, the Bosman rule. However, he could simply leave the club, citing breach of contract, and sign as a free agent.

pablomakaveli

As far as i know Tom has'nt paid up backroom staff and the staff at the club shop which will affect the licence application if he does'nt pay up.

getcover

Few people on this thread seem to be in the know, so any comment on what I heard today, that Tommy's days are numbered?
I'll believe it when I see it, but heard a rumour that he won't or can't fulfill the licence requirements, so will either sell or else will bring the club down with him...
Don't know whether to laugh or cry...:o

D2D

getcover wrote: »

Few people on this thread seem to be in the know, so any comment on what I heard today, that Tommy's days are numbered?
I'll believe it when I see it, but heard a rumour that he won't or can't fulfill the licence requirements, so will either sell or else will bring the club down with him...
Don't know whether to laugh or cry...:o

I believe he has until Thursday to get this all sorted out.

In the Echo, it named 3 potential managers for City: Roddy Collins, Stephen Kenny and Stephen Henderson. TNB has had meetings with all 3. I heard that Gamble will be sold in the January transfer window to Hartlepool and that a good number of players will be leaving as City can't afford their wages. Realistically, the club hasn't a very good chance of surviving.

gimmick

Tommy Boy has asked players & staff etc to agree to yet another deferral of pay. More fool them if they agree to it. The deadline is Friday. I hope the FAI just pull the plug at this stage.

RIP CCFC. As long as Tommy is around, the club is dead to me. Its just the fact that I have 2 good buddies working for the fúcker is the only reason I am keeping abreast of goings ons.

dreamers75

Roddy has left Floriana

Pure Cork

gimmick wrote: »

Tommy Boy has asked players & staff etc to agree to yet another deferral of pay. More fool them if they agree to it. The deadline is Friday. I hope the FAI just pull the plug at this stage.

RIP CCFC. As long as Tommy is around, the club is dead to me. Its just the fact that I have 2 good buddies working for the fúcker is the only reason I am keeping abreast of goings ons.

Yeah, the general consensus seems to be to boycott the club if he gets a licence.

gimmick

Ya, they said that, but no doubt the good fanboys and girls in FORAGE will be there come March as most have no life outside CCFC anyway.

RebelRockChick

Atleast FORAS are trying to do something to help the club (applying for an A-championship license etc.), even if the club is still around with TNB at the helm next season, they will more than likely be around....and have a life!

But anyways, hopefully something good will come out of TNB's meeting with the FAI tomorrow, but i'm not holding my breath.

Pure Cork

RebelRockChick wrote: »

But anyways, hopefully something good will come out of TNB's meeting with the FAI tomorrow, but i'm not holding my breath.

Hopefully City will be thrown out of the league come Monday.

gimmick

FORAGE are paying lip service. far too many egos involved for them to make any sort of impact. They have 350ish members, many of whom have no plans on re joining due to the incompetence of them at board level.

applehunter

gimmick wrote: »

FORAGE are paying lip service. far too many egos involved for them to make any sort of impact. They have 350ish members, many of whom have no plans on re joining due to the incompetence of them at board level.

Who's incompetent?

Give us a name?

celticbest

It seems to me that the League of Ireland is turning into the Dublin and surrounds league,

Bohemians, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, St Patrick's Athletic, Sporting Fingal, UCD

All these clubs are within a short distance of each other, Rovers to Dundalk can be done in about 1hour outside rush hour.

Galway Utd, Sligo Rovers & possibly Cork it they can sort things out.

Something needs to be done to spread the league out a bit more evenly around the country or it will be finished in the next few years.

gimmick

applehunter wrote: »

Who's incompetent?

Give us a name?

Of course I am not going to name someone on a public forum to somebody i do not even know.

Pure Cork

gimmick wrote: »

FORAGE are paying lip service. far too many egos involved for them to make any sort of impact. They have 350ish members, many of whom have no plans on re joining due to the incompetence of them at board level.

People have to pull in the same direction. If City hit the wall, FORAS will be the ones stepping in to pick up the pieces. If someone has a problem with any of the board members, they aren't set in stone forever. I'm happy with the job they've done so far.

celticbest wrote: »

It seems to me that the League of Ireland is turning into the Dublin and surrounds league,

Bohemians, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, St Patrick's Athletic, Sporting Fingal, UCD

All these clubs are within a short distance of each other, Rovers to Dundalk can be done in about 1hour outside rush hour.

Galway Utd, Sligo Rovers & possibly Cork it they can sort things out.

Something needs to be done to spread the league out a bit more evenly around the country or it will be finished in the next few years.

League of the Pale. Of course people from those clubs don't seem to have any problem with it.

applehunter

gimmick wrote: »

Of course I am not going to name someone on a public forum to somebody i do not even know.

I forgot.

Sweeping broadsides are what you do best.

celticbest

Pure Cork wrote: »

League of the Pale. Of course people from those clubs don't seem to have any problem with it.

Of course these clubs are happy, they are were they want to be - The Premier League.

It's up to the League to sort out the misrepresentation that we currently have around the "Pale".

Zebra3

celticbest wrote: »

It seems to me that the League of Ireland is turning into the Dublin and surrounds league,

Bohemians, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, St Patrick's Athletic, Sporting Fingal, UCD

All these clubs are within a short distance of each other, Rovers to Dundalk can be done in about 1hour outside rush hour.

Galway Utd, Sligo Rovers & possibly Cork it they can sort things out.

Something needs to be done to spread the league out a bit more evenly around the country or it will be finished in the next few years.

There are loads of clubs from outside Dublin in the League of Ireland. :rolleyes:

Pure Cork wrote: »

League of the Pale. Of course people from those clubs don't seem to have any problem with it.

Why should they worry about it? The state of the current Cork and Limerick franchises (and Derry) are hardly their fault....

celticbest wrote: »

Of course these clubs are happy, they are were they want to be - The Premier League.

No Premier League in this country. You seem confused with England.

celticbest wrote: »

It's up to the League to sort out the misrepresentation that we currently have around the "Pale".

Why should they? It's up to clubs outside the Greater Dublin area to get their act together.

stovelid

celticbest wrote: »

Something needs to be done to spread the league out a bit more evenly around the country or it will be finished in the next few years.

My idea is admittedly revolutionary but it involves more clubs from outside Dublin being good enough to get promoted to the Premier Division.

Complex I know, but there you go.

Fuhrer

Maybe they should just give teams a points bonus the further the are away from dublin, that would be great now wouldnt it?