New Low For Cork City FC (mod note #27)

pablomakaveli

Fran Gavin advised Tom to step down yesterday but Tom will probably just sign the company over to his wife or brother and carry on pulling the strings.

Quint

I really think Tom Coughlan is trying to wind up City fans. What the hell is he at? Deciding to leave before his meeting with the FAI? I think getting the most hated man in Irish football as manager is another kick in the balls of the City fan.
Roddy saying "managing cork is the biggest job in irish football" makes me puke. What a lame attempt to get cork fans to like him.

applehunter

I don't think many City fans would have had a problem with Roddy as manager tbh.

Always takes any abuse on the chin and is one of the league's characters.

Kenteach

applehunter wrote: »

I don't think many City fans would have had a problem with Roddy as manager tbh.

Always takes any abuse on the chin and is one of the league's characters.

Well City fans should have a problem if Roddy is their next manager. Any abuse he takes on the chin, he deserves. And then some. Not all 'characters' are desirable. The man is a cretin. Majority of leagus fans are wishing CCFC the best and hoping they come out the other side. Add Roddy to the mix and that goodwill will plummet.

Although if Roddy joining Cork meant seeing the back of Coughlan for good, then maybe it would be worth it!!

Pure Cork

Gavin shels wrote: »

So €5,000 fine, €6,000 owed to Farrelly, and then players wages all owed by Monday. Where in the name of God will he get that money?

Don't forget the staff. Players and staff must be paid in full, including taxes, or have a pay agreement. I'd be surprised if he didn't pay. He'll want to keep the show on the road if he wants a development contract.

applehunter wrote: »

I don't think many City fans would have had a problem with Roddy as manager tbh.

Always takes any abuse on the chin and is one of the league's characters.

I'd have a problem with Roddy. Even ignoring everything in his past, look at the crap surrounding him and the City job.

Pure Cork

FORAS have released a statement following the FAI verdict. There will be a vote to boycott home games next season.

18 December 2009 14:00

Statement following the FAI Verdict on Mr. T. Coughlan


Following yesterday's finding by the FAI Disciplinary Committee that Tom Coughlan, owner and Chairman of Cork City Football club has brought "the game of football or the FAI into disrepute", FORAS joins the call of Fran Gavin, Director of the League of Ireland, on Mr.Coughlan to consider his position.

In the interests of the fans and the players, as well as the long term future of the club we ask Mr.Coughlan to step aside with immediate effect, so that there remains some opportunity to redeem the former standing of our great club.

Should Tom Coughlan remain in charge of Cork City FC, FORAS BoM will respond to the numerous recent requests from our members to take a vote on a boycott of home games and Club merchandise while the current Chairman remains in control. We will facilitate our members in making a decision on this issue by holding a General Meeting in January.

Regards,
FORAS BoM

Pure Cork

Commandos 84 have released a statement. If Coughlan is still involved with City next season they will boycott all home games.

Commandos 84 Statement 18/12/2009

As a supporters group of Cork City FC, we offer our full
support to the FAI on yesterdays decision to implement a 12
month ban on all footballing
activity, and also imposing a €5000 fine, on the owner of
Cork City FC, Tom Coughlan.

As supporters we feel that Mr Coughlan has, over
the past 12 months, damaged the name and reputation of this
once great
club and we are not alone in this belief as shown by the
recent action by the FAI. The past season has been one of
embarrassment for the
club's players, staff, and fans with incidents such as
unpaid wages, unpaid bus companies, court cases, unfair
dismissals and other episodes. Cork City FC, as with many
League of Ireland club's has always had it's fair share of
problems but Mr Coughlan's reign as chairman and owner has
seen the club endure more problems than it ever has before
and his reaction to these troubles has been one of utter
disrespect to all parties involved, be they the FAI,
supporters or creditors.

We therefore wish to announce that if Mr Coughlan is in
charge
of Cork City FC for the 2010 season, we will be boycotting
all home
matches, where Mr Coughlan will benefit financially.

We call on Mr Coughlan to relinquish control and ownership
of the club as he has already had many opportunities to hand
ownership to other interested parties but has chosen not to
step aside despite his own personal statements. We fully
support FORAS and it's role in the guardianship of the club
and encourage all fans to join this organisation in order
for it to become stronger and to, in the future, run a
successful football club using the Shamrock Rovers model
which clearly works.

COMMANDOS 84
STATEMENT ENDS

D2D

C84 and Foras boycotting all home games if TNB is still in charge?!?! Attendances will be very low and there'll be no atmosphere what so ever.

Kenteach

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

C84 and Foras boycotting all home games if TNB is still in charge?!?! Attendances will be very low and there'll be no atmosphere what so ever.

As things currently stand, between the fine, Farrelly, Alan Matthews, players and other creditors, Coughlan may end up costing CCFC a licence for next season. And his attitude to the FAI means they won't be bending over backwards to help him out either. Drogheda probably wouldn't have pulled through without assistance and support from the FAI, look at what happened with Derry when they pissed off the FAI.

D2D

Kenteach wrote: »

As things currently stand, between the fine, Farrelly, Alan Matthews, players and other creditors, Coughlan may end up costing CCFC a licence for next season. And his attitude to the FAI means they won't be bending over backwards to help him out either. Drogheda probably wouldn't have pulled through without assistance and support from the FAI, look at what happened with Derry when they pissed off the FAI.

Very true.

So, City have no manager, no stadium (rumoured), no training ground, no contracted players (all free agents as they were not paid), no club shop, no online shop, no website and by extension no email (Taken from a Pure_Cork post). As Floriana (Roddy's club) said, it's like City don't even exist.

TNB has to pay creditors, players wages, the fine (which he's appealing), Matthews and Farrelly.

Didn't Foras want an A licence instead of the LoI Premier licence or did I just dream it up?? At the mo, City really do need the FAI to help us out or the club is facing a very real bleak future. Good point about Derry as well

dreamers75

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4XxT_7rFbg

The Leagues new theme tune.

Pure Cork

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Very true.

So, City have no manager, no stadium (rumoured), no training ground, no contracted players (all free agents as they were not paid), no club shop, no online shop, no website and by extension no email (Taken from a Pure_Cork post). As Floriana (Roddy's club) said, it's like City don't even exist.

TNB has to pay creditors, players wages, the fine (which he's appealing), Matthews and Farrelly.

Didn't Foras want an A licence instead of the LoI Premier licence or did I just dream it up?? At the mo, City really do need the FAI to help us out or the club is facing a very real bleak future. Good point about Derry as well

The website is back. The bill was paid in the last few days and the club have released a few statements regarding Roddy/Floriana and the FAI.

FORAS applied for a licence as a precautionary measure in the event that Coughlan doesn't get a licence.

Pure Cork

Roddy is in the papers blaming fans and "overpaid" players for destroying the club.

It looks like Coughlan, Drew, and Collins will be teaming up. The FAI must be delighted.

Horsefumbler

Can I get a synopsis of what has gone wrong at cork and what there chairman has done wrong. I don't know much about this but it sounds interesting.

TheBigLebowski

Horsefumbler wrote: »

Can I get a synopsis of what has gone wrong at cork and what there chairman has done wrong. I don't know much about this but it sounds interesting.

How long have you got?

I suggest you get googling...

RebelRockChick

Pure Cork wrote: »

Roddy is in the papers blaming fans and "overpaid" players for destroying the club.

It looks like Coughlan, Drew, and Collins will be teaming up. The FAI must be delighted.

Roddy sure knows how to win over the supporters :rolleyes:

The FAI really need to clarify Coughlans ban, is he still gonna be making decisions through Meaney or through someone else he will appoint or is it totally out of his hands.

As for the Coughlan/Drew/Roddy combo....doesn't sound appealing at all!

pablomakaveli

Pure Cork wrote: »

Roddy is in the papers blaming fans and "overpaid" players for destroying the club.

Roddy and Tom are perfect for each other. It'll be interesting to see how they can run a club with no fans.

Gavin "shels"

So do yous think you'll be still in the League this time tomorrow?

RebelRockChick

Well players and staff still haven't been paid, so unless they are paid early tomorrow, i can't see city being in the league...A Championship maybe? Best that we aren't to be honest, f**ked up too many times so a punishment is due and an example made of the club.

CiaranC

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Roddy and Tom are perfect for each other. It'll be interesting to see how they can run a club with no fans.

They could ring up Fingal and ask how

civis_liberalis

CiaranC wrote: »

They could ring up Fingal and ask how

They could if the phone hadn't already been cut off.

gimmick

Gavin shels wrote: »

So do yous think you'll be still in the League this time tomorrow?

Tommy will pull something out of the fire, he always does. Big fat meh from me anyway. Tired of the shít.

RebelRockChick wrote: »

A Championship maybe?

Is that even happening? Talk that it won't due to lack of interest in teams participating.

D2D

Just seen a comment on foot.ie about Roddy:

Collins is disgusting piece of work. He brings nothing positive whatsoever to the league. It is very apt that once again he leaves a club in a cloud of controversy of his own making.

Bohs: Attacks the Bohs board in the national media after winning the league title in a foolish attempt to get a much larger budget for the following season. Gets sacked.

Carlisle United: Attacks the owner of the club in the media and says he will leave if the owner doesn't sell the club to his mate John Courtney. Gets sacked. John Courtney buys club. Re-instates Roddy. Loses record number of games in a row. Gets sacked again.

Dublin City: With three weeks to go until the end of the season and fighting it out with Shamrock Rovers against relegation, he walks out on Dublin to leave them managerless to become Rovers new manager. Dublin subsequently relegated.

Shamrock Rovers: His contract was terminated by Rovers the following year and the club were relegated after a playoff, ironically with his old employers Dublin City. Had a case of unfair dismissal settled out of court.

Floriana (Malta): He suddenly leaves Floriana FC, to join Cork City. Floriana FC claimed that Cork City FC never requested permission from them to speak to their coach and refused to respond to any phonecalls, faxes or emails requesting information regarding about such meetings.

Cork City: Before it can even be announced that he is the new manager, the owner is banned from football for a year by the FAI. Looks extremely doubtful now if Roddy will get the role.

gimmick

^ Not to mention he has already attacked the fans and players, calling the latter overpaid. Plus he has called Tommy a well eductaed dignified man.

Circus.

D2D

So, todays the day that City will/won't get a Premier Division licence.

gimmick

He has 9 minutes or thats it as far as the license is concerned. Or has his time elapsed as the banks close at 4?

Pure Cork

gimmick wrote: »

Is that even happening? Talk that it won't due to lack of interest in teams participating.

Fairly sure it's still going ahead.

gimmick wrote: »

He has 9 minutes or thats it as far as the license is concerned. Or has his time elapsed as the banks close at 4?

They're open till 5 on Mondays.

D2D

I'm expecting an extension on this or a last second deal. Take your pick

D2D

Any news now it's 5.21???

pablomakaveli

Rumours going around that Danny Drew may be getting involved with Coughlan by giving financial backing or something like that. I really hope Tom does'nt get the money because he's gotten away with it by the skin of his teeth too many times this year.

Pure Cork

Another supporters group withdraw their support for Coughlan:

Friends of Cork City Statement 21/12/2009

Following on from the Commandos statement last week we also wish to announce that every FOCC member will be boycotting all home matches next season if Mr Tom Coughlan is still in charge of Cork City FC.
Mr Coughlan has continually dragged this clubs name through the dirt and brought it to the edge of extinction.
As a peaceful organisation we feel this action is only option at this point.

In unity with our Commando brethren we also call on Mr Coughlan to relinquish control and ownership of the club.

We also implore all other supporters groups to boycott the club while Tom Coughlan remains at the helm and to support FORAS in its efforts to keep our club alive.

FOCC

D2D

Pure Cork wrote: »

Another supporters group withdraw their support for Coughlan:

It'll be horrible to see the Cross empty come Feb/March if Tommy is still in charge. It really is sad to see the state of the club where some of the supporters don't want to see the club get a Premier division licence and will boycott the games

Pure Cork

Judging from the City forum, if licensing is strictly enforced, Coughlan won't get a licence.

gimmick

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

It'll be horrible to see the Cross empty come Feb/March if Tommy is still in charge.

Simple solution, do not go. Id say CCFC will be playing in front of 500 max come the season should he still be about.

Pure Cork

The club released a statement today.

Statement Regarding Disciplinary Committee Sanction
Monday December 21st 2009
Cork City FC Chairman Tom Coughlan today obtained an Order from the High Court for leave to judicially review the Disciplinary Committee’s hearing of 17 December 2009.
The order relates to the Committee’s refusal of Mr. Coughlan’s request for an adjournment, the Committee’s decision to hold the hearing in Mr. Coughlan’s absence and the Committee’s finding that Mr. Coughlan had brought the game of football into disrepute and the sanction imposed on him.

As a result of this, certain issues may not be capable of being finalised while the proceedings are pending.

Notwithstanding the pending judicial review proceedings, Mr. Coughlan remains committed to obtaining a renewal of the Club's license and will be doing everything possible to ensure such renewal while awaiting the outcome of the judicial review.

Speaking to CorkCityFC.ie, Mr Coughlan said: “I was very disappointed with the decision of the Disciplinary Committee and the manner in which we have been treated. It is unfortunate that we have had to pursue this course of action, however given the prejudicial nature of the CEO’s comments and the subsequent actions of the Disciplinary Committee, we were left with no option. We hope that this issue can be brought to speedy and successful conclusion so that we can concentrate on playing football next season.”

If, as stated, Coughlan is doing everything possible to ensure renewal of the licence, notwithstanding the pending judicial review proceedings, then why didn't he meet the deadline? There is nothing stopping him (not even the ban imposed) as owner of CCIFC Ltd from ensuring that the bills are paid.

Pure Cork

The FAI have responded to the statement above from the club:

The Football Association of Ireland this evening (December 21) confirmed its surprise at the Cork City FC statement that Mr Tom Coughlan was granted leave to apply for judicial review, given that Mr Coughlan has to date failed to exhaust all internal appeal procedures open to him.

The FAI is not on notice of any court application and if any order was made, it would been given on an ex parte basis, meaning that it would have been granted on Mr Coughlan’s word only.

chopperbyrne

That's as clear an indication as any that the FAI are fed up with him and it's highly unlikely Cork City will be getting a license while he remains at the club in any capacity.

Pure Cork

chopperbyrne wrote: »

That's as clear an indication as any that the FAI are fed up with him and it's highly unlikely Cork City will be getting a license while he remains at the club in any capacity.

The frustrating thing is he'll appeal decisions every step of the way.

Quint

Pure Cork wrote: »

Roddy is in the papers blaming fans and "overpaid" players for destroying the club.

It looks like Coughlan, Drew, and Collins will be teaming up. The FAI must be delighted.

It's the players fault that they're over paid? Roddy is living in dreamland!

chopperbyrne wrote: »

That's as clear an indication as any that the FAI are fed up with him and it's highly unlikely Cork City will be getting a license while he remains at the club in any capacity.

Yeah, looks like they're sick of him. Finally, some good from the FAI!

Pure Cork wrote: »

The frustrating thing is he'll appeal decisions every step of the way.

Yeah, seems like he postpones, delays, appeals everything. Doesn't turn up for meetings in order to drag things out.

gimmick

I can honestly say I have no idea what the bloody hell is going on. The FAI have made some statement but I do not understand that either.

Pure Cork

Cork City miss wages deadline. No licence for Tom Coughlan.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1222/corkcity.html

Cork City miss wages deadline
Tuesday, 22 December 2009 09:01

The fate of Cork City FC is out of their hands, after the club missed yesterday's deadline to settle outstanding wages.

The Leesiders owe a figure in the region of €150,000 to current and former players and have been unable to secure an overdraft to make the payments.

The FAI's Licensing Committee are likely to look at the case once Cork City have paid their bills.

The FAI have also indicated that they are surprised at Cork City Chairman Tom Coughlan has applied for a court hearing in response to his one year ban from football and €5,000 fine.

Why do staff never get a mention?

Pure Cork

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/corkrsquos-fate-in-fai-hands-as-payment-date-missed-1984746.html

Cork’s fate in FAI hands as payment date missed
By Daniel McDonnell
Tuesday December 22 2009

THE Premier Division fate of Cork City is now at the discretion of the FAI’s Licensing Committee after the Leesiders missed yesterday’s deadline to settle outstanding wage commitments for the 2009 campaign.

Troubled Cork owe a figure in the region of €150,000 to current and former players and have been unable to secure an overdraft to meet that figure. They claim they will have the money in January when they receive funds from the transfer of central defender Kevin Long to Burnley.

While a period of grace exists until January 29 for clubs to meet outstanding debts, the committee have the authority to consider the individual cases of those who settle their bills after the original deadline.

The FAI promised to be tougher on offending clubs this year and their call for Cork owner Tom Coughlan to consider his position – in the wake of his 12-month ban from certain aspects of the game – indicates a hardening stance towards the Turner’s Cross side.

Cork were expected to offer some form of written agreement to their players, through their union, the PFAI, in a bid to stall time but no such offer was forthcoming.

Yesterday, however, Coughlan obtained a high court order to seek a judicial review over the decision - a development which the FAI greeted with “surprise” last night.

Several high-profile Cork players have lined up other moves. Joe Gamble has agreed terms with Hartlepool while skipper Dan Murray has to choose between Shamrock Rovers and Sligo, with the former in pole position.

Meanwhile, Roddy Collins is waiting to formally take over the reins in Cork and instigate a clear-out of his own.

Galway United and Longford Town were yesterday also sorting out minor issues with the Licensing Committee, who will meet this week to discuss the state of play with all league members.

- Daniel McDonnell

gimmick

Pure Cork wrote: »

Cork City miss wages deadline. No licence for Tom Coughlan.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1222/corkcity.html


Why do staff never get a mention?

Becasue I would imagine, they are not seen as the bigger picture. Anyway, i think it is implied that they ahve not been paid either.

Tommy has no scrupples, he knows he has left some people without money for 3+ months. No one should be expected to survive like that.

I am just surprised the players and staff have not gone down a legal route (for all the good it would do). ****ing prick.

Roar

i won't be returning to turner's cross as a fan until coughlan is gone, and i'd imagine plenty more people feel the same way.

he's an embarrassment, a disgrace, and will go down as the most hated figure in the club's history.

let's just hope the club's history doesn't end with him.

Zebra3

Roar wrote: »

he's an embarrassment, a disgrace, and will go down as the most hated figure in the club's history.

Even more than anyone from Arkaga?

Roar

Zebra3 wrote: »

Even more than anyone from Arkaga?

yup

no one really knew who or what an arkaga was!

D2D

gimmick wrote: »

Simple solution, do not go. Id say CCFC will be playing in front of 500 max come the season should he still be about.

It'll prob be the Family enclousure bunch and the away fans at the cross next season.

Pure Cork

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

It'll prob be the Family enclousure bunch and the away fans at the cross next season.

I don't think the family enclosure will be there next season, unless Tommy gets someone else to run it. Could be wrong though.

D2D

Roar wrote: »

i won't be returning to turner's cross as a fan until coughlan is gone, and i'd imagine plenty more people feel the same way.

he's an embarrassment, a disgrace, and will go down as the most hated figure in the club's history.

let's just hope the club's history doesn't end with him.

+1,000,000

Completly feel the same way with ya. What TNB has done with the club over the past year has been nothing short of awful.

Lollymcd

Is he too stubborn to sell... even now? Would he get the €400 000 + he was offered a while ago?