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No Campaigner- Sock Puppet for Monarchist Catholic Elite

  • 25-09-2009 3:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭


    Oh the Irony...

    It would seem the illumaniti style Catholic Monarchists are backing failed politician Declan Ganley. Throwing his and other No supporters retoric in a completely new light.

    Libertas' campaign against the "unelected elites" would seem to be nothing more than a false flag. High level informants from Ganleys own camp have revealed Libertas' significant backers are Catholic fundamentalist MONARCHISTS who despise the european project because it threatens the elitist and feudalist world they live in.
    Libertas are in fact backed and supported not just by fundamentalist Christians but even more startling they are supported by the members of the most undisputed unelected elites of Europe, the aristocratic descendents and heirs to the Bourbon Royal houses of Europe and also Charlemagne.

    ...one the strongest ultra Catholic monarchist connections that Libertas have comes through an Irish family, the Ascoughs, that is extremely active in fundamentalist Christianity in Europe. This family was introduced to Declan Ganley by Caroline Simons thereby providing links to a pan-European monarchist, aristocratic, ultra Catholic cabal.

    Damian Erbgraf v.Schönborn-Buchheim and his Irish wife Deirdre Mary Ascough have both campaigned actively for Libertas in 2008.
    Damian Erbgraf von.Schönborn-Buchheim is descended from Charlemange on his father’s side and the French monarchy on his mothers’. He was born in Vienna, Austria on 17 July 1965 the son of Friedrich Karl Graf v.Schönborn-Buchheim and of his wife, Princess Isabelle d'Orléans).

    Isabelle d’Orleans is a Boubon, and helds the title Princess de France. As eldest son, Damien, could in theory claim the French throne should it still exist. Their backgrounds place this couple at the centre of fundamentalist Catholic monarchist ambitions in Europe.

    Viscount Phillipe de Villiers of the Vendee, the centre of the counter revolution in France, was the only MEP elected on the Libertas ticket was. De Villier is a far right French fundamentalist Catholic who believes in monarchical rule.
    Tom Ascough is a director of the Iona Institute, a fundamentalist Catholic organisation.http://www.ionainstitute.ie/board_of_directors.php.Both were in attendance along with Phillipe de Villier at Ganley’s Shelbourne dinner in 2008. So too was brother Sean Ascough, who like Tom, is a self-employed Chartered Mechanical and Electrical Engineer, and has almost twenty years experience of youth evangelisation and other religious initiatives.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1113/1226408582790.html.

    [/QUOTE]
    Libertas is a political front for the amibitions of an ultra Catholic aristocratic cabal. But as to the actual the role and the aims of this unelected elite, Mr Ganley seems to espouse values directly opposed to the ‘transparency and accountability” he cries for.[/QUOTE]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    I'm amazed in general given that Ganley has lots of connections to the US military that the No people would listen to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭todolist


    There's a lot of smears and false info put out against Ganley.Fact is the Nice referendum was defeated,the Lisbon referendum was defeated yet both were re-run because the result didn't meet Brussles expetations.You see a pattern here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    todolist wrote: »
    There's a lot of smears and false info put out against Ganley.Fact is the Nice referendum was defeated,the Lisbon referendum was defeated yet both were re-run because the result didn't meet Brussles expetations.You see a pattern here?

    :eek:

    Illuminati!!!!!

    ;)

    What False info was put out against Ganley? Please let us know what an upstanding citizen he really is...


    Was it any of theses per chance?

    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/24/business/ex-spectrum-president-among-10-indicted.html
    The wife, son-in-law, and nephew of Peter T. Caserta, 55, former chief executive of Spectrum, were among those named in the indictment, as was James Paterek, who runs Spectrum Global Services Inc., a subsidiary of Spectrum, which is based in Manhasset, L.I.

    The Government said Mr. Caserta and his colleagues at the Caserta Group had engaged in a huge fraud, in which 300 companies in 23 states were bilked of more than $6 million from 1988 to 1994

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0407/1224244144568.html
    A brother of Mr Ganley’s wife, Delia Ganley (née Paterek), is a director of an Irish company called Delcoast Ltd, with an address at Clonberne, Co Galway. James Paterek, with an address in Planome, New York, is a director of the company along with a builder, Michael McHugh, of Clonberne. Neither Mr Paterek or Mr McHugh could be contacted.

    Delcoast’s annual return for the year to May 2008 states it is owned by Golden Bay Holdings Group Ltd, with a registered office in the Isle of Man. The company’s accounts are audited by Michael Cuddy Co, Athlone, auditors to Mr Ganley’s Irish companies and to The Libertas Institute Ltd.
    The last filed annual return of a UK company called Capital Route Private Hire Ltd, shows the majority of its shares were held by Golden Bay Holdings Ltd.

    The company was part of a failed project of Mr Ganley’s to set up a quality car hire service in a number of European capitals. It is now dissolved.

    Now Go out and ask Ganley why he won't pay Corporation Tax in a country he "loves so well".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    todolist wrote: »
    There's a lot of smears and false info put out against Ganley. ... You see a pattern here?
    Mr Ganley is to quit his role as chief executive of Rivada and take over as chairman, which will allow him more time to concentrate on the European elections. John Kelly, a former president of Bell Aerospace and a current Rivada director, is to take over the post of chief executive.

    All four newcomers to the board are linked to the international defence industry. They include a former chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff during the Iraqi invasion, Gen Richard Myers; former chief of the UK defence staff, Lord Charles Guthrie; and two former senior officials in the US department of homeland security, Michael Jackson and George Forseman.

    Rivada Networks is a US-based defence contracting firm specialising in the provision of telecommunications systems to the military, police and emergency services in disaster situations and has secured US military contracts worth up to $240million (€190 million). Lord Guthrie, who has served in the SAS, was chief of the UK general staff between 1997 and 2001. He is a cross-bench member of the House of Lords. He was created a life peer after retiring as chief of the defence staff.

    Gen Myers is a former four-star general in the United States air force and served as the 15th chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.

    He was the principal military adviser to George Bush for the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

    Mr Jackson is a former deputy secretary of the US department of homeland security. Mr Forseman was the department’s under-secretary for preparedness until 2007.

    The appointments are likely to fuel claims by Mr Ganley’s political opponents that his opposition to the Lisbon Treaty reflects his close links with the US military-industrial complex.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0311/1224242664635.html

    Yeah we're all out to get him :rolleyes: You see a pattern here?

    I really am amazed that anyone with an interest in CT's would trust Ganley.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭Four-Too


    This is bogus. You know nothing about the illuminati the same as 99% of people. How can Catholic Monarchists have similar ideals as the illuminati/elites? Obviously, Ganley is being exposed as much as possible to discredit him, probably why he didn't get elected. Although some of the stuff is true, he isn't perfect. Monarchy has already been eroded to be more or less powerless thanks to the elites.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Four-Too wrote: »
    ...Obviously, Ganley is being exposed as much as possible to discredit him, probably why he didn't get elected. Although some of the stuff is true, he isn't perfect. ...

    Hang on, all the info on Ganley can be checked. I don't get it, normally Ganley is exactly the guy CT'ers would never trust. He has huge contacts with the American military and the board of his company is full of Bush-ite types.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Four-Too wrote: »
    This is bogus. You know nothing about the illuminati the same as 99% of people. How can Catholic Monarchists have similar ideals as the illuminati/elites?

    I used the term illuminati in jest, in fact if you re-read the post you'll see it says "illuminati STYLE" That is to say the families go back generations into history. I don't actually believe the illuminati stories that are so prevelant on this here internets.

    But looking Ganley and his confedracy of loons, I'd say Opus Dei is more likely the connection between them all. And the poor old illuminati wouldn't be a patch on those shower...

    I too am suspicious about how Ganley et al. get off so likely on this forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭Black Uhlan


    studiorat wrote: »
    I used the term illuminati in jest, in fact if you re-read the post you'll see it says "illuminati STYLE" That is to say the families go back generations into history.
    :rolleyes:
    Don't most?
    studiorat wrote: »
    I don't actually believe the illuminati stories that are so prevelant on this here internets.
    [/quote]

    Well that negates your originial point then, doesn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    A CT'er exposing a conspiracy? Has the world gone mad? :D

    I actually find it sad that people feel the need to smear Ganley. He does a fine job if it himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I've removed a post from here by Black Uhlan (might be temporary) while the mods discuss it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭Black Uhlan


    6th wrote: »
    I've removed a post from here by Black Uhlan (might be temporary) while the mods discuss it.

    Any update on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    humanji wrote: »
    A CT'er exposing a conspiracy? Has the world gone mad? :D

    I actually find it sad that people feel the need to smear Ganley. He does a fine job if it himself.

    True. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why the CT'ers are not up in arms about the guy. He's everything we've been told in here not to trust. Can someone explain please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    meglome wrote: »
    True. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why the CT'ers are not up in arms about the guy. He's everything we've been told in here not to trust. Can someone explain please?


    hes still a relative newbie in worldly political terms.....give it time ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭Black Uhlan


    6th wrote: »
    I've removed a post from here by Black Uhlan (might be temporary) while the mods discuss it.

    can i even know what the issue is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Black Uhlan, if you continue posting off topic you will get an infraction. Please read the charter and pay close attention to these 2 bits:
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    Snide remarks and bitching will not be tolerated, nor will accusations thrown at other members of the Boards.ie community. Singling out a poster or posters, including stating things like "some posters on here" could land you in trouble.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Did you hear about Hedge Funds now they are really after Declan now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    :rolleyes:
    Don't most?


    Well that negates your originial point then, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

    Whut?

    Most families aren't living off the money from their lands and estates in those families for the last 400 years...


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