oh dear god, Libertas at it again

The Volt

Hopefully the idiots who would potentially fall for them also lack literacy skills.

AARRRGH

AARRRGH wrote: »

Sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding your reply, but my interpretation of the "I'm safer in Europe" poster is they are attempting to tap into many women's fear of assault/abuse. You know, voting no will make you unsafe.

Playing on women's fear of assault/abuse????!!!!!!!

This isn't a vote on legalizing rape. Stop being dramatic. I could just as easily point to the girl crying in the NO poster and say a YES vote will have her raped and that's why she's crying.

It's just as completely and utterly ridiculous as what you just said. "Safe" in that poster means jobs and financial security. Not assault/abuse. If you contest that, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I can only think that you literally made that up as you were typing as a way to try make a point.. No woman would ever look at that and think, "Jesus, I better vote Yes in case I'm assaulted or abused".

Definately ignoring any other post you make on this site from now on by the way. Ya've lost all credibility when you come out with stuff like that.

AARRRGH

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm going to vote no though, for a couple of reasons but the main one being that we voted "wrong" last time so have to vote again. That's unacceptable in my book.

It's perfectly acceptable.. Last time, no one was a die hard Yes voter. Only no voters were passionate about the treaty and thus, most people who voted were No voters. I don't know one person who voted because I don't hang around with No voters.

This time, people who agree with the treaty will get up and vote in order to silence Declan Ganleys power trip and ridicule the lies that the No vote has spread. This vote is probably the most fueled debate in recent Irish history where everyone has an opinion and will vote for it.

Last time, it was only the No campaign who cared and voted because the Yes campaign was so poor. This time, the Yes voters are determined to not let No voters drag this treaty into the ground on the back of Declan Ganley's lies and BS.

Agent Smith

I looked at that poster for a few minutes and i knew i'd seem something very simular.


here, it would turn out.


Right....

The Volt

squod

Yeah, Libertas should have put up VOTE NO FOR JOBS posters all over the place.

ei.sdraob

squod wrote: »

Yeah, Libertas should have put up VOTE NO FOR JOBS posters all over the place.

Libertas should put up a picture of General Richard Myers

the guy from Bush's Chiefs of Staff who started the Iraq war and is now working with Ganley

that guy certainly created alot of jobs (in the coffin and armament's industries )

:mad:

The Volt

Ganley has recieved funding from the American arms industry to push for a no vote remember

Furious-Dave

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Libertas should put up a picture of General Richard Myers

the guy from Bush's Chiefs of Staff who started the Iraq war and is now working with Ganley

that guy certainly created alot of jobs (in the coffin and armament's industries )

:mad:

Wow that's quite a bunch on the board of directors of Rivada Networks. And it's enough for me to want Ganley escorted to Dublin Airport under armed guard and put on a plane back to the US and never to be permitted access to the EU ever again. Ah, if only :rolleyes:

ei.sdraob

Furious-Dave wrote: »

Wow that's quite a bunch on the board of directors of Rivada Networks. And it's enough for me to want Ganley escorted to Dublin Airport under armed guard and put on a plane back to the US and never to be permitted access to the EU ever again. Ah, if only :rolleyes:

yeh some bunch alright

prinz

Voltwad wrote: »

Ganley has recieved funding from the American arms industry to push for a no vote remember

It's also the guy who has the stars and stripes hanging in his office. Easy to see what side his bread's been buttered.

The Volt

prinz wrote: »

It's also the guy who has the stars and stripes hanging in his office. Easy to see what side his bread's been buttered.

Haha, priceless. The guy couldn't lie straight

marco_polo

I like to judge a man by the company he keeps:

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/ganleys-backer-revealed-1897865.html

DECLAN Ganley's 'No to Lisbon Campaign' has been bankrolled by a secretive British hedge fund boss that made hundreds of millions of euros "short selling" Irish banks last year.

Regulatory filings reveal that the wealthy investor, Crispin Odey, donated almost €3,500 to "Pro-Democracy: Libertas.eu" on May 28. The Mayfair-based hedge fund boss also donated nearly €15,000 worth of services to the organisation. Libertas is also backed by other London financiers.

Odey, who received a near €35m bonus last year, was one of the leading short sellers of Anglo Irish Bank, before the bank imploded.

MavisDavis

Ganley got my hopes up after the elections in June when he said he'd bow out of political life.. Can you imagine how much bigger his head would be if he'd been elected? He's an absolute headwrecker.

On the subject of no groups, I actually think Cóir should win the "most annoying" award this time. Last time it was a tie between Libertas and the 32-County Soveriegnity Movement. That lot had the most ludicrous reason to vote no I've ever heard (and there are a great many ridiculous reasons) - "vote no to Lisbon because it doesn't give us a United Ireland". Right, lads; what have you been taking?

BlitzKrieg

there's another version of the poster that has european democracy instead of irish democracy when I first saw it the first time I thought they might have changed the date on the irish one. Didnt get a close look so dont know what colour her eyes in that one are...

Sully

moondogspot wrote: »

I have to agree with you. The way the Yes side are trying to portray themselves as honest

people shocked at the no campaign is hilarious. As if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths. They

ain't fooling nobody.

Aye, sure, what the yes side have said has absolutely no foundation at all. Whereas the No side are clearly not contradicting each other in their campaigns, not coming out saying "Actually, thats completely false and does not apply to the EU at all" about parts of their campaigns, not spreading 100x more scare tactics since Lisbon I (leaflets with buldozers, sick eldery people, children crying, micheal collins etc), not representing bodys such as farmers, fisherie groups, churches etc who obviouslly have not all came out and knocked the No side false representations/claims.

Ya, the No side are clearly the lesser of two evils.

skearon

ei.sdraob wrote: »

do these people have any shame

see new poster

It's a despicable poster

Radio stations need to receive lots of messages expressing disgust at his use of the image of a small child to support a political lie.

Is there nothing Ganley won't do to manipulate voters? He's as bad as COIR/Youth Defence!

squod

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Libertas should put up a picture of General Richard Myers

the guy from Bush's Chiefs of Staff who started the Iraq war and is now working with Ganley

that guy certainly created alot of jobs (in the coffin and armament's industries )

:mad:

Or maybe the yes side could put up a poster of someone who screwed us all over by bailing out his buddies in Anglo? With a 'trust me' logo on it.

The Volt

squod wrote: »

Or maybe the yes side could put up a poster of someone who screwed us all over by bailing out his buddies in Anglo? With a 'trust me' logo on it.

But that would be pointless because EVERYBODY knows that the treaty has nothing to do with Fianna Fail

Stark

I notice their other poster is "European Democracy. 1945 - 2009". It's good to know that democracy came to Ireland 29 years before it came to the rest of Europe.

squod

Voltwad wrote: »

But that would be pointless because EVERYBODY knows that the treaty has nothing to do with Fianna Fail

Wow. That's like big news. You're saying our elected representatives didn't help form the Lisbon treaty. Isn't that a good reason to vote no?

squod

Stark wrote: »

I notice their other poster is "European Democracy. 1945 - 2009". It's good to know that democracy came to Ireland 29 years before it came to the rest of Europe.

Hillarious. Thanks for that.

The Volt

squod wrote: »

Wow. That's like big news. You're saying our elected representatives didn't help form the Lisbon treaty. Isn't that a good reason to vote no?

Our MEP's did. Not the man you want to see sacked

BlitzKrieg

Stark wrote: »

I notice their other poster is "European Democracy. 1945 - 2009". It's good to know that democracy came to Ireland 29 years before it came to the rest of Europe.

what colour are her eyes in the european one? I have money running on blue.

squod

Voltwad wrote: »

Our MEP's did. Not the man you want to see sacked

Nice one. Some of our MEPs want a no vote, some of the people who deserve to be sacked want a yes vote.

The Volt

squod wrote: »

Nice one. Some of our MEPs want a no vote, some of the people who deserve to be sacked want a yes vote.

One of 13 democratically elected MEP's want a no vote.

squod

Voltwad wrote: »

One of 13 democratically elected MEP's want a no vote.

88 democratically elected TDs and 3 MEPs want you to pay for Anglo. Are they the ones you trust?

The Volt

squod wrote: »

88 democratically elected TDs and 3 MEPs want you to pay for Anglo. Are they the ones you trust?

I trust the ones I voted for yes, I'm in favour of nationalisation but stay on topic

K-9

squod wrote: »

Nice one. Some of our MEPs want a no vote, some of the people who deserve to be sacked want a yes vote.

Ah come on here, Some isn't one.

We usually have one or two Anti EU MEP's at some stage,

Daftendirekt

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

what colour are her eyes in the european one? I have money running on blue.

They aren't green anyway.