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Beers with high ABVs

  • 28-09-2009 10:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭


    What's peoples' general opinion of beers with high alcohol content?

    Duvel was on sale for €1.99 in Tesco so I picked up a bottle. I had tried it in Belgium a few years ago but didn't really like it but thought I'd give it a go as I've started brewing beers myself so I thought my tastes may have changed. They hadn't! Still don't like it.

    I think the high alcohol content, and the resulting high alcohol taste, just ruins it for me. It tastes like someone has put a shot of Vodka into a beer.
    It's also quite sweet, but I was expecting that as it would need the sugar for the high ABV.

    I've tried other high ABVs and didn't like them either.
    Is it an acquired taste?
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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I can't think how it would be an acquired taste since there are so many different tastes of so many different beers. Where do you even start to apply the "high ABV" label?

    How about trying a darker beer, like Chimay Blue or Westmall Dubbel? Or a hoppier one like Sierra Nevada Torpedo or Porterhouse Brainblásta?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I can't think how it would be an acquired taste since there are so many different tastes of so many different beers.
    When I said acquired taste I meant the actual taste of alcohol. I know it's hard to compare like for like as they are different styles but the one thing they all have in common, in my opinion, is the overwhelming taste of alcohol and it's something I just can't seem to stomach.

    BeerNut wrote: »
    Where do you even start to apply the "high ABV" label?
    I'd say from 7% and over.

    BeerNut wrote: »
    How about trying a darker beer, like Chimay Blue or Westmall Dubbel? Or a hoppier one like Sierra Nevada Torpedo or Porterhouse Brainblásta?
    I actually picked up a bottle of Chimay Red with the Duvel but haven't tried it yet. Although, I've tried Chimay before in Belgium along with a few others, can't remember which ones though.

    I also tried the Porterhouse Brainblásta a few weeks ago and didn't like it, but I do like their Porterhouse Red.....a lot!

    Maybe high ABVs are not for me.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Maybe high ABVs are not for me.
    So you don't do spirits, liqueurs or wine then either?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    BeerNut wrote: »
    So you don't do spirits, liqueurs or wine then either?
    Love wine, but I'm not mad gone on Reds that have an overly high ABV, or at least the ones that have a high ABV that you can taste it.

    I like whiskey but drink it neat, so I don't have an aversion to the taste of alcohol.

    I think it's just when I can taste it in beer I don't like it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I think it's just when I can taste it in beer I don't like it.
    Hmmm. There are definitely non-boozy 7%-and-up beers out there, so I wouldn't go tarring them all with the same brush. If you're interested, I'd recommend giving some strong hoppy ones a go: Torpedo, BrewDog Hardcore IPA, Victory Hop Wallop. But the most important thing is to drink what you enjoy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    BeerNut wrote: »
    There are definitely non-boozy 7%-and-up beers out there, so I wouldn't go tarring them all with the same brush.
    I'm not, but I can only comment on my experience, albeit quite limited, of high ABV beers.

    BeerNut wrote: »
    If you're interested, I'd recommend giving some strong hoppy ones a go: Torpedo, BrewDog Hardcore IPA, Victory Hop Wallop.
    I've definitely give them a go. Cheers.

    BeerNut wrote: »
    But the most important thing is to drink what you enjoy.
    Hell yeah! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Anoeta


    I personally love that boozey warmth at the back of the throat you get with Duvel.


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    Anoeta wrote: »
    I personally love that boozey warmth at the back of the throat you get with Duvel.

    Yup, it's a fantastic drink, in small quantities though! Although the abbots ale house have huge 4.5 ltr bottles of it for €200 :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    Was in a place called Andechs (a monestary) near Munich years ago. They had very strong beer there, but it didn't taste that strong. There were lots of drunk people on the train back.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8278312.stm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Brockagh wrote: »
    Was in a place called Andechs (a monestary) near Munich years ago. They had very strong beer there, but it didn't taste that strong. There were lots of drunk people on the train back.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8278312.stm


    An now they dont serve the bock at weekends


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    oblivious wrote: »
    An now they dont serve the bock at weekends
    Rather than serve it in measures less than a litre?

    Eejits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Rather than serve it in measures less than a litre?

    Eejits.

    I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    I don't know if I saw this myself or if someone convinced me it was true, but they had handles on the sinks in the toilets there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    I like some of the Chimays, but I can't help think I'd like them more if they didn't have so much alcohol in them. Maybe I'm drinking them the wrong way, though.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Brockagh wrote: »
    Maybe I'm drinking them the wrong way, though.
    Drink them like you'd drink wine, including the glass, if you don't have a wide-mouthed beer chalice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    Tomorow im starting brewing a belgian kit beer of the Diabolo type. Shell be 8%, as long as i have no screw ups. Cant wait to taster her....in 3 and a half months :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I can't think how it would be an acquired taste since there are so many different tastes of so many different beers. Where do you even start to apply the "high ABV" label?

    I'm assuming for many people, "high ABV" is north of the mid 4% line. So Brainblasta would be high ABV. I think though didn't I read apost from you before that Guinness had fluctuated in ABV and was at 5 at one point ?

    I was in Cardiff a few years ago and they've got Brains which has about 3 different % with the highest I think being 4.7 and only the crazy people drink that cause it's so high an ABV (apparently, according to one local barfly).
    BeerNut wrote: »
    So you don't do spirits, liqueurs or wine then either?

    Good point. Take something like whiskey where the maximum flavour and taste can be had from either straight up neat or with a drop of water not diluted with a cola so that you can't taste the alchohol.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    didn't I read apost from you before that Guinness had fluctuated in ABV and was at 5 at one point ?
    1954 was the last time was over 5. It's been above 8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Mexico66


    Worth trying on draught is the Augustine Beer ABV 6.5%. it's available in the Dice Bar and Sin è Bar in Dublin. Also at around €4 for a 33cl glass of draught beer, it's serious bang for your euros! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Just had a Tennents Super @ 9% tonight. I had one last week and kinda thought it was a bit alright. Changed my mind this week.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    Changed my mind this week.
    :D

    Like all the best drinks, it has a song about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    I didn't even finish the can. I think I kinda liked it last week because it was sometihng new and fancy and you can't get them here (I got them in Newry). Nah, really not nice. I don't even think it was the ABV that put me off.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Is there any "super" lagers over here or is it just a UK thing? I've never seen any such cans in my local tescos anyways!

    Nick


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    There are a fair few here: Warka, for instance, and Bavaria 8.6. In general, however, Irish tramps prefer cider.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    I don't know actually.

    As I said before, in Wales they've got three different strength Brains and then there's that Tennents Super stuff. I don't think we do the whole "I'll have a pint of 4.9%". I think most beers here hover around the 4.5% mark.

    There's Guinness' Foreign Extra Stout that's about 7.5 and O'Hara's have one at about 6%. I don't think there's many "foreign" or non-Irish beers sold here with an advertised high ABV. At least not like some of the UK ones.


    Edit: didn't know there was a 6% Bav you could get here. The lads in the Pav would love that one :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭MediaTank


    BeerNut wrote: »
    In general, however, Irish tramps prefer cider.

    Or Buckfast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    The whole Chimay range smells and tastes like dirty socks! Really don't like it at all. Duvel is not bad but after a couple i find myself too merry. I'm happy to stick to the 6% Leffe or Hoegaarden, much tastier blonde beers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭wobzilla


    chimay red is the nicest of the three in my opinion. i'm not mad on the white one, it always leaves me dying with the thirst. If you can find a bottle of Thomas hardy ale, I'd recomend it. It does a really good job of concealing the alcohol considering it's over 11%. Whatever you do don't try Sam adams triple bock. i bought it because i enjoyed a few of Sam adam's beers but this one looks, smells and tastes exactly like soy sauce. And it's about €11 for a 300ml bottle.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    I really like the chimay red and even more so the blue, it's all down to personal taste of course and they shouldn't be too cold when drinking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,791 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    I've had a few bottles of this: (not together ;))

    398eisbock.jpg


    12%, Take it nice and slow and it's not that noticeably alcoholic.
    You'll likely notice in yourself by the end of the glass though..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    wobzilla wrote: »
    Whatever you do don't try Sam adams triple bock. i bought it because i enjoyed a few of Sam adam's beers but this one looks, smells and tastes exactly like soy sauce.
    :DChocolate soy sauce. I love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Bought this on Friday....Straffe Hendrik Brugs Tripel Bier 9°

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/268/47909


    Its very rare of me not to finish a bottle of beer but this was just too much.
    I am not a big fan of sweet tasting beer but this was too sweet for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Was just in booze to go (classy i know) and noticed that they a beer called steiger?. Anyway it was 4 cans for a fiver and 10%. Has anyone ever tried this. I like a nice strong lager but at that price i don't hold much hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,185 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Was just in booze to go (classy i know) and noticed that they a beer called steiger?. Anyway it was 4 cans for a fiver and 10%. Has anyone ever tried this. I like a nice strong lager but at that price i don't hold much hope.

    I'm guessing that there is a pricing mistake or it's not really 10%
    The duty alone on a 10% beer would probably be more than that price.
    I do remember a cheap lager in a silver can called Steiger from way back - wasn't 10%, although there could be a 'super' version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    I'm guessing that there is a pricing mistake or it's not really 10%
    The duty alone on a 10% beer would probably be more than that price.
    I do remember a cheap lager in a silver can called Steiger from way back - wasn't 10%, although there could be a 'super' version.

    Well i would have to go in and check but it definitely was 10%. the price was handwritten so maybe it was near sell buy date. I did buy a 10% beer in sweden at 1.65 a can though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Yeah I remember Steiger from when I was working in the local as a teenager. Cheap and not that popular. Think Guinness was 1.50 a pint Steiger was around 1.40 I think. Shows you how long ago it was!
    Don't remember it being stronger than regular lager though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,460 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I'm not a huge fan of strong beers, due to the alcohol flavour you described. but I had a Bottle of Westvleteren 12 in Amsterdam, which is 10% and there's such a richness of flavour, you can barely taste the alcohol off it at all.
    Amazing beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Blisterman wrote: »
    but I had a Bottle of Westvleteren 12 in Amsterdam, which is 10% and there's such a richness of flavour, you can barely taste the alcohol off it at all.
    Amazing beer.

    Cherish those flavours its a very hard beer to buy ;)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Girls with low Self Esteem


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    oblivious wrote: »
    its a very hard beer to buy ;)
    Ah, no. A few clicks and it's yours. For a bargain price too. :D


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Ah, no. A few clicks and it's yours. For a bargain price too. :D

    I love there tag line

    Supporting the independent brewer, wine producer and distiller

    that really does not conform with the price on that bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭ButcherOfNog


    Westmalle Tripel Blond Trappist beer, it's 9.5%, lovely :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Two years on and I have to say I'm changed my mind considerably.

    Sitting here enjoying a Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Ale which weighs in at a not too shabby 9.6%. I've tried it before and couldn't get past the alcohol taste but my tastebuds have certainly changed. I think it may have a lot to do with my love of American IPAs.

    Funny how the auld tastebuds change over time. :)


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