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Jawgap

What's Michael Healy-Rae doing in London?

Bunnyhopper

Andrea Pinarello dies after heart attack

Son of Italian bike maker dead at 40

Andrea Pinarello, the son of the Pinarello bicycle manufacturer founder Giovanni, collapsed and died following the opening stage of an amateur cycling race, according to reports in Italy.

The 40-year-old suffered a heart attack following the first stage of the Giro del Friuli, an amateur Italian stage race. He is reported to have collapsed immediately after crossing the finish line in apparent good health.

Paramedics successfully revived him, but a second heart attack shortly afterwards was to prove fatal.

Andrea, who had a long association with the highly-regarded Italian bike manufacturing family, is survived by his wife and two children.

The Pinarello family has close links to sport, sponsoring major professional teams and riders of the calbire of Miguel Indurain for many years. The company currnetly supplies bikes to Team Sky and Movistar.

Cyclingnews extends its condolences to the family and friends of Pinarello.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andrea-pinarello-dies-after-heart-attack

Lemag

AstraMonti wrote: »

I had to deliberately crash yesterday just to demonstrate to Cpt Havoc why he needs to shave his legs :rolleyes:

Pics or GTFO

Here's mine from back in January

AstraMonti

Sorry no pics, do you want pics of my missing skin though? :P

Lemag

AstraMonti wrote: »

Sorry no pics, do you want pics of my missing skin though? :P

Eh,... probably not. Unless you've got something interesting going on in the background...

AstraMonti

Idea for a prank: If you don't have kids, call a babysitter, tell her that the kid is upstairs sleeping and it's not to be bothered. Go out for a drink. Come back and ask where your kid is. Enjoy.

Captain Havoc

Mountain biking tomorrow anyone?

Cookie_Monster

AstraMonti wrote: »

Idea for a prank: If you don't have kids, call a babysitter, tell her that the kid is upstairs sleeping and it's not to be bothered. Go out for a drink. Come back and ask where your kid is. Enjoy.

ah, a variation of the "McCann" trick

Khannie

The tax man wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PqTlvfavM

madness. I take it that wasn't you?

Thought there was going to be a fight. There would have been if I were the cyclist. :pac: Wouldn't have just hoped that the guy was going to calm down enough not to start hitting me as soon as he reached me.

Lemag

Khannie wrote: »

Thought there was going to be a fight. There would have been if I were the cyclist. :pac:

Have you ever tried fighting whilst wearing cleats

Khannie

Lemag wrote: »

Have you ever tried fighting whilst wearing cleats

No but given all these videos it's enough of a consideration for me to go for spd's next time around.

I honestly would have assumed that the angry crazy was going to hit me in that video though and cleat or no cleat I would have been off my bike to try and defend myself there. Unfortunately for me it seems that would have been the wrong thing to do.

Rovi

Lemag wrote: »

Have you ever tried fighting whilst wearing cleats

Bertie doesn't even stop pedalling! :

Lemag

Khannie wrote: »

I honestly would have assumed that the angry crazy was going to hit me in that video though and cleat or no cleat I would have been off my bike to try and defend myself there. Unfortunately for me it seems that would have been the wrong thing to do.

With a winter trainer maybe but I'd probably rather take a punch in the face than have to hastily place my carbon bike on the ground

The tax man

Khannie wrote: »

madness. I take it that wasn't you?

No,thank god.

Cookie_Monster

Yay, last day in work

buffalo

So I've worked out that Vladimir Kurtains is el tonto, which takes away a lot of my confusion. When did that happen?

Idleater

buffalo wrote: »

When did that happen?

Well it took him longer to change the avatar so I guessed when I saw that this morning

Beasty

buffalo wrote: »

When did that happen?

Just before 7:41 this morning;)

RobFowl

buffalo wrote: »

So I've worked out that Vladimir Kurtains is el tonto, which takes away a lot of my confusion. When Why did that happen?

FYP

Chips Lovell

buffalo wrote: »

So I've worked out that Vladimir Kurtains is el tonto, which takes away a lot of my confusion. When did that happen?

RobFowl wrote: »

FYP

A change is as good as a rest. It was either that or Vladimir Car Parts, which I might go for further down the line.

Beasty

Anyone have any other suggestions for Vlad's next moniker?:D

Chips Lovell

The always excellent Philip Gourevitch has a piece about the Rwandan national cycling squad in the New Yorker that's well worth a read.

Jawgap

Boogady.........boogady.........boogady.......

Until there's a prayer like this before every bike race and every sporitve, cycling will never be truly mainstream........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74y88YuSJ8

Sr. Assumpta

Beasty wrote: »

Anyone have any other suggestions for Vlad's next moniker?:D

'Vlad The Derailleur'

tomasrojo

Hmm. This isn't all that surprising, but this sort of distortion shouldn't be permitted, even under the guise of entertainment. I'm not surprised the electric car manufacturers are suing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/aug/05/top-gear-bbc

Last Sunday, an episode of Top Gear showed Jeremy Clarkson and James May setting off for Cleethorpes in Lincolnshire, 60 miles away. The car unexpectedly ran out of charge when they got to Lincoln, and had to be pushed. They concluded that "electric cars are not the future".

But it wasn't unexpected: Nissan has a monitoring device in the car which transmits information on the state of the battery. This shows that, while the company delivered the car to Top Gear fully charged, the programme-makers ran the battery down before Clarkson and May set off, until only 40% of the charge was left. Moreover, they must have known this, as the electronic display tells the driver how many miles' worth of electricity they have, and the sat-nav tells them if they don't have enough charge to reach their destination. In this case it told them – before they set out on their 60-mile journey – that they had 30 miles' worth of electricity. But, as Ben Webster of the Times reported earlier this week, "at no point were viewers told that the battery had been more than half empty at the start of the trip."

It gets worse. As Webster points out, in order to stage a breakdown in Lincoln, "it appeared that the Leaf was driven in loops for more than 10 miles in Lincoln until the battery was flat."

AstraMonti

The minute I started watching the last episode I was sure that they are going to bury these electric cars. The companies should know better though,they are a bunch of petrolheads what did they expect, a valid review? Top Gear is a nice show if you know what are you watching, a comedy program about cars. They are not really reviewing anything, they are just having fun with cars, fair enough though I am jealous. On the other hand I do agree, they should pay more attention on what they are doing since they are the no1.

Lumen

tomasrojo wrote: »

Hmm. This isn't all that surprising, but this sort of distortion shouldn't be permitted, even under the guise of entertainment.

It's a car-themed light entertainment show, not a documentary. It is common knowledge that the Top Gear features are largely fabricated.

In any case, the details don't matter. The overall message was true - electric cars are currently not suitable for intercity journeys unless you plan an overnight stop.

It's hardly surprising that the self-righteous champagne communists at the Guardian got wound up about it. :pac:

Chips Lovell

I'm actually really gutted about this. I loved Top Gear.

thebouldwhacker

Lumen wrote: »

It is common knowledge that the Top Gear features are largely fabricated.

I would have to disagree with this, many of their 'experiments' while fanciful and comedic are non the less displayed to emphasise a point, I think the majority of people take what they see on Top Gear to be the serious opinion of the Top Gear Team & by association the BBC's opinion. It is hard to find the entertainment behind the notion that an electric car would fail such a driving test. While I'm not one for conspiracy theories (and it could easily be as simply as Clarkson personally deciding to trash the name of electric cars) they knew that by airing it that it would effect public opinion. Perhaps just a little but just enough to add another straw to the camels back.

Lumen wrote: »

It's hardly surprising that the self-righteous champagne communists at the Guardian got wound up about it. :pac:

A bit harsh......

AstraMonti

Short and funny story. When I crashed I called my non-cycling-geek girlfriend to tell her and her first question was: "Was it with the new bike?". I think I did well!



Have a nice august all, I am off to holidays

tomasrojo

Lumen wrote: »

In any case, the details don't matter. The overall message was true - electric cars are currently not suitable for intercity journeys unless you plan an overnight stop.

The problem is that, while that point would be correct, they implicitly made the point that this brand of electric car is unable to reliably complete a journey of 60 miles, which is completely false. In fact, the gauge estimate of how many miles they could complete on the battery charge was conservative (since they didn't run out of charge when they wanted to), which is commendable.

They could have had their bit of comedy while highlighting deficiencies the car actually possesses.

Not something I feel that strongly about, except that I find lying under the disguise of humour to be disturbing and dishonest (anyone see Stewart Lee's DVD where he made up a comically inadequate response by Russell Brand to the Shilpa Shetty dust-up and presented it as if Russell Brand actually said it?).

Khannie

Lumen wrote: »

In any case, the details don't matter.

Garbage. Details matter. Peoples jobs are on the line. They lied their asses off. Public opinion will be negatively affected by what it sounds like was presented as a possible / likely event but in fact would never happen.

Must get my hands on this episode, though I think clarkson is an absolute twat .

Lusk Doyle

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

serious opinion of the Top Gear Team & by association the BBC's opinion

Top gear ain't serious. I'm sure that the beeb don't share the "serious" opinion of top gear as shown in the recent episodes with Albania (mob) and Italy (police).

RobFowl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkexapnTVJE

Murph100

Jeeeeeeeeesus effin' H, I'd forgotten how much I HATE Rickenbackers !! :mad:

Dermot Illogical

Icyseanfitz

when did this new season of top gear start? i always end up missing them

Captain Havoc

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

when did this new season of top gear start? i always end up missing them

They sandwhich the seasons between X-Factor and Britains Got Talent.

Khannie

Just watched Chasing Legends. Thoroughly enjoyable stuff.

Icyseanfitz

Captain Havoc wrote: »

They sandwhich the seasons between X-Factor and Britains Got Talent.

which helps me not at all as both shows hold about as much interest for me as a........ "insert really boring thing" i take it tonight's show is new yeah?

Captain Havoc

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

which helps me not at all as both shows hold about as much interest for me as a........ "insert really boring thing" i take it tonight's show is new yeah?

Therer isn't one tonight and I only know about the season thing because Clarkson was on about it last week.

Icyseanfitz

have to catch up on Season 17 so, always miss them feck it

thebouldwhacker

AstraMonti wrote: »

When I crashed I called my non-cycling-geek girlfriend to tell her and her first question was: "Was it with the new bike?". I think I did well!

My GF just changed the bar tape on my road bike, I feel we have reached a new level in our relationship


I'm the luckiest man alive.

Dubba

Khannie wrote: »

Just watched Chasing Legends. Thoroughly enjoyable stuff.

Any link for a online source to watch this Khannie?

Lemag

Captain Havoc wrote: »

They sandwhich the seasons between X-Factor and Britains Got Talent.

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Therer isn't one tonight and I only know about the season thing because Clarkson was on about it last week.

Sheesh, yeah right

cdaly_

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

My GF just changed the bar tape on my road bike, I feel we have reached a new level in our relationship

"You never clean the bathroom and you'd never think of changing your bartape. I always have to do it... :mad:






;)

Khannie

Dubba wrote: »

Any link for a online source to watch this Khannie?

Not aware of any, sorry.

petethedrummer

tomasrojo wrote: »

(anyone see Stewart Lee's DVD where he made up a comically inadequate response by Russell Brand to the Shilpa Shetty dust-up and presented it as if Russell Brand actually said it?).

Noone could believe that made up Russell Brand quote was real. And if they did, its a sad indictment of Brand, not Lee.

http://youtu.be/PdByz1AsHT4#t=1m45

tomasrojo

RobFowl wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkexapnTVJE

Sounds a little bit like a sped-up version of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvvDyBoyMQ

EDIT: Ah, I see that Andy Partridge of XTC co-wrote the Pugwash song, and wrote Summer's Cauldron. Neatly explains a few similarities!

tomasrojo

petethedrummer wrote: »

Noone could believe that made up Russell Brand quote was real. And if they did, its a sad indictment of Brand, not Lee.

http://youtu.be/PdByz1AsHT4#t=1m45

I've heard that argument alright, but Lee reads a statement from a piece of paper from the Carphone Warehouse -- it's real -- then one from Martin Luther King -- clearly real and well-known -- and then reads a statement ostensibly from Brand in exactly the same manner, and audience guffaws at how ludicrous Brand is. Except Brand didn't say it. It's all very well to say that the audience should know that the statement is so ludicrous it isn't real, but if Brand is so ludicrous, why couldn't Lee find an actual quote that was bad enough to make the audience laugh?

And the you get this as a DVD extra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG9wZ73YWGk&feature=related

Really weird stuff. Some now argue that this is clearly a spoof, and Lee isn't embarrassed at being caught out.

This type of meta-humour is beyond me, I think.