The Broomwagon (off topic chat)

Crow92

QI said studies showed that when seatbelts were made complusory, the death of cyclists rose because of risk compensation, when you think you safer you take more risks so drivers began to drive more recklessly.

CramCycle

Crow92 wrote: »

QI said studies showed that when seatbelts were made complusory, the death of cyclists rose because of risk compensation, when you think you safer you take more risks so drivers began to drive more recklessly.

It could probably be argued that seatbelts were made compulsory as car numbers rose dramatically and as the technology behind the average persons car rose dramatically enough to make speeding easier and more affordable which in turn lead to increased risk of death to cyclists.

abcdggs

Does anyone out there have the planet x external bearing track chainset??

If so could i possibly borrow the preload cap to fit mine??

Thanks in advance

ednwireland

Crow92 wrote: »

QI said studies showed that when seatbelts were made complusory, the death of cyclists rose because of risk compensation, when you think you safer you take more risks so drivers began to drive more recklessly.

there should be no windscreens and no safety aids (hoogerland doesnt need curtain air bags) actually when your cocooned in a modern car easy to forget anything outside

tomasrojo

Crow92 wrote: »

QI said studies showed that when seatbelts were made complusory, the death of cyclists rose because of risk compensation, when you think you safer you take more risks so drivers began to drive more recklessly.

Cyclists and pedestrians.

Also, some of the triumphant claims made about the seatbelt laws in the UK are rather bogus. (Not that they saved car-occupant lives -- which is probably a fair claim -- but that they saved about two thousand a year every year ).

http://www.john-adams.co.uk/2009/10/16/final-open-letter-to-executive-director-of-pacts/

I believe that I have established:

a. that the claim that seat belts have saved 60000 lives since the implementation of the seat belt law is nonsense, and

b. that it is your (PACTS’) view that a measure that could be demonstrated to save the lives of motorists would be OK so long as the number of vulnerable road users killed as a result is smaller. I pressed you on this point in open letters 2 and 3 and you have not, as yet, denied it.

John Adams has been going on about this since the eighties. He might be wrong, but it seems either his opponents are not interested in or else they are incapable of debunking his arguments.

ThisRegard

Meanwhile over in the Roads forum
http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056353004

Captain Havoc

Oh dear:

CramCycle

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Oh dear:

I know, hipsters claiming rights, the sooner we are rid of them the better.

Captain Havoc

Spin Carlow, 18h00 today anyone?

Chips Lovell

Hermy

^ ^
New shoes???

Crow92

Can anyone tell me what x9 aluminium is?

Jawgap

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Needs a caption such as......

"Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

TinyExplosions

Crow92 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what x9 aluminium is?

It's a silvery white member of the boron group of chemical elements. It has the symbol Al, and its atomic number is 13. It is not soluble in water under normal circumstances.

But seriously, it's just a certain alloy of Aluminium, and so nothing important really.

mfdc

Despite listening to this song for years, I've only just realised that Major Tom kills himself! Holy ****... amazed that I was able to completely miss the point for so long.

Hermy

@mfdc
Spoiler tags for the love of god!

tomasrojo

Ah, but in Ashes to Ashes,

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1517/was-major-tom-the-astronaut-a-real-person

some time after the disappearance of Major Tom, ground control receives a message from the wayward astronaut: "I'm happy, hope you're happy, too. I've loved all I've needed to love." The opinion on earth is that Major Tom is a "junkie strung out in heaven's high," but hitting "an all-time low."

CramCycle

^^^I just thought he was a heroin addict, what did i miss?

tomasrojo

CramCycle wrote: »

^^^I just thought he was a heroin addict, what did i miss?

Philip Larkin, the rather conservative and early Jazz-obsessed poet, gave Highway 61 Revisited a surprisingly positive review in The Daily Telegraph, that concluded with the wise words:

There is a marathon 'Desolation Row' which has an enchanting tune and mysterious, possibly half-baked words.

I think the same caveat applies here.

Captain Havoc

Philly Larkin?????


Kilkenny hurling is poetry in motion.

Hermy

CramCycle

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Philly Larkin?????


Kilkenny hurling is poetry in motion.

The sort of poetry that involves hitting men off the ball when their not getting their own way for a change:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU8uOhhLh4E

tomasrojo

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Philly Larkin?????


Kilkenny hurling is poetry in motion.

More like this:



As you can tell, he did like cycling. In Church Going, when he enters an old church:

Hatless, I take off
My cycle-clips in awkward reverence.

Jawgap

Are Dublin now the best dual county?

In answering this I'm particularly interested in comments from Cork :D

Lusk Doyle

Jawgap wrote: »

Are Dublin now the best dual county?

In answering this I'm particularly interested in comments from Cork :D

In theory, Cork are a republic. In theory :rolleyes:

Of course, communism also works, in theory....

Captain Havoc

Jawgap wrote: »

Are Dublin now the best dual county?

In answering this I'm particularly interested in comments from Cork :D

No, just no.

Jawgap

Captain Havoc wrote: »

No, just no.

you can't deny the evidence - anyway, what would a Kilkenny man know about football??

Captain Havoc

Jawgap wrote: »

you can't deny the evidence - anyway, what would a Kilkenny man know about football??

Evidence is completely against you, if tally up the amount of league and All-Irelands in both codes over the last ten years Kilkenny have 11 Dublin have 1, therefore it could be argued that Kilkenny are a better dual county than Dublin.

TinyExplosions

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Evidence is completely against you, if tally up the amount of league and All-Irelands in both codes over the last ten years Kilkenny have 11 Dublin have 1, therefore it could be argued that Kilkenny are a better dual county than Dublin.

Folks, the silly games discussion page is thisaway, 410 is for talking about a real sport

Captain Havoc

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Folks, the silly games discussion page is thisaway, 410 is for talking about a real sport

Did you know cycling used to be under the umbrella of the GAA?

Jawgap

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Evidence is completely against you, if tally up the amount of league and All-Irelands in both codes over the last ten years Kilkenny have 11 Dublin have 1, therefore it could be argued that Kilkenny are a better dual county than Dublin.

As I asked - are they now the best dual county - not the best ever, or even over the last five or ten years:)

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Did you know cycling used to be under the umbrella of the GAA?

Nice change of subject:D This was something I was aware of....(back when we had a velodrome!!).......

IRISH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

manwithaplan

If the question is just about 2011...

Dublin are all Ireland semi finalists in senior hurling, finalists in minor hurling and likely finalists at under 21.

They are also all Ireland semi finalists at minor and senior football.

And they are national league champions in hurling and national league finalists in football.

In short, the answer is yes.

bcmf

Well the question will only be truly answered come the 3rd Sun in Sept (where hopefully the dubs will be in Croker)
Dublin hurling has come a monster of a distance with Daly and the hurlers achieving more this year with the inclusion of Rhino and Keany since they made the switch from football. It would have been interesting to see how they would have played and handled Tipp yest with a full strenght squad.
WRT the footballers Sun week is a must win game if Dublin football is to overcome the monkey that is AI semi's.
If Dub take Donegal and Kerry take Mayo ,whether you are into GAA or not, the country will be buzzing in anticapation of the final and there will be no getting away from it.

Squidgy Black

bcmf wrote: »

Well the question will only be truly answered come the 3rd Sun in Sept (where hopefully the dubs will be in Croker)
Dublin hurling has come a monster of a distance with Daly and the hurlers achieving more this year with the inclusion of Rhino and Keany since they made the switch from football. It would have been interesting to see how they would have played and handled Tipp yest with a full strenght squad.
WRT the footballers Sun week is a must win game if Dublin football is to overcome the monkey that is AI semi's.
If Dub take Donegal and Kerry take Mayo ,whether you are into GAA or not, the country will be buzzing in anticapation of the final and there will be no getting away from it.

But you can hardly just put this development down to Daly, look at the performances from the minor team and the u21's this year. The county board have finally realised there's amazing underage talent in dublin hurling and decided to put more effort into preserving and improving this, I've seen this first hand this year.

And on the subject of Cormac Costello, ive been playing with him since I was around 8, and I've always said he's one to watch. He'll tear apart any minor defence next year, this is only his first year for the minor team.

bcmf

stetyrrell wrote: »

But you can hardly just put this development down to Daly, look at the performances from the minor team and the u21's this year. The county board have finally realised there's amazing underage talent in dublin hurling and decided to put more effort into preserving and improving this, I've seen this first hand this year.

And on the subject of Cormac Costello, ive been playing with him since I was around 8, and I've always said he's one to watch. He'll tear apart any minor defence next year, this is only his first year for the minor team.

Wont dissagree with ya as i am usually just interested in the football end of things.

ednwireland

Anyone watch concrete circus on ch4

Johnners1878

Concrete Circus was excellent though I only caught the last 20 minutes of it - McAskill is fantastic on the bike but the freerunner was just amazing... Great film-making.

Captain Havoc

Is it me or is internet dating the most soul destroying activity in the universe?

TinyExplosions

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Is it me or is internet dating the most soul destroying activity in the universe?

It's just you

Sr. Assumpta

ednwireland wrote: »

Anyone watch concrete circus on ch4

I did my best, however after the 4,000th ad-break I lost the will to live.

tomasrojo

Is it just me, or does anyone else find that people get really weird if you follow them up a ladder?

TinyExplosions

tomasrojo wrote: »

Is it just me, or does anyone else find that people get really weird if you follow them up a ladder?

It's just you

CramCycle

tomasrojo wrote: »

Is it just me, or does anyone else find that people get really weird if you follow them up a ladder?

What are you saying/holding/doing as you follow them up a ladder? Are you meant to be following them up it or did you just see someone climbing a ladder, run over and follow them up?

One of those situations might be construed as grounds for making someone uncomfortable.

tomasrojo

CramCycle wrote: »

What are you saying/holding/doing as you follow them up a ladder? Are you meant to be following them up it or did you just see someone climbing a ladder, run over and follow them up?

One of those situations might be construed as grounds for making someone uncomfortable.

Ah, it was just something I heard someone say, implying the last option, I thought. I thought it was funny.

thebouldwhacker

I think ladders are not one of our natural habitats so we as a species lose all sense of social norms if we find ourselves in the situation where more than one person is on a ladder at any one time.

My first experience of this was when I was 15 and a girl I thought was cute started to climb a ladder and after she was up a few steps i began to climb. Well she was wearing a skirt and the rest of this story tells its self really.....

I was more embarrassed than her, my awkward teenage self didn't know what to do as she let a scream out but when a friend assured her that I was not up to mischief, but simply was next in line, and as she was wearing a skirt really should have waited to go up last, she forgave me.

Ladders eh, strange places.....

CramCycle

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

.... I was not up to mischief.....

I call SHENANIGANS :pac:

ednwireland

danny mcaskill video that was on CH4 last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI

Chips Lovell

Leif Hoste has a tear in his brain. :eek:

CramCycle

WTF????

Despite the nature of the problem, he is optimistic that it can be sorted out. “They treat me with blood patches, which they inject my own blood in my spinal cord,” he said. If that doesn’t work, he stated that he might be subjected to an operation through his nose.

Optimistic isn't the way I'd feel about it

Chips Lovell

Look who's winning again.

P.S. Don't click if you plan on watching the Tre Valli Varesine tonight.