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  • 29-09-2009 1:46pm
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    average_runner
    Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭


    Alot of my friends that voted NO in the last campaign are now voting Yes.
    COIR really making it easy for yes campaign.


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    As much as I like to hear that people are voting Yes, I'd rather they read the treaty and chose to vote No based on it's contents, than voting Yes out of spite. This entire referendom is a shambles.


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    average_runner
    Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Well its not out of spite, its because they had doubts last time and now after the stupid things COIR has said, they believe the NO campaign is all lies!
    In fairness YES campaighn probably is too, since non of the sides actually address the treaty properly


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    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    average_runner wrote: »
    Alot of my friends that voted NO in the last campaign are now voting Yes.
    COIR really making it easy for yes campaign.
    Most of my friends that voted yes the last time have now decided to vote NO because they want to get the Government out. :p


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Most of my friends that voted yes the last time have now decided to vote NO because they want to get the Government out. :p
    As I said, the referendom is a shambles.


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    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Most of my friends that voted yes the last time have now decided to vote NO because they want to get the Government out. :p

    "Voting no just to piss off the Government is almost like saying okay mister, you're after punching me so the best way to get you back is to punch myself in the face." - Voltwad


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    #7
    Firefox10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Firefox10


    I am just after getting one of their "leaflets" in the door. I had to laugh at the picture on the front of it before chucking it in the bin.


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    Firefox10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Firefox10


    humanji wrote: »
    As I said, the referendom is a shambles.

    I agree. it's seems like any mature debate about treaty has gone out the window and is now just a crazy mud slinging match. People need to put what's best for the country above all else at the moment.


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    turgon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Yesterday we got three leaflets at once from a canvasser (delivered without knocking) - two Coir leaflets and a novena thing advertising some rosary being said in a cathedral this coming week. See how they try and mix in the Christian thing with their No campaign? The massive irony being that of all the campaign groups they are acting the least Christian of them all.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Firefox10 wrote: »
    I agree. it's seems like any mature debate about treaty has gone out the window and is now just a crazy mud slinging match.

    Thanks to Coir the mud is slinging, but thanks to Daz my whites are coming up whiter than white!

    This election has been a bad one for those what think up posters.


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    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Coir (and to a certain extent Libertas) are utterly destroying their cause and I for one wish they'd shut the hell up. There are plenty of reasons to oppose the treaty without having to invent lies which end up turning people against that side. So ****ing stupid.


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    Euro_Kraut
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Coir (and to a certain extent Libertas) are utterly destroying their cause and I for one wish they'd shut the hell up. There are plenty of reasons to oppose the treaty without having to invent lies which end up turning people against that side. So ****ing stupid.

    I agree with you. SF and the Socialists are easy the most respectable of the NO side. I don't agree with their analysis but they have not reported to the outright deception of Coir and Libertas.

    Also the likes of Jim Corr are hardly helpful.


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    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    I agree with you. SF and the Socialists are easy the most respectable of the NO side. I don't agree with their analysis but they have not reported to the outright deception of Coir and Libertas.

    Also the likes of Jim Corr are hardly helpful.

    Haven't SF?

    Their posters:
    Perpetuate the voting weight myth
    Claim Lisbon will 'crush family farms'
    Claim Lisbon will bring in lower wages

    Where's the justification?


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    vanla sighs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭vanla sighs


    average_runner wrote: »
    Well its not out of spite, its because they had doubts last time and now after the stupid things COIR has said, they believe the NO campaign is all lies!
    In fairness YES campaighn probably is too, since non of the sides actually address the treaty properly

    So, let me get this right.......your friends who you said voted No previously and are going to vote yes because of COIR and what they and, I presume, you, percieve as lies.......yet you then go onto say that the yes side are lying too.......is that about the jist of it?.....:rolleyes:

    And since when does COIR represent everyone on the No side, it doesn't, COIR representS one element of the No side just as FF represents one element of the yes side.........while you and others may not like COIR, there are many, many folks out there who don't like FF. :)


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    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Coir (and to a certain extent Libertas) are utterly destroying their cause and I for one wish they'd shut the hell up. There are plenty of reasons to oppose the treaty without having to invent lies which end up turning people against that side. So ****ing stupid.

    Without their intervention last time around, it seems likely that we would have voted yes.

    Without their intervention this time, the likelihood of a yes vote would be even greater than it now is.


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    CCCP^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    average_runner wrote: »
    Alot of my friends that voted NO in the last campaign are now voting Yes.
    COIR really making it easy for yes campaign.

    You have extremely fickle friends.


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    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    You have extremely fickle friends.

    well i'm extremely p*ssed off with coir. what planet are they on they are doing serious damage to the no camp as i can tell for the moment. i hope people don't swing over to the yes side because of the coir problem vote for what you believe is right but not because of this.


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    CCCP^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    zenno wrote: »
    well i'm extremely p*ssed off with coir. what planet are they on they are doing serious damage to the no camp as i can tell for the moment. i hope people don't swing over to the yes side because of the coir problem vote for what you believe is right but not because of this.

    I haven't let either side, the Yes or No campaign, influence my decision. Your friends should educate themselves on this treaty and for them, come to the right decision. For me, that's No, but it doesn't have anything to do with these clowns.


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    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    I haven't let either side, the Yes or No campaign, influence my decision. Your friends should educate themselves on this treaty and for them, come to the right decision. For me, that's No, but it doesn't have anything to do with these clowns.

    well to be honest my friends are well knowledgeable on the treaty i can assure you. i think you got me mixed up with average-runner


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    Euro_Kraut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Haven't SF?

    Their posters:
    Perpetuate the voting weight myth
    Claim Lisbon will 'crush family farms'
    Claim Lisbon will bring in lower wages

    Where's the justification?

    Still makes them more respectable than others on the NO side. Personally I think that speaks volumes for the quality of the NO campaign.

    Though after seeing the Shinners refusing to let Mark Durkan and Eamonn Gilmore speak today at their press conference I am starting to think that Patrica McKenna is infant to only reasonable NO proponent left.


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