Accidents last night

Head The Wall · 01-10-2009 10:33pm

Adalynn Slimy Leper wrote: »

How do you know it was a homemade trailer with no brakes and a big tractor would be just as good as a truck for pulling the boat!!

I hate all the rubbish about permits and flouting the law. Do it and say nothing is the best option imo. But dont get stuck under a bridge.

If you say the trailer my friends yacht was on when I moved it with the tractor for them a few months back you would have had a heart attack !!

I have eyes, I was there when they were moving it out to Salthill. It was a homemade trailer with no brakes so it wasn't road worthy. I'm sure the boat you moved wasn't 70 foot long and 18 foot wide. Big difference

AdamantApproach wrote: »

What is a home made trailer? All modern trailers have braking valves. Certainly anything capable of holding a load that size would have massive braking power. I'd imagine that a tractor and low loader trailer would be the best option for moving something like this.

You don't know what you are talking about. Do you think there isn't specialised equipment for this kind of work. If there was proper equipment used for this load they wouldn't have got caught in the bridge because they wouldn't have to take that route to get to where they were going.

A proper trailer for a load that size would have steering axles on the trailer to help it get around corners and the load could be raised up or down to negotiate obstacles e.g kerbs or bridges

It would also be operated by people that know what they are at

Madame Razz wrote: »

That said I was a bit surprised, given that it was the Green Dragon, that she wasn't on a trailer and truck.

I'll post the pics later if that's ok to do so???

That's exactly the point, it looks so retarded. The pinnacle of marine sailing technology and "the backwards Irish Solution"

JohnCleary · 02-10-2009 3:24am

Adalynn Slimy Leper wrote: »

I hate all the rubbish about permits and flouting the law. Do it and say nothing is the best option imo

Have you any idea what a libius country we've living in? In the event of an accident (god forbid), an insurance company will look for ANY excuse not to pay out. In that event, poor oul Johnny Tractor Driver will get stung, be sued, lose his license, house etc. etc. - this happened a few years ago in the Midlands with a farmer pulling horses (PM me for link)

AdamantApproach wrote: »

What is a home made trailer? All modern trailers have braking valves. Certainly anything capable of holding a load that size would have massive braking power. I'd imagine that a tractor and low loader trailer would be the best option for moving something like this.

A home made trailer is a trailer made at home, duh :pac: ie. not CE certified. Do your own flippin' research on the consequences in the event of a claim

JohnCleary · 02-10-2009 3:28am

Head The Wall wrote: »

A proper trailer for a load that size would have steering axles on the trailer to help it get around corners and the load could be raised up or down to negotiate obstacles e.g kerbs or bridges

It would also be operated by people that know what they are at

+100000000000......

I was looking at how to move the (next) boat. Basicly, (unless I get the machinary, spare time, experience, qualifications) I have to get a chap in, with a big flippin' load of machinary who knows what he's at to be able to legally move my machinary; a pain in the hole but better than being sued for everything (very little :cool:) that I own, rather than the insruance company having to pay out

02-10-2009 9:47am

Head The Wall wrote: »

I have eyes, I was there when they were moving it out to Salthill. It was a homemade trailer with no brakes so it wasn't road worthy. I'm sure the boat you moved wasn't 70 foot long and 18 foot wide. Big difference

True it was only about 35 foot long. But the trailer really was a homemade one in this instance.

JohnCleary wrote: »

Have you any idea what a libius country we've living in? In the event of an accident (god forbid), an insurance company will look for ANY excuse not to pay out. In that event, poor oul Johnny Tractor Driver will get stung, be sued, lose his license, house etc. etc. - this happened a few years ago in the Midlands with a farmer pulling horses (PM me for link)

I suppose I'm so used to moving big and some times dodgy loads now between the farm and working for a builder for a few summers that it is the norm for me.

I remember the brake hose on the lowloader split one summer and I spent about 2 months moving machines (15 to 20 tonnes at times) building supplies and scaffolding with no trailer brakes. It just took a bit of getting used to.

Maybe its the mentality out the county where everybody has the load it up to the last and away ya go attitude.

JohnCleary · 02-10-2009 9:58am

Adalynn Slimy Leper wrote: »

I remember the brake hose on the lowloader split one summer and I spent about 2 months moving machines (15 to 20 tonnes at times) building supplies and scaffolding with no trailer brakes. It just took a bit of getting used to.

Maybe its the mentality out the county where everybody has the load it up to the last and away ya go attitude.

I'm not denying that it can't be done; you're dead right... heavy loads can be driven but it just takes getting used to. Trailering is fine, it's the stopping that's the problem

However, highly illegal, but in this country we seem to get away with it. I blame an un-educated law enforcement system... the cops genuinly don't have a clue about the laws they're supposed to be enforcing. Try that in the UK and you'll lose your licence. However, in fairness, the Traffic Corps *are* getting more aware.

Chances are you'll get away with it, but it's not a chance i'd be willing to take. It's always a case of "What if"

02-10-2009 10:18am

JohnCleary wrote: »

Trailering is fine, it's the stopping that's the problem

Thats for sure

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You are completely in the right of course I'm not arguing my point at all as I know I'm in the wrong. I was just saying how(as you know yourself) its the done thing in this country so I'm not surprised the situation was the same for green dragon. Not knowing the load vs bridge height was completely ridiculous though.

dloob · 02-10-2009 10:36am

JohnCleary wrote: »

+100000000000......

I was looking at how to move the (next) boat. Basicly, (unless I get the machinary, spare time, experience, qualifications) I have to get a chap in, with a big flippin' load of machinary who knows what he's at to be able to legally move my machinary; a pain in the hole but better than being sued for everything (very little :cool:) that I own, rather than the insruance company having to pay out

I imagine it's also better than getting your boat smacked into a bridge Green Dragon style.:D

muskyj · 02-10-2009 11:16am

didn't want to start a new thread.
heard on galway bay fm this morning that a traffic light had been taken out by some car last night. didn't catch where in the city. just wondering if anyone has seen/got photos of it.

JohnCleary · 02-10-2009 11:26am

So does anyone have any pics of the Green Dragon... stuck

Madame Razz · 02-10-2009 11:33am

I just have one of it on the trailer; I will post this later on; I just have to load up the image onto my computer.

A stuck foto would be really cool tho...