Berget 8 - 2010

OzCam

horgan_p wrote: »

That poor baby is in for an awful shouting to when it gets born because of this

I doubt it. More likely is that baby's parents are in for a Maximum Earbashing every time s/he needs feeding or changing

TheDoc

Downtime, that is clearly not what most were craving during and after.

The randyness going on was astronomical.

I think the best advice is get your lady for 24 hours solid before you go, because spending 5 days with a bunch of lads, dirty, unclean and knee deep in ****, puts things into perspective....

I'll literally go with whatever the majority is going, I'd like to go as a section command again, or higher if possible, run some larp.

The firefights and operations were not the highlight of this thing for me, the checkpoint was freaking awesome.

I'm starting to like the idea of being a sneaky bastard and just wrecking someones buzz...hit n runs on checkpoints and bases

So whatever team sound the biggest buzz wreckers

gerrowadat

Psyops for me, I think.

I'd say they'll go in the first round of tickets, so get in early (only 100 tix)

TheDoc

Yeah, I'm in, Psyops, first round of tickets, pistols and mp7 and **** loads of 5.11 gear...and my suit...

Skatedude

Doc, sounds like psyops would suit you, get to have fun with the prisoners as well as sneak attacks and plently of larp but in uniform and in civvies

senordingdong

gerrowadat wrote: »

Psyops for me, I think.

I'd say they'll go in the first round of tickets, so get in early (only 100 tix)

Jesus, 100!?!

No pressure!

Lemming

senordingdong wrote: »

Jesus, 100!?!

No pressure!

Add to the mix that the first batch of tickets are limited to a four hour window (apparently). Doesn't say how many tickets are available for that window though as far as I can tell.

The counterpart to poldovian psyops - being the captured NAF forces - has even less places available. Only 50.

Gonna be a bit of a mad scramble alright I think. First batch of tickets are also discounted at €88 per ticket. Next band up is €118

spicymchaggis

this thread reminds me, what airlines allow transport of airsoft guns and is there any rules surrounding it?

deepimpact

spicymchaggis wrote: »

this thread reminds me, what airlines allow transport of airsoft guns and is there any rules surrounding it?

One word, well acronym. SAS. By far the best and most convenient airline for transport of airsoft equipment.

Had an *ahem* issue on the return journey, and SAS were by far the most accomodating airline for transportation. Air France/KLM wanted me to get written permission from the embassy to transport my kit back ffs.

You'll need a lockable case like a Stormcase or a rugged flight case that can withstand the beating dished out by the baggage handlers/throwers. Then you'll have to pay for the extra equipment (20 euro-ish each way and allows for an extra 20kg kit along with one checked bag).

gerrowadat

spicymchaggis wrote: »

this thread reminds me, what airlines allow transport of airsoft guns and is there any rules surrounding it?

http://irishairsoft.ie/?page_id=932

gerrowadat

scanlant wrote: »

One word, well acronym. SAS. By far the best and most convenient airline for transport of airsoft equipment.

Had an *ahem* issue on the return journey, and SAS were by far the most accomodating airline for transportation. Air France/KLM wanted me to get written permission from the embassy to transport my kit back ffs.

You'll need a lockable case like a Stormcase or a rugged flight case that can withstand the beating dished out by the baggage handlers/throwers. Then you'll have to pay for the extra equipment (20 euro-ish each way and allows for an extra 20kg kit along with one checked bag).

The checked baggage charge was more like 35 each way, but it allowed for 30kg of kit.

spicymchaggis

cheers for the info

senordingdong

scanlant wrote: »

One word, well acronym. SAS. By far the best and most convenient airline for transport of airsoft equipment.

Had an *ahem* issue on the return journey, and SAS were by far the most accomodating airline for transportation. Air France/KLM wanted me to get written permission from the embassy to transport my kit back ffs.

You'll need a lockable case like a Stormcase or a rugged flight case that can withstand the beating dished out by the baggage handlers/throwers. Then you'll have to pay for the extra equipment (20 euro-ish each way and allows for an extra 20kg kit along with one checked bag).

Wait, what happened on your return flight???

Lemming

scanlant wrote: »

One word, well acronym. SAS. By far the best and most convenient airline for transport of airsoft equipment.

Not to mention about the most hassle-free too when you're booking. The price you get quoted is the price that you pay when you move to the next screen. Ryan-air they are thankfully not. The prices are inclusive of baggage allowances and the like (extra payment for 'sports equipment' not withstanding).

One thing; a couple of people seemed to be getting quoted nutty prices from the website (Doc I think?) until we figured out that depending on which SAS site you go to you'll get different prices. Always use SAS.se (selecting english of course) to get the lowest prices.

spicymchaggis

what were the average return flight costs for people last year? did a mock one there and its close to the 500 euro mark, that about right?

Lemming

spicymchaggis wrote: »

what were the average return flight costs for people last year? did a mock one there and its close to the 500 euro mark, that about right?

Way off the mark. Circa €160/70 before added airsoft cases/baggage - round about the €200 mark once you're not leaving booking to the last minute or something.

edit:
Cursory glance: Mon 14 (or the prior Friday if you want the weekend) until Mon 21st at 1758 SEK which equates to €171 odd.

spicymchaggis

cheers i must have click something wrong, i tested it with the dates for berget

evilrobotshane

Oh, go on then. Just got a new job and it'd be a shame to waste it by saving up and getting a life.

I'm thinking Poldavian PsyOps too; I'm crap at airsoft but good at LARPing, and there's no way I'm buying desert camo or letting Gerrout and Doc go all Abu Ghraib on poor naked me.

deepimpact

senordingdong wrote: »

Wait, what happened on your return flight???

I was booked on the same flights (outward and return) as you and most of the other Irish guys.

Did anyone see me at the airport? Or boarding or deplaning in Dublin?

senordingdong

scanlant wrote: »

I was booked on the same flights (outward and return) as you and most of the other Irish guys.

Did anyone see me at the airport? Or boarding or deplaning in Dublin?

So what was the issue you had on your return journey?

deepimpact

senordingdong wrote: »

So what was the issue you had on your return journey?

No issue with boarding, just was exhausted and missed the shaggin flight. It cost me 800 euro to rebook and to cover 2 extra nights accomodation. I got 2 free cans of Coke though. Score.

senordingdong

scanlant wrote: »

No issue with boarding, just was exhausted and missed the shaggin flight.

Tadhg, you're ****ing confusing me now.
First you said you were on a flight with us then you said you missed your flight?

deepimpact

senordingdong wrote: »

Tadhg, you're ****ing confusing me now.
First you said you were on a flight with us then you said you missed your flight?

I was booked on the same return flight as you, but missed it (I was panned out on the bed).

Had to rebook and paid heavily for the **** up. Needless to say, I learned my lesson.

senordingdong

No way, and you weren't in the same hotel as us, were you?

I'm thinking this year we go straight to the game and do two or three days in Stockholm after the game.

deepimpact

senordingdong wrote: »

No way, and you weren't in the same hotel as us, were you?

*sigh* no. I was at the Radisson SAS at the airport (not the one in the airport, but that would have added extra fail) to boot. I woke at 9.48. The plane left at 9.50. Fail.

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Stop laughing down the back!

senordingdong

Jinkies, this is why I'm proposing we set more time aside between the end of the game and the flight home in order get a proper rest, and not run the risk of missing a flight.

deepimpact

senordingdong wrote: »

Jinkies, this is why I'm proposing we set more time aside between the end of the game and the flight home in order get a proper rest, and not run the risk of missing a flight.

It's also worth bearing in mind that nothing too severe happened me during the trip. I only missed a flight. I could have broken something during the event (believe me), or something else. It's all a matter of perspective. It's only money.

Would I do it all over again? Abso-****ing-lutely. Well, I'd probably get a wake-up call in the hotel, but otherwise I'd do it again.

senordingdong

I get what you're saying, but look at it in this perspective.

We got back to Stockholm in the afternoon, checked in, showered like we had been raped, went out for dinner, then had to get our gear ready for the an early departure.
Basically, we didn't get to bed too early, but were then up at five or six to catch the flight.

I would have murdered Doc to have stayed in bed for a further 24 hours.

OzCam

senordingdong wrote: »

Jinkies, this is why I'm proposing we set more time aside between the end of the game and the flight home in order get a proper rest, and not run the risk of missing a flight.

Seconded.

Maybe one day in Stockholm before, certainly not as much as last time.

Lemming

The reason for the flights as they were last time was not down to random choice. Those were the only viable direct flights (ergo. cheapest and most legally straightforward) available.

Dates as I recall were Flights out Sunday and Monday (at same price), Flight back on following Monday morning. The nex direct flight after that wasn't until Wednesday or Thursday if I recall.

You can go do extra days or do other times or whatnot; please just be aware that a) you'll most likely pay much more since you'll have to do changeovers and b) at risk of potential hassle & delays over transfer of airsoft kit.

It's your call (whoever "you" end up being); I'm just pointing out the possible ramifications.

TheDoc

I thought it was great craic

OzCam

Yeah, I forgot about the flights. It's all subject to price and availability, innit?

Lemming

TheDoc wrote: »

I thought it was great craic

Shame there was so much more we didn't get to see or do in Stockholm. When we arrived on Sunday, we were too late to take advantage of the tours around the waterways in ribs. Basically you get to p*ss about at high speed through Stockholm's waterways for a giggle. Yes please

OzCam wrote: »

Yeah, I forgot about the flights. It's all subject to price and availability, innit?

Yeah. The one bane of airsoft is international travel is not so straightforward. Anyone got a herc and a flight crew handy?

TheDoc

isnt it a different site this time, so depending on its location is stockholme still the destination?

senordingdong

While flights are a hassle I have to say that SAS weren't.

Doc, I'd say it's safe to assume that the gamezone will be accesible from Stockholm by some form of transport or another for the simple reason that there will be alot of people coming internationaly, and they would want to make it as easily accesible as possible.

Lemming

TheDoc wrote: »

isnt it a different site this time, so depending on its location is stockholme still the destination?

Was meant to be a different site this year too (further south) but equidistant in travel terms to the year previous.

TBH, the gamezone will be wherever they can get their hands on. But international flights mean that Stockholm is more than likely your landing point. Whilst you can fly into Sundsvall, no international flights are available from Ireland.

Skatedude

besides, the train is more comfortable and less hastle

OzCam

The intended site is in the "Vasternorrland area".

Assuming BE get the necessary permissions and it doesn't change between now and June, that's an hour and 20 minutes (100km) up the E4 from Sundsvall. It's 46km from Harnosand and 4km further to the nearest town. I could see someone popping down to the shops for a burger, but only if you were really hungry.

mcshape

Deffo gonna book this on the 31st!, Now, The quetsion i have is what teams are you planning on going for?, I would like to be playing with irish players i know if possible, Im also rocking out in MC so NAF Forces for me, Dont know if i want to play psiops for my first time, 5th Infantry looks good?

Cuddlesworth

Not coming this year. Need to save some cash.

gerrowadat

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Not coming this year. Need to save some cash.

Saving up to buy a hard case instead of a rucksack? Epic lolz.

gerrowadat

Any previous bergeteers ever taken SAS via Copenhagen? Flying out of Stockholm on tuesday instead of monday would be just lovely, but the only SAS flight is via CPH (Operated by SAS both legs).

Airsoft is kind of illegal in the Netherlands, so I'm assuming this is a big-no-no.

This basically means we're in the same boat as last year, with the options being getting up at stupid O'Clock on monday morning for a flight at 10, or staying in Stockholm for the same flght on the wednesday (which I personally have no objection to, but it's probably not everyone's cup of tea).

sliabh

I sort of commute to Sweden with SAS on an almost weekly basis, and most weeks I come home through the Copenhagen. While I didn't go to Berget I can give you some tips. CPH is a great airport, bigger, and better in every way than Dublin even though it takes less passengers every year. There is a small walk (5-10 min) from the pier where the Swedish flights get in, to the gates for non-Schengen flights.

Baggage has been a problem for me there. I usually make sure there is 60 minutes between flights. Anything less and bags tend to go missing. Airsoft gear might make things a little more awkward, and I can imagine the implications of "guns" going missing in an airport are far more serious.

One other thing that might be a problem. SAS are in a lot of difficulty at the moment and are supposed to be selling off a number of aircraft. We have heard rumours that the direct flight to Dublin, which was reduced in frequency from every day, may be cut entirely. You may end up with no choice but to take the Copenhagen option.

kdouglas

mightbe worth looking at freighting kit over in groups instead.

senordingdong

gerrowadat wrote: »

Any previous bergeteers ever taken SAS via Copenhagen? Flying out of Stockholm on tuesday instead of monday would be just lovely, but the only SAS flight is via CPH (Operated by SAS both legs).

Airsoft is kind of illegal in the Netherlands, so I'm assuming this is a big-no-no.

This basically means we're in the same boat as last year, with the options being getting up at stupid O'Clock on monday morning for a flight at 10, or staying in Stockholm for the same flght on the wednesday (which I personally have no objection to, but it's probably not everyone's cup of tea).

Dave, Copenhagen isn't in The Netherlands.
It's in Denmark, in which SAS is also the flag carrier.
I'm not familiar on Danish laws, but since it would all be done through SAS, I expect it would all be pretty straightforward.

OzCam

Yeah, I wondered about that too... judging by the number of Danes at Berget, I doubt that going via wonderful Copenhagen would be a problem. Lovely country.

If any bags are less likely to get lost in the transhipment baggage area of an airport, it's the ones with a Firearm tag on them.

gerrowadat

senordingdong wrote: »

Dave, Copenhagen isn't in The Netherlands.
It's in Denmark, in which SAS is also the flag carrier.
I'm not familiar on Danish laws, but since it would all be done through SAS, I expect it would all be pretty straightforward.

Argh. Geography fail.

Yeah, if that would work out,t hen it'd be great.

I'm actually half tempted to look into freighting stuff anyway. The only thing with that is if it doesn't show up we're double****ed.

TheDoc

Youd want to be sending alot of gear to make it worthwhile.

If I'm just brining an mp7 and pistols, it would not make economical sense for me to pay the same as anyone else, or anything near it.

However it does mean that I can give my stormcase to share.

I'd say I could easily fit 3 peoples rifles and pistols in one stormcase.

Tommyboy71

I'll take you up on that DOC.

TheDoc

Yeah no problem, sure its early days, but my plan at the moment is to just bring a seriously pimped out pistol, mags for it, and an mp7. We got mostly in close range combat last year, and I don't want to be held by an engagement range.

Plus it looks like I might be going psyops which would entail alot of infiltration and fast movement, and I dont want to be lumbered with a heavy rifle.

Plus the misses is buying me this



Shes just a little sweetheart, her exact words " Well I figured since it was brown, youd love me that little bit more if I gotcha it"

How bloody right she was, she got a little hug, a rub on the shoulder, a slap around the head and some education

" Its called tan dear, now stop crying"