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The requirement for referenda after Lisbon

  • 02-10-2009 12:29am
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    There must be some kind of conspiracy on the Yes side to blatantly mislead people when it comes to the very real possibility that there will never be a need for a referendum in Ireland again, if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified.

    That doesn't mean to say that there won't, but there most certainly is the very real possibiltiy that there won't.
    Yes Voter wrote:
    That's another falsehood spread by Ganley based on a selective quoting of Article 48 of the Treaty, where he omits the most important pieces saying that "changes must be ratified according to individual member states' constitutional requirements", ie: referendum in Ireland.

    there still seems to be some confusion over this.

    what would happen if we ratify the treaty, is that "the right to change the contract after it has been signed", would very much become legal and indeed constitutional, as it would have been consented to by the people of Ireland in a previous referendum. Meaning that all subsequent changes to treaties would be constiutional, as the agreement for "the contract to be changed after it has been signed" would have been ratified by the people, and therefore deemed the will of the people.

    If there is any doubt about this, then it will be the European courts who decide how to interpret it.

    We must also question whether it would ever get that far? Afterall, we have the very real scenario right now, where constitutional clashes were avoided simply by renaming this from the European Constition to the Lisbon Treaty. One would have to question, if an entirely new constitution can be ratified simply by changing the name on the cover, and a few subsequent words therein, what difficulty would there be in avoiding constitutional clashes in the future.

    Ipso facto no more referenda for the Irish, or indeed any other of the EU member states (as is already the case)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Bet you didnt read the sticky about Lisbon threads in here? And probably not the charter either.


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