Chelsea -v- Liverpool Match Thread

jesus_thats_gre

JPA wrote: »

2 divers though.
I don't think there's degrees of diving.

Regardless of who ye are actually talking about.

You would want to be one simple ****er if you didn't think there was a difference between playing up some contact being made and completely fabricating contact.


With regard to the Drogba versus Gerrard argument. Find one example of Gerrard something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHOBdHyRfM

JPA

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Regardless of who ye are actually talking about.

You would want to be one simple ****er if you didn't think there was a difference between playing up some contact being made and completely fabricating contact.

Not really. But thanks.
I don't know what Steven Gerrard could do where he WOULDN'T be defended.

jesus_thats_gre

JPA wrote: »

Not really. But thanks.
I don't know what Steven Gerrard could do where he WOULDN'T be defended.

Ironically enough, I am not the biggest fan of him. Him nearly going to Chelsea, despite the club dicking him around, left a really bad taste in my mouth. I don't think he should be the club captain. I don't have a clue how he didn't get at least a suspended prison sentence.

With regard to Drogba, I really respect him as a player when his head is right and think that he is probably the best in the PL when his head is in order.

Saying all of that, there are players that dive and there are players that take the complete piss. Drogba is certainly one of the players that takes the complete piss.

daithijjj

JPA wrote: »

Not really. But thanks.
I don't know what *Anyone who pulls on an england shirt* could do where he WOULDN'T be defended.

Fixed that for you.

Anyway, this thread is a serious yawn of off topic posts.

dannydiamond

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Ironically enough, I am not the biggest fan of him. Him nearly going to Chelsea, despite the club dicking him around, left a really bad taste in my mouth. I don't think he should be the club captain. I don't have a clue how he didn't get at least a suspended prison sentence.

With regard to Drogba, I really respect him as a player when his head is right and think that he is probably the best in the PL when his head is in order.

Saying all of that, there are players that dive and there are players that take the complete piss. Drogba is certainly one of the players that takes the complete piss.

Who would you have as club captain?

I for one believe him when he says there was alot of messing about over his contract.

jesus_thats_gre

dannydiamond wrote: »

Who would you have as club captain?

I for one believe him when he says there was alot of messing about over his contract.

I believe it too but his agent was still talking to clubs. That's the end of it as far as I am concerned.

daithijjj

dannydiamond wrote: »

Who would you have as club captain?

I for one believe him when he says there was alot of messing about over his contract.

Im with you there. Rick parry couldnt organise the making of a trifle dessert with 3 large buckets of sponge, jelly and custard.

Football bit, 1-1 on sunday, i smell a draw.

Bubs101

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Regardless of who ye are actually talking about.

You would want to be one simple ****er if you didn't think there was a difference between playing up some contact being made and completely fabricating contact.


With regard to the Drogba versus Gerrard argument. Find one example of Gerrard something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHOBdHyRfM

That is a classic video. Lehman and Drogba. What utter rascals

dannydiamond

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I believe it too but his agent was still talking to clubs. That's the end of it as far as I am concerned.

Of course his agent would have talked to other clubs.

So, who would you like to see club captain?

jesus_thats_gre

dannydiamond wrote: »

Of course his agent would have talked to other clubs.

So, who would you like to see club captain?

Carragher would have done a great job for the past few seasons. Pepe, Masch or Torres would be more than up to the job now.

jesus_thats_gre

Regarding the result, fully expect us to be the superior team, have the lion share of possession and chances but come away disappointed.

JPA

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Regarding the result, fully expect us to be the superior team, have the lion share of possession and chances but come away disappointed.

I'm a neutral but I don't know how or why you would think that will happen.

Karmafaerie

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Carragher would have done a great job for the past few seasons. Pepe, Masch or Torres would be more than up to the job now.

Sorry for going off topic, but after Gerrard and Carra, now that Xabi is gone, Dirk is considered third in line.

Karmafaerie

JPA wrote: »

I'm a neutral but I don't know how or why you would think that will happen.

Because it has in the last 4 premiership games between the clubs?

NaiveMelodies

On the gerrard question, He has had some ridiculous dives, not quite on the level as Drogba but..

Dive in instanbul will always be overlooked but it was a cheat.

His dive against an amateur Andorra was absolutley farcical and it takes a real cheat to dive against part timers.


Also, If Gerrard was Portugese,Spanish, Italian etc he would be seen by Eamo and others as a Cheat.

Karmafaerie

I've emboldened the stand out stats for me.

CHELSEA V LIVERPOOL: STAT ATTACK
Ged Rea 02 October 2009

Here are all the important pre-match stats and facts ahead of our Sunday showdown at Stamford Bridge.





Last season Liverpool completed a league double over Chelsea. The Reds won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge thanks to a Xabi Alonso goal in the tenth minute. It was their first league win there under Rafa Benitez and their first goal. It was their 600th away victory in the top-flight.


The victory broke the Londoners 86 game unbeaten run stretching back to February 2004. It was also Chelsea's first defeat in 30 league games.


In the return at Anfield Fernando Torres netted twice (in the 89th minute and again in added time) in a 2-0 win.


Liverpool have won twice at Stamford Bridge in the Premier League era. Prior to last season, the other win came in January 2004 when Bruno Cheyrou scored the only goal of the game. They have picked up 10 points out of a possible 51.


The Reds have lost 10 of their last 13 league visits to the Bridge and won only two of the last 19 on the ground.


A win for Liverpool will take them above Chelsea on goal difference.


Liverpool have scored three or more goals in 13 of their last 17 league games.


The 22 goals scored by Liverpool so far is their best tally in the opening seven league games of a campaign since 1895/96 and the second highest total in the club's history.


The Reds are unbeaten in five league games against Chelsea – their best run for 12 years.


The league double over Chelsea last season was the Reds first against them since 1989-90, the last time they lifted the title.


If Liverpool win this game it will be the first time since 1974/75 they have beaten Chelsea in back to back games at the Bridge.


A clean sheet for the Reds will give them three shut-outs in a row at Chelsea for the first time in their league history.


Fernando Torres scored his first goal for Liverpool against Chelsea in August 2007. He has scored three goals in two league games against them and five goals in six in all competitions.


Torres has never played a league game at Stamford Bridge – missing both of Liverpool's games there since his arrival.


Pepe Reina was controversially dismissed in the league meeting on this ground in February 2006, while Steven Gerrard also received his marching orders at Stamford Bridge in 2003.


Glen Johnson played 72 times for Chelsea in all competitions from 2003-2007 scoring four times.


Fernando Torres has scored five goals in his last two league games.


The Reds have scored in their last 18 Premier League games since failing to hit the net at Middlesbrough in February.

Fernando Torres welcome to the Bridge for a league game.

Fromvert

Jaysus, 12 pages deep and the game is more then a day away. I can see Chelsea beating us. I'm not being pessimistic but realistic. Our defence has been a shambles so far this season and its not going to improve come Sunday. 3-1 Chelsea, I hope I'm wrong but that what the head tells me.

Gerrard = Diver (especially when you see his mouth open and his arm in the air)
Drogba = Diver

No ifs or buts, a diver is a diver.

Karmafaerie

Liverpool goals for 22 goals against 10
Chelsea goals for 16 goals against 6

Liverpool are scoring more.
Liverpool are conceding more.


Lets compare like for like
We've shared 4 teams in the league.

Hull, Stoke, Burnley, Spurs.

Hull

Chelsea won 2-1 at home (with a 92nd minute winner).
Liverpool won 6-1 at home.

Stoke

Chelsea won 1-2 away (with a 94th minute winner)
Liverpool won 4-0 at home.

Burnley

Chelsea won 3-0 at home.
Liverpool won 4-0 at home.

Spurs

Chelsea won 3-0 at home.
Liverpool lost 1-2 away.


All the results are very similar.


Liverpool are scoring more.
Liverpool are conceding more.

If that's the case on Sunday, odds are the two teams will cancel each other out.

Fromvert

Every game is different, comparing like for like means jack imo. The team with the best defence will generally win imo.

~Rebel~

I'm Worried.

IvySlayer

Can't wait for this

I honestly cannot predict a score. I'm baffled. Just hope it's a cracker!

Last meeting was epic.

Handsome Bob

Have I mentioned how I find waiting for the Sunday 4pm kick offs totally shit? I must be the only one who loves the 12:45 kick offs on a Saturday for these types of games.

Bandit12

Lol at posters saying Gerrard is in the same class as Dropba for diving. Just lol.

SlickRic

Gerrard dives; we established this a long, long time ago now.

fabricating contact is cheating, the same as diving with no contact is cheating.

one's just an awful lot more stupid and less skilful.

Liam O

Bandit12 wrote: »

Lol at posters saying Gerrard is in the same class as Dropba for diving. Just lol.

everyone who dives is in the same boat imo...

Vampireskiss

I hope its a draw but I think Chelsea will expose liverpool as the average side that they are and win 3 1 or 4 1

Unearthly

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

This is the first time that I remember Chelsea fans being quite so opinionated before this fixture. Says it all really.

They were at the same thing last season then they got beaten by Arsenal Liverpool and Man Utd.

jesus_thats_gre

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Sorry for going off topic, but after Gerrard and Carra, now that Xabi is gone, Dirk is considered third in line.

Forgot about Dirk

CHD

Hurry up Sunday

Jagera

This match will be just that tad more interesting given the man u result today.

jesus_thats_gre

Less interesting in my opinion for some reason.

Come on! Gonna head to the Woolshed in town to watch this along with the Celtic game. Gonna be a long messy day

Headshot

Deleted User wrote: »

Come on! Gonna head to the Woolshed in town to watch this along with the Celtic game. Gonna be a long messy day

messy ?

a few stabbings and a few chairs thrown ?

Eire-Dearg

Headshot wrote: »

a few stabbings and a few chairs thrown ?

Those chairs are a right hazard, ne're mind the stabbings.

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

messy ?

a few stabbings and a few chairs thrown ?

Only if Phil Brown is about :pac:

tok9

If masch plays then i think Liverpool will win... We badly need him especially for a game like this. I'm going with 2-1 with Torres to continue his fine form against Chelsea

JerryHandbag

I think Chelsea will win....but I hope its another 4-4

MagicMarker

Hoping for a draw, but think Chelsea will win, I'm hoping for a lot of goals!

Handsome Bob

tok9 wrote: »

If masch plays then i think Liverpool will win... We badly need him especially for a game like this. I'm going with 2-1 with Torres to continue his fine form against Chelsea

I wouldn't go that far, there is an elephant in the room that you're not referring to.

Xavi6

The blue half of Manchester would like a draw please.

Kev_ps3

As a Utd fan I would like a draw or a Liverpool win. Think Chelsea are our main challenger this season.

Holsten

We scored 4 last time at the bridge, just concide one less.

Come on REDMEN!

SWAR

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Think Chelsea are our main challenger this season.

Bit early to say I would of thought and you probably thought that last season aswel

I think a lot depends on Masch from a Liverpool point of view. Assuming he plays and plays well, I think Liverpool have a good chance; however I think they will need to score at least 2 (maybe 3) goals to get all three points as I can't see us keeping a clean sheet.

CHD

SWAR wrote: »

Bit early to say I would of thought and you probably thought that last season aswel

At this early stage Chelsea are favourites, so no. Your wrong.

jesus_thats_gre

CHD wrote: »

At this early stage Chelsea are favourites, so no. Your wrong.

They were favourites at this very stage last season too, weren't they?

Headshot

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

They were favourites at this very stage last season too, weren't they?

and we know how that ended

CHD

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

They were favourites at this very stage last season too, weren't they?

Yep, and i reckon we will be favourites in 2022 aswell. Whats your point? Its not too early to say Chelsea are the main chalengers. You know why? Cause Chelsea are the main challenegers.

Hank Scorpio

Chelsea have to be favourites for the league but you never know what will happen.

Reckon chelsea will win by a goal or two today

SlickRic

CHD wrote: »

Yep, and i reckon we will be favourites in 2022 aswell. Whats your point? Its not too early to say Chelsea are the main chalengers. You know why? Cause Chelsea are the main challenegers.

i do admire your willingness to say it how you see it, with no fear of having comments like this bite you in the ass.

fair play.

on paper, yes Chelsea probably have the best squad. and they've had a good start. that does not automatically mean they will be the main challengers.

RasTa

Vermallen and Torres in anytime goalscorer double @16/1.

Please score Fernando!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then Drogba can score 4......