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Blair most likely WILL be president

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  • 02-10-2009 11:04pm
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    Biggins
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    Despite all those that are repeatedly saying that the "No" side is/was blowing smoke about Blair going to be president, TOMORROW on the front page MAIN HEADLINE of the British Times, they are announcing that it is MOST likely that Blair WILL be the first EU president.

    Tomoprrows front page:
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    The news sites tonight have been showing copies of tomorrows papers and this story is being repeated to some variation in a lot of them.
    Now I have read the previous links supplied from both sides stating their case one way or another with examples of previous statements, papers comments etc - however its become quite clear now, all those are now just that - past history. What will appear on tomorrows front page of the British Times is likely to be the future!

    Todays paper!
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    namloc1980
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    He was President of the European Council twice before....big deal. This is WAAAYYYY overblown. What is the problem with Blair BTW...(let me guess....IRAQ??)


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    prinz
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    There is no such thing as President of the EU :mad: Do you know who the current incumbent of the office Blair might (unlikely) hold? Because there is one you know, right now!!! Go spread that!!


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    PaulieD
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    The Yes sides waffles will come back to bite them in the coming months.


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    turgon
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    President of European Council


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    prinz
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    PaulieD wrote: »
    The Yes sides waffles will come back to bite them in the coming months.

    Could you link where in Lisbon the job of EU President is advertised?


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    marco_polo
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    Congratulations on the 1,000,000 the thread on this topic.

    He might be he might not be. Just because a pro Labour paper is building him up does not mean it is a certainty.


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    namloc1980
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    PaulieD wrote: »
    The Yes sides waffles will come back to bite them in the coming months.

    What waffles???? Blair certainly has the chane of becoming the next President of the European Council. But it is IN no way decided...but even if he does get it he wouldn't be the worst choice....plus he has experience as he was in the EXACT SAME ROLE TWICE IN THE RECENT PAST!!!


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    procure11
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    PaulieD wrote: »
    The Yes sides waffles will come back to bite them in the coming months.

    Paulie,are you giving up already?
    It is still too close to call as far as I know


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    ei.sdraob
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He was President of the European Council twice before....big deal. This is WAAAYYYY overblown. What is the problem with Blair BTW...(let me guess....IRAQ??)

    well ironically the "leader" :D of the no side (DG) has hired the people and generals directly responsible for that war

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62283094&postcount=68

    just saying...

    anyways whats this obsession with Blair?


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    meglome
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    Firstly there is no fúcking position of President of Europe. Secondly Blair could be elected to the role of President of the European council. But so could twenty other people. And the fúcking sky could fall down. I need a fúcking break.


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    Funglegunk
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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    anyways whats this obsession with Blair?

    He's a politician!!! Do you want a politican as PRESIDENT OF EUROPE?!?!


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    Biggins
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    meglome wrote: »
    Firstly there is no fúcking position of President of Europe. Secondly Blair could be elected to the role of President of the European council. But so could twenty other people. And the fúcking sky could fall down. I need a fúcking break.


    They are CREATING the new position.
    Go buy the British Times tomorrow!


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    marco_polo
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    It appears to be a part of a formerly secret campaign building. Doesn't meand the 27 member states will buy it.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6859525.ece
    Tony Blair’s former chief-of-staff is spearheading a diplomatic push designed to make him the first president of Europe, The Times has learnt.

    Disclosure last night of the role being played by Jonathan Powell threatens to undermine the former Prime Minister’s insistence that he is not actively campaigning for the post. Mr Powell is said to have toured the capitals of Europe in recent weeks on behalf of the man whom he worked alongside for more than a decade in Downing Street.

    He is known to have visited Brussels on at least one occasion in recent days to discuss Mr Blair’s chances with senior officials. This weekend the former chief-of-staff is expected to be in Paris and is scheduled to travel to Prague for talks with a Czech Government that is holding out against ratification of the Lisbon treaty.


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    turgon
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    Biggins wrote: »
    They are CREATING the new position.

    No they arent. They are merely changing the way the President is selected, and the length of time he serves.


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    procure11
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    turgon wrote: »
    President of European Council

    That speaks for the whole of europe in the international scene
    Represents the EU in the UN and acts as the de-facto head of state of Europe.Stop being haughty!


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    ei.sdraob
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    Biggins wrote: »
    They are CREATING the new position.

    1. who is "they"?
    2. what position?

    Biggins wrote: »
    Go buy the British Times tomorrow!

    3. British :rolleyes:


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    namloc1980
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    Funglegunk wrote: »
    He's a politician!!! Do you want a politican as PRESIDENT OF EUROPE?!?!

    :D That statement is just HILARIOUS


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    meglome
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    Biggins wrote: »
    They are CREATING the new position.
    Go buy the British Times tomorrow!

    Who is 'they'? We are the EU as much as anyone is.


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    ei.sdraob
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    procure11 wrote: »
    That speaks for the whole of europe in the international scene
    Represents the EU in the UN and acts as the de-facto head of state of Europe.Stop being haughty!

    So he/she will be like McAleeze

    a puppet with no power

    :cool:


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    marco_polo
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    Biggins wrote: »
    They are CREATING the new position.
    Go buy the British Times tomorrow!

    But looking at the TEU article here it says it is the President of the EU Council, with an extended term and a different metthod of appointment and has no mention of an EU President.

    Is your version of the treaty different to mine? :confused:


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    ei.sdraob
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    :D That statement is just HILARIOUS

    I want a lawyer for President! and he has to be afro-american to keep up with the neighbours


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    namloc1980
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    Biggins wrote: »
    They are CREATING the new position.
    Go buy the British Times tomorrow!

    Do you know that the position has actually existed since 1975.....our own Liam Cosgrave was the 1st in the position....that's right.

    Bertie was the President a few years ago. A swedish man called Frederik Reinfeldt is the current President....shock horror. Get Facts Straight.


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    procure11
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    turgon wrote: »
    No they arent. They are merely changing the way the President is selected, and the length of time he serves.

    Nice one!
    So essentially he/she would be selected (not elected) to represent the EU as a political body..and you think that is great :rolleyes:


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    meglome
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    :D That statement is just HILARIOUS

    It would be funny but they don't know the difference and yet want to vote No to an EU treaty when they don't even know anything about the EU.

    I'm off before I get myself banned.


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    marco_polo
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    procure11 wrote: »
    That speaks for the whole of europe in the international scene
    Represents the EU in the UN and acts as the de-facto head of state of Europe.Stop being haughty!


    This is indeed a twist in the tale :eek:

    Oh wait.

    http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/361eea1cc08301c485256cf600606959/13850bd9411e8e0985257607004edb0c?OpenDocument
    Presidency Statement on evictions in East Jerusalem

    The Presidency of the European Union reiterates its serious concern about the continued and unacceptable evictions in East Jerusalem, notably the evictions by Israeli authorities of two families from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood on Sunday 2 August 2009.

    The Presidency recalls that house demolitions, evictions and settlement activities in East Jerusalem are illegal under international law. In addition, the actions taken by the Israeli Government contravene repeated calls by the international community, including the Quartet, to refrain from any provocative actions in East Jerusalem. These actions confirm a worrying trend that runs counter to the creation of an atmosphere conducive to achieving a viable and credible solution to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.


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    procure11
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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    So he/she will be like McAleeze

    a puppet with no power

    :cool:

    What exactly does he/she need that power for, if respective countries have their own heads of state and parliament.


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    Biggins
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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    1. who is "they"?
    2. what position?

    3. British :rolleyes:

    Well for those that seem to can't even work out who "they" is, its the heads of the EU with the most influence, swing votes and power - gee, that was hard work working that one out!

    And whats wrong now with the British times!
    All of a sudden when they now report a story, some are automatically treating it like its the Sun newspaper.
    Is this because they just don't like the story I suspect? :rolleyes:


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    turgon
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    procure11 wrote: »
    So essentially he/she would be selected (not elected) to represent the EU as a political body

    So you openly admit you haven't even informed yourself about the issue? Because it is an elected position, ye know.


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    ei.sdraob
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    procure11 wrote: »
    What exactly does he/she need that power for, if respective countries have their own heads of state and parliament.

    to keep conspiracy theorists in employment :D


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    ei.sdraob
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Well for those that seem to can't even work out who "they" is, its the heads of the EU with the most influence, swing votes and power - gee, that was hard work working that one out!

    And whats wrong now with the British times!
    All of a sudden when they now report a story, some are automatically treating it like its the Sun newspaper.
    Is this because they just don't like the story I suspect? :rolleyes:

    not at all i just find this obsession with Blair amusing

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