Keane hits back at Yorke

Vampireskiss

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/02/roy-keane-hits-back-dwight-yorke

Chucky the tree

Thats it Roy, prove him wrong that you do have the tempermenant to be a a good manager by keeping you're cool and not getting into a slagging match through the media while you're team is bottom of the league.

That_Guy

"Players are entitled to opinions, I think that might be Yorkie's second or third book, so he must be stuck for a few bob."

What a great quote.

thegen

Think Yorke got it in one. Keane responding has proven it.

orourkeda

Why would anyone even be bothered to talk about these two?

Mitch Connor

thegen wrote: »

Think Yorke got it in one. Keane responding has proven it.

Indeed - don't think i can think of another manager who has gotten involved in a public row in the media.

Lets see...

Wenger, nope - never done it.
Fergie, nope - don't think so.
Benitez.... nah, not that i can remember.
Mourinho.... such a constrained individual, never remember him having a go at people through the media.

Shame on you Roy, you should no that no manager can be any good at all if they are talking in the media.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Indeed - don't think i can think of another manager who has gotten involved in a public row in the media.

Lets see...

Wenger, nope - never done it.
Fergie, nope - don't think so.
Benitez.... nah, not that i can remember.
Mourinho.... such a constrained individual, never remember him having a go at people through the media.

Shame on you Roy, you should no that no manager can be any good at all if they are talking in the media.

The difference is Keane is badly managing a championship team while those managers are with top clubs.

Stupid comparison really.

Mitch Connor

rarnes1 wrote: »

The difference is Keane is badly managing a championship team while those managers are with top clubs.

Stupid comparison really.

oh - so when you are at the top you can respond to people slagging you off, when at the bottm you are not allowed to defend yourself.

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

oh - so when you are at the top you can respond to people slagging you off, when at the bottm you are not allowed to defend yourself.

It doesnt help.

From the " Dummies guide to media responses for managers"

Paragraph 4, Section 5

When your ability and self confidence is put into question, and you are asked about it in the media, try to deflect the question or the anwser. Typical responses can be of the following

"I'd rather not get into a debate about my ability, the chairman here has giving me his backing and thats all that matters.

"We have got off to a poor start, and I need to focus on getting my team playing well and winning games, not diverting my time to answering this sort of stuff"

"Everyone has opinions, thats football, I'm in the results game, and I have the confidence in my ability and myself that I can get the results required"

A big no no , is attacking or adding fuel to the fire.


His decision making and his general discussions with the media have been overall cringe worthy and downright stupid, not doing himself any favours.

Ipswich need to hand him a PR officer, asap

jesus_thats_gre

When things are not going in your favour, bringing attention on yourself is not a good idea. When things are going well, you can do what you want.

Roy would be better off laughing it off.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

oh - so when you are at the top you can respond to people slagging you off, when at the bottm you are not allowed to defend yourself.

No, but he probably should concentrate on trying to win a game with Ipswich.

I see they lost again today.

The Muppet

rarnes1 wrote: »

The difference is Keane is badly managing a championship team while those managers are with top clubs.

Stupid comparison really.

How is it a stupid comparison? Keane like every other manager is entitled to reply when someone writes stuff about him. I think he was pretty measured with his reply. He says he doesn't respect yorkie and he thinks Yorkie didn't pull his weight in his last season, That's pretty fair comment I think.

Mr. Presentable

Wow, he gave Yorke a real savaging there - refuted all his allegations :rolleyes:

The Muppet

The Muppet wrote: »

How is it a stupid comparison? Keane like every other manager is entitled to reply when someone writes stuff about him. I think he was pretty measured with his reply. He says he doesn't respect yorkie and he thinks Yorkie didn't pull his weight in his last season, That's pretty fair comment I think.

Comparing successful managers with top clubs with a failure of a manager with a team that looks destained for relegation.

He just seems to spout a lot of shíte in the press for a manager who is hanging on to his job by a thread.

lol @ Yorkie btw.

thegen

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Indeed - don't think i can think of another manager who has gotten involved in a public row in the media.

Lets see...

Wenger, nope - never done it.
Fergie, nope - don't think so.
Benitez.... nah, not that i can remember.
Mourinho.... such a constrained individual, never remember him having a go at people through the media.

Shame on you Roy, you should no that no manager can be any good at all if they are talking in the media.

What is it with Keane and support from people on here. He is badly managing a team in the championship and gets involved in a slagging match. If he concentrated on the job he is employed to do instead of having a pop at Yorke he would be better off.

UnitedIrishman

rarnes1 wrote: »

Comparing successful managers with top clubs with a failure of a manager with a team that looks destained for relegation.

He just seems to spout a lot of shíte in the press for a manager who is hanging on to his job by a thread.

lol @ Yorkie btw.

Don't want to get into this again but.. a failure of a manager?

Takes over Sunderland with a record of P5 W0 and brings them to the Premiership. Keeps them in the Premiership in his first season. Leaves them the following season after a bad start.

Not doing well at Ipswich, I'll say that, but give him time and he'll be up there again. He's not getting much luck these days with late winners and the like but Rome wasn't built in a day.

As for the amount of ****e in the press: that's more to do with the papers following him more than other sides because of who he is.

I say fair play to him for coming out fighting. Sick of clichéd lines that managers come out with to refute things etc.

therecklessone

orourkeda wrote: »

Why would anyone even be bothered to talk about these two?

You were bothered enough to post here, weren't you?

Mr. Presentable

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Don't want to get into this again but.. a failure of a manager?

Takes over Sunderland with a record of P5 W0 and brings them to the Premiership. Keeps them in the Premiership in his first season. Leaves them the following season after a bad start.

Not doing well at Ipswich, I'll say that, but give him time and he'll be up there again. He's not getting much luck these days with late winners and the like but Rome wasn't built in a day.

As for the amount of ****e in the press: that's more to do with the papers following him more than other sides because of who he is.

I say fair play to him for coming out fighting. Sick of clichéd lines that managers come out with to refute things etc.

Actually, it was. It was a Tuesday.

tdv

Yorkie has clearly achievhed what he had set out to do. Fairl Play to him.

kryogen

rarnes1 wrote: »

Comparing successful managers with top clubs with a failure of a manager with a team that looks destained for relegation.

He just seems to spout a lot of shíte in the press for a manager who is hanging on to his job by a thread.

lol @ Yorkie btw.

do you think maybe you have something in common with him in the spouting ****e department? Keanes huge downfall is he generally gives a straight answer to a question

thegen wrote: »

What is it with Keane and support from people on here. He is badly managing a team in the championship and gets involved in a slagging match. If he concentrated on the job he is employed to do instead of having a pop at Yorke he would be better off.

He is not badly managing the team in fairness to him, they have been conceding late goals, sloppy late goals due to player mistakes. this has destroyed the confidence but they are not playing as badly as it looks. they will turn it around as soon as they get one lucky break instead of having the luck go against them.

As i said his biggest failing is that he answers questions. he was successful at Sunderland and given time he will be successful at Ipswich. For God sake its his second job in management, if you cant make your mistakes while learning the job when can you?

Happy Monday

kryogen wrote: »

He is not badly managing the team in fairness to him.

LOL!!

kryogen

Happy Monday wrote: »

LOL!!

may i start by saying, excellent contribution, this forum is a better place because of people like you! congrats

secondly, show me what criteria you are using to make the assesment that he is managing the club badly please. it is the start of the season and they have been playing some of the better teams in the league and are playing better then their form suggests. stating that he is managing the club great or badly is just wrong at the moment

Is Paul Hart managing Portsmouth badly? or do we constantly hear that he is doing "a great job considering"

Refereeing decisions, bad luck and silly individual errors have Ipswich in the position they are but i would rather judgement be held off until the season is over to start banging on about wether he has/is doing a good job or not

The Davestator

Whatever about Ipswich, still not over Saipan.....