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Ireland Offline Response to EU Consultation due 09 Oct

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  • 04-10-2009 1:54pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭


    This is the EU Consultation Document . Please note what the EU says


    http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/eeurope/i2010/pc_post-i2010/index_en.htm

    "Please note that you are NOT obliged to answer all questions; you may focus on the areas of interest to you."

    Now to the questions themselves .

    http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?userstate=prodtree

    with a note on answering here before you lash in.

    http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=posti2010

    Our Minister is 100% certain to come up with a lot of 'Low Carbon' waffle that is fully anticipated ( trust me :D ) and will furthermore lie that Ireland is some kind of a leader in Europe . To make matters worse he believes this rubbish .

    We have been made fully aware of what will be contained in this submission and have prepared a detailed submission to deal with this anticipated dangerous and disingenous tripe.

    The reality on the ground is rather different as we all know One of the few chances we have to catch up is if the EU actually MANDATES the government to install FTTH because Ryan certainly will not do so unless ordered .

    Ireland Offline would welcome any observations or suggestions on how to answer this submission based on the questionaire above .

    We need to have them in by Tuesday Evening ( the 6th) so that we can prepare and submit by Friday evening ( the 9th) . Please post it here or email to info@irelandoffline.org

    You need but answer one question well to be invaluable .

    Sections 4 5 6 and 9 would likely be of most interest to our members and to readers of this forum .

    If you have a blog , spread the word . Sections 6 and 9 are of great importance to the future of blogging .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭rob808


    rayan and his party are idots with there plan carbon tax with business already struggling and or network the worst in europe they destroy this country if we don't find away of getting rid of them and do they not no copper produce more carbon than fibre since that only way to reduce our carbon footprint and a smart economy that just a fairy tail our government has in it mind when we have slow broadband in EU and most expensive we really should have Fibre to the home already with the money were spending for crap broadband


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    1) At all stages and at all points the judgements of success must be specific, target based, and ideally numerical. As much as possible, consultation, "holistic" and wooly concepts must be excised. Successful ICT policy will be reliant on high-speed open internet, research and innovation, and an online single market.

    2) Member state inaction, regulatory change and market failure are the biggest barriers to good practice adoption - particularly in small markets such as this one where prices are suspiciously higher and fixed across all operators.

    4.1 - Definitely not by end users paying a higher subscription!
    4.2 - Synergy means ducting. Since we can't rely on our muppets this should certainly be an EU issue.
    4.3 - Forcing our regulator to explain its gross failures?
    4.4 - Speed, Non-Discrimination, Transparency, Technological platform. No more shoving midband and satellite figures in to buff yourself up.
    4.5 - Specific and concrete results only. We know what happens when you leave these muppets to it.
    4.6 - Again, No way.
    4.7 - Define "openness"?
    4.8 - Connectivity, Interoperability, PRICE.


    I could go on with specifics here.
    Essentially, IoffL's position is pretty clear: This economy suffers from weak regulation, improperly defined targets, poor policymaking, capitulance to large market power, and lack of accountability or honesty about the state of play. At all points we should be pushing for wider adoption of EU-wide regulatory standards and practices, an enhancement to all areas of consumer protection and privacy, and adopting formal EU rights. The woolier the guideline, the better it is for Ryan, Comreg, and the footdraggers in industry to do nothing. There has been no point over the past 30 years where introducing EU rights to consumers has been a bad thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭leoc


    I only just came across this, so I'm rushing to get something in. Here are some suggestions for the questionnaire; I'll try to make some suggestions for the position paper next.

    1.1 "Yes".
    1.2 "or rather a vision where the desired end results are broken down into more concrete and measurable targets such as targets on broadband coverage, investments in infrastructure etc."
    1.3 "High-speed and open internet for all", "Online single market", and "Public services", in that priority order. "ICT research and innovation" is the best of the rest.
    1.4 Open reply: "It should mostly remain the same because for most specific challenges, such as for example ageing, overall progress in ICT will be the most important driver of advances. Current and future security threats make cybersecurity important."

    4.2 "Yes", though maybe "Others" as it's only last-mile infrastructure that particularly requires government support.
    4.4 "Speed", "Latency" and "Non-discrimination" in that priority order, with packet-loss as a follow-up.
    4.5 Merciful God, "No".

    4.7 "Yes"
    4.8 Probably "Open standards", "Net neutrality", and "End-to-end connectivity (access any point from any point)" with "Interoperability/portability of services" as a runner-up.

    6.3 "Statutory right"

    6.6 Open reply: "Universally available, high-speed, non-discriminatory fixed and mobile Internet connections are central. These will allow content providers to serve content, including high-bandwidth content such as high-quality video, to small and/or geographically dispersed audiences at low cost and without requiring the co-operation of intermediaries such as distributors, retailers, broadcasters and ISPs. Fairness and congestion problems must also be overcome to support this."

    7.1 "Internet free of traffic restrictions", "Internet free of censorship", "Global technical challenges (multilingual issues, address space etc)" with "Security and protection of critical infrastructure" as a runner-up.
    7.2 "International reserch cooperation"

    7.4 "Support existing ICT and internet governance structures." The proposed "multilateralism" etc. will unleash a plague of censorship and political interference. The Americans are the least-bad people to leave in control of the Internet.

    9.6 Open reply: "Universal, reliable and low cost fixed and especially mobile Internet connections are a basic prerequisite of success here."
    9.7 "Promoting exchange of good practices" and "Utilisation of coherent policy tools, to monitor and benchmark national actions at EU level": some decent benchmarks are always useful, another caste of inclusion drones won't be.


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