Teenage Girls Suicide Jump

Kiera · 05-10-2009 5:02pm

Kradock wrote: »

If you are not referring to me , why quote my post. Read through the thread and find where I was trying to be funny about suicide.

Where in the thread have I made a stupid or childish remark?

I looked at the thread to see if there was something worth reading about in it. I posted what I thought because I felt that the OP was posting it in AH to get a reaction.

I quoted your post to let you know there have been serious threads in AH.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-10-2009 5:02pm

donmeister wrote: »

NAHM

(Not After Hour's Material)

How so?

FearDark wrote: »

Stop finding these types of stories and posting here... seriously.

"Oh look an awful story, I'll post it in AH so people can poke fun at it - but the fox that I am I'll put a couple of :(:( to make me look like i give a fucking shit"

This is what we call the news. Nobody wants to hear of the good things, because it is simply not entertaining. Gorey depressing blood guts and death is what people like to read. For what reason I do not know. More fun would be poked at them if this story was a happy one.

Anyway, were they hot? It's such a shame to see hot women killing themselves

Kradock · 05-10-2009 5:04pm

davyjose wrote: »

Build a bridge....

Loopy wrote: »

And Jump.

Loopy wrote: »

I have seen numerous AH threads on Suicide..
As I said the last thing I posted this thread was for people to mock suicide.
I stupidly assumed the dickheads just wouldn't post.

/

Seems a bit hypocritical to me .

Kradock · 05-10-2009 5:08pm

Kiera wrote: »

I quoted your post to let you know there have been serious threads in AH.

Your earlier post when read would seem to indicate that you think I have come on and made childish and idiotic remarks .

I haven't as I do not find anything funny in suicide with good reason.

Kiera · 05-10-2009 5:14pm

Kradock wrote: »

Your earlier post when read would seem to indicate that you think I have come on and made childish and idiotic remarks .

I haven't as I do not find anything funny in suicide with good reason.

I should have paragraphed it correctly. My point was, you have not been around here long. Therefore you havent seen the amount of serious threads that have graced us in AH.

Loopy · 05-10-2009 5:31pm

Kradock wrote: »

Seems a bit hypocritical to me .

Sometimes your left with no choice, I doubt his feelings were hurt.

Kradock · 05-10-2009 5:38pm

Kiera wrote: »

I should have paragraphed it correctly. My point was, you have not been around here long. Therefore you havent seen the amount of serious threads that have graced us in AH.

Fair enough . I look forward to seeing a few.;)

Peep O'Day · 05-10-2009 5:55pm

amazing how these deaths are treated with hilarity by a good few but when a recent high profile suicide occurred there was no such thing

brummytom · 05-10-2009 6:02pm

There's always problems with 'serious' threads in AH.

I had a thread locked because it was about Suicide. I thought it went well, there was one or two childish/facecious comments but also good discussion. Ultimately, it got closed because people whinged it wasn't suited.

I always find the claim certain things shouldn't be discussed here completely ridiculous. This is claimed to be akin to a pub chat basically isn't it? I.e. anything can be discussed here.

I haven't been here that long, but I've saw numerous threads on Suicide/Abortion etc. that have been very interesting. There's bound to be an idiot or two make a joke, but the majority of posters here are capable of posting in a mature manner.

Anyway, I digress.
It's a terrible shame about these two girls. I saw something recently about educating teachers on signs of depression; this obviously needs to be done to reduce the appalling teen suicide rate in the UK.

05-10-2009 6:03pm

Peep O'Day wrote: »

amazing how these deaths are treated with hilarity by a good few but when a recent high profile suicide occurred there was no such thing

we don't even know their names and they're in a different country. who the fuk cares really.. there's 7 billion people in this world.

Peep O'Day · 05-10-2009 6:36pm

Deleted User wrote: »

we don't even know their names and they're in a different country. who the fuk cares really.. there's 7 billion people in this world.

i fcukin care thats who, the uk isnt exactly a million miles away and did you know quite an amount of people over there are irish or of irish descent believe it or believe it not:rolleyes: . theres 4 million in this country why grieve over one suicide in particular?

Bob_Harris · 05-10-2009 6:50pm

Peep O'Day wrote: »

amazing how these deaths are treated with hilarity by a good few but when a recent high profile suicide occurred there was no such thing

I'll hold my hand up and say I couldn't give a shit about Darren Sutherland's suicide just as much as I couldn't give a shit about this suicide.

There's nothing I hate more than internet "condolence" threads. A bunch of random anonymous internet people repeating "RIP", "It's so sad", "So upsetting", etc etc.

It's pathetic. Feeling faux sorrow for people you don't know and who don't know you.

I think we will all encounter more than enough genuine hurt and sorrow for close family and friends dying over the course of our lives for us to bother pretending to feel sorrow for whatever B list celebrity / newsworthy death that has occurred.

deadhead13 · 05-10-2009 6:55pm

Deleted User wrote: »

we don't even know their names and they're in a different country. who the fuk cares really.. there's 7 billion people in this world.

It is one thing not being particularly affected by the story, but it is another thing entirely to take the piss out of 2 teenage girls killing themselves in an effort to get a few more thanks .

walshb · 05-10-2009 7:17pm

Very strange indeed and comes a few weeks after another young girl aged 14 leapt to her death from a bridge onto the road below. What is strange is the age/sex and method used. Most suicides involve males and most female suicides involve "less violent" methods, or less "painful" methods.

Latchy · 05-10-2009 7:44pm

Many people in their lives will at some stage think about suicide .But the idea of actually going ahead and doing it is not an option because they would see it as a sefish act not to mention the pain ,guilt and sorrow they leave behind on their familys . In many cases we may never know what the final straw was to make a person or persons carry out the act .

stovelid · 05-10-2009 7:48pm

The_Minister wrote: »

We can rebuild them.

And advanced technology means that they'll be even hotter than Lindsay Wagner...

Gummy Panda · 05-10-2009 7:49pm

Latchy wrote: »

Many people in their lives will at some stage think about suicide .But the idea of actually going ahead and doing it is not an option because they would see it as a sefish act not to mention the pain ,guilt and sorrow they leave behind on their familys . In many cases we may never know what the final straw was to make a person or persons carry out the act .

People who actual try to commit suicide probably thinking living is a selfish act as they're a burden/loser and their family/friends would be better off without them.

Which makes it harder to identify as they're trying to hide their true feelings from people around them.

Latchy · 05-10-2009 8:15pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

People who actual try to commit suicide probably thinking living is a selfish act as they're a burden/loser and their family/friends would be better off without them.

Yes that in many cases is very true and also a very sad statistic

Which makes it harder to identify as they're trying to hide their true feelings from people around them.

And they torment themselfs so much until they can take no more

Peep O'Day · 05-10-2009 8:22pm

Bob_Harris wrote: »

I'll hold my hand up and say I couldn't give a shit about Darren Sutherland's suicide just as much as I couldn't give a shit about this suicide.

There's nothing I hate more than internet "condolence" threads. A bunch of random anonymous internet people repeating "RIP", "It's so sad", "So upsetting", etc etc.

It's pathetic. Feeling faux sorrow for people you don't know and who don't know you.

I think we will all encounter more than enough genuine hurt and sorrow for close family and friends dying over the course of our lives for us to bother pretending to feel sorrow for whatever B list celebrity / newsworthy death that has occurred.

that i can appreciate, as at least you aren't being a hypocrite

Rebelheart · 05-10-2009 8:32pm

Loopy wrote: »

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Glasgow-Erskine-Bridge-Two-Women-Die-In-Fall/Article/200910115399440?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15399440_Glasgow_Erskine_Bridge%3A_Two_Women_Die_In_Fall_

Holy Shit:(

Yet more drama queens. If you want to do that sort of thing do it and cut the raiméis. If not, start taking responsibility and enjoying life. It's entirely up to you, sillies!

There is no shame in choosing death over life.

Loopy · 05-10-2009 8:33pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

People who actual try to commit suicide probably thinking living is a selfish act as they're a burden/loser and their family/friends would be better off without them.

Which makes it harder to identify as they're trying to hide their true feelings from people around them.

It is the individuals choice at the end of the day... Why live a miserable existence if its not what you want .. Im probably one of the few people out there who dosen't think it is a selfish act..

I cant imagine what was going through those 2 young girls minds to think that this was their only option though..

nitromaster · 05-10-2009 8:42pm

Their bebo profiles
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3994676552
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4988889581

Of interesting note....they aren't listed as top friends on each other's profiles....

"Me Nd Yhoo Are Friends ...Yhoo Fight,I Fight..Yhoo Hurt I Hurt..Yhoo Cry ,I Cry ..Yhoo Jump Off I Bridge ill Miss Yhoo !!
by NeveLafferty Ox
87 weeks ago"

Latchy · 05-10-2009 8:45pm

Loopy wrote: »

It is the individuals choice at the end of the day... Why live a miserable existence if its not what you want .. Im probably one of the few people out there who dosen't think it is a selfish act
I cant imagine what was going through those 2 young girls minds to think that this was their only option though..

If as mentioned ,you feel you are a burden to your family ,friends ,society ,a failure , a loser ,...Suicide will be the only option for many .But sad to think that young people are so driven to despair that the kill themselfs .If they come from family were they are unloved / unwanted , you might be able to understand why they did it and you maybe ask 'did they try any other option like getting help or were they byond the point of rescue ' ?

CCCP^ · 05-10-2009 9:01pm

Might have been Ernest Hemingway who said something about it taking immense courage to realise there wasn't any point continuing....but then he did kill himself as well. I think it's a tragedy that this happened, but hundreds of people kill themselves every year in this country, why should this be pulling at your heart strings? There are plenty of Irish people who have taken their own lives, and I'm sure there is not one of us out there now reading this who hasn't faced the heartbreak.

MizzLolly · 05-10-2009 9:24pm

CCCP^ wrote: »

...hundreds of people kill themselves every year in this country, why should this be pulling at your heart strings? There are plenty of Irish people who have taken their own lives, and I'm sure there is not one of us out there now reading this who hasn't faced the heartbreak.

Sorry what? Just because they're not Irish it doesn't make what happened any less tragic. You're right, most of us here have felt the same heartache, I know I have and I can honestly say that, yes, this story does make me sad. It's a horrible story, of course people feel bad about it.

Even seeing this;

nitromaster wrote: »

Their bebo profiles
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3994676552
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4988889581

.. of course people are gona be upset by it. It doesn't make a difference if you know them or not.

To be honest I'm ****ing sick of the way After Hours tends to go when threads like this arise. Likewise for the Baby P thread and the Sophie Lancaster thread. If these stories make an impact on people and they want to express it on a thread then let them at it.

This arrogant, prickish tone and saying you ''don't give a ****'' that happens in these threads is getting old. When something tragic happens most people feel bad about it, whether directly affected or not. Get over it. If you don't like these threads don't ****ing post in them.

Loopy · 05-10-2009 9:27pm

CCCP^ wrote: »

Might have been Ernest Hemingway who said something about it taking immense courage to realise there wasn't any point continuing....but then he did kill himself as well. I think it's a tragedy that this happened, but hundreds of people kill themselves every year in this country, why should this be pulling at your heart strings? There are plenty of Irish people who have taken their own lives, and I'm sure there is not one of us out there now reading this who hasn't faced the heartbreak.

Its not pulling at my heart strings but I did think it unusual for 2 young girls 2 willingly jump to their deaths..
Whatever way you look at it.. Its a sad story imo.

Edit: Well said Mizz Lolly

Latchy · 05-10-2009 9:44pm

Something that amazes me a lot and as miss Lolly said , somebody will profess to not caring about a subject in a thread but give us their views on it all the same .Well get this ,most people do care enough about suicide victims and their familys .It all part of being human and not having a cold heart .

05-10-2009 9:44pm

deadhead13 wrote: »

It is one thing not being particularly affected by the story, but it is another thing entirely to take the piss out of 2 teenage girls killing themselves in an effort to get a few more thanks .

every cloud..

Muggy Dev · 05-10-2009 10:37pm

Rest in Peace.

Novella · 06-10-2009 12:01am

This is very tragic. I think it's extremely upsetting and I know that this is AH but really, the suicides of two young girls is never a joking matter. RIP.

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