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Daily Mail's 50 Worst Premiership Strikers

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    kenon wrote: »
    £30.8 million for Andrei Shevchenko.

    2006–2009 Chelsea 48 appearances 9 goals.

    I cant find how much he went back to Dynamo Kiev for.

    I think this makes him the worst. Although Chris Sutton to Chelsea used to win this competition all the time a few years ago.

    I think there is a bit of a difference though in a transfer flop that just a shockingly bad player.

    Ok Sheva cost 30m and a return of 1 goal every 5 games isn't great but its still no where near Bosko Balaban return of 9 games no goals or Ali Dia's 15mins of fame.

    I think transfer fee's should be left out of it and also prior to his Chelsea stint Chris Sutton was lethal in the prem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    kenon wrote: »
    I think this makes him the worst. Although Chris Sutton to Chelsea used to win this competition all the time a few years ago.

    Only formed part of one of best strike partnerships in hte history of the premiership :rolleyes:

    The title of this is ''50 worst Premiership Strikers'' not worst transfers, biggest disapointments or anything else just the worst strikers how you could include Chris Sutton anywhere near that is astounding tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭kenon


    Only formed part of one of best strike partnerships in hte history of the premiership :rolleyes:

    The title of this is ''50 worst Premiership Strikers'' not worst transfers, biggest disapointments or anything else just the worst strikers how you could include Chris Sutton anywhere near that is astounding tbh.

    Ahh get over it. :rolleyes: I didn't really think it through. I am well aware of the SAS partnership, its just that Sutton is always thrown up because of his dismal performance for Chelsea.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,108 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    To be fair to Chelsea with Kezmen, they hardly "threw money at a striker", he was a bargain at the time considering his goals record (cost about 5mill i think), they made a profit selling him on after he flopped as i recall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    A bit harsh on Voronin, no? He's far from the best striker, but didn't cost a dime compared to to the cash splashed on others. Plus he spent a year of his time at Liverpool out on loan..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Eire-Dearg wrote: »
    A bit harsh on Voronin, no? He's far from the best striker, but didn't cost a dime compared to to the cash splashed on others. Plus he spent a year of his time at Liverpool out on loan..

    Exactly, that's how shit he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Exactly, that's how shit he is.
    Yeah, in the Bundesliga. Go make a shiittest Bundesliga strikers list :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    man, forgot about Postiga. the only thing he ever did was score against Liverpool in a 2-1 win at White Hart Lane; which i was at :mad:

    Martin Dahlin's another one i couldn't believe i'd forgotten. i remember i had him in my FF when he arrived. not a good plan.

    kezman. i can't believe he hadn't been mentioned.

    and delgado, i only have vague memories of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    Speaking of Shevshenko and his lack of impact on the Premiership....his buddy Rebrov didnt exactly terrorise defences when he moved to Spurs from what I recall either? (I'm sure therecklessone would have the facts!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    SlickRic wrote: »
    but look at him...

    fcd9d573-e392-48d3-b5a0-bd4de7e1c61f.jpg

    ;)

    Jesus christ it's Dirk Kuyt's twin brother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭kenon


    I could see David Bellion getting a shout in this list.

    50856bellion.jpg

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Kluivert mentioned yet?

    Had a terrible time at Newcastle IIRC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Dancor wrote: »
    Kluivert mentioned yet?

    Had a terrible time at Newcastle IIRC

    Only played one season and got to double figures afaik, more would have expected because of he's reputation but still respectable hardly worst 50 ever material


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    How about Sergei Rebrov? Major Spurs flop.

    Also Albert Luque. Signed for Newcastle for £9.5m.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    gucci wrote: »
    Speaking of Shevshenko and his lack of impact on the Premiership....his buddy Rebrov didnt exactly terrorise defences when he moved to Spurs from what I recall either? (I'm sure therecklessone would have the facts!)

    Yeah but isn't Sheva the most expensive striker brought to the Premiership


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Charlton had about 5 or 6 strikers around 2000 and they where all terrible!


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't wait to see the top 10 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Jako8


    Ali Dia anyone? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Bob the Seducer


    Keeping on a Newcastle theme, how about Xisco?

    While I'm at it Derby County's fake passport carying Argie Esteban Fuertes might be worth a shout (even though they turned a profit selling him after he got kicked out of the UK)

    Then there was Andrea Silenzi... who wasn't very good at all when he turned up at Forest (or anywhere else after that, for that matter!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    I think I remember your man Augustin Delgado threw a wobbler cos his team-mates didnt remember his birthday!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/2780531.stm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭mudokon


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Jesus christ it's Dirk Kuyt's twin brother.

    That is exactly what I thought when I saw it, made a pic to show the similarity, then I saw your post. :(

    I'm posting it anyway. :P

    Dowie-Kuyt.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1218559/THE-LIST-The-worst-strikers-played-Premier-League-Nos-30-21.html
    Only played one season and got to double figures afaik, more would have expected because of he's reputation but still respectable hardly worst 50 ever material

    Hmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Dancor wrote: »

    In work cant access the link but I'm assuming young Patrick is in there :o still personally I dont agree that someone who scored 13 goals in 35 appearances is worthy of been rated in the 30 worst strikers to have played in the premiership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    No way should Maccarone be that high, or even in there.

    30. Dong-Gook Lee
    29. Massimo Maccarone
    28. Michele Padovano
    27. Daniel Cordone
    26. Francis Jeffers
    25. Titi Camara
    24. Milton Nunez
    23. Corrado Grabbi
    22. Patrick Kluivert
    21. David Bellion

    Grabbi should be higher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    In work cant access the link but I'm assuming young Patrick is in there :o still personally I dont agree that someone who scored 13 goals in 35 appearances is worthy of been rated in the 30 worst strikers to have played in the premiership.

    Sorry should have listed the names, Thanks Xavi.

    I actually agree with you. Didnt know he he scores that many. Thought it was about 5 or so. According to Wikipedia it was 6 in 25 league gmaes. Maybe they are only counting league games and goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    I must say once again, the Titi Camara thing, the year he was at Liverpool, he was ok.

    Done what was expected of him, I dont think he was ever brought in as a 20 goal a year striker.
    I'm not trying to make out he was a genius, but i dont think he deserves to be as high as he is.
    He was limited talented wise, but worked hard, and probably the injuries to Fowler and Owen meant he played more than he should have, but also meant he was a lone striker alot of the time.

    I cant comment on his West Ham career but it sounds like it was poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,519 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    No way should Maccarone be that high, or even in there.

    30. Dong-Gook Lee
    29. Massimo Maccarone
    28. Michele Padovano
    27. Daniel Cordone
    26. Francis Jeffers
    25. Titi Camara
    24. Milton Nunez
    23. Corrado Grabbi
    22. Patrick Kluivert
    21. David Bellion

    Grabbi should be higher



    Yes he should.

    Kluivert shouldn't though.

    EDIT:

    Though I will never forget the pain of SSN's headline in the Rovers-Pool game a few years back of "Blackburn Grabbi a point" when he scored a late equaliser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    kluivert in there is ridiculous.

    no way are there only 20 worse strikers than him in the history of the Premiership.

    lazy pick to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Thought Reyes would have been mentioned already. I have a feeling he will be in here somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Dancor wrote: »
    Thought Reyes would have been mentioned already. I have a feeling he will be in here somewhere.

    never.

    he was merely expensive.

    if he's top 20, it'll be appalling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭dubmick


    Johan Elmander? Cost £8.2 million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,519 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    SlickRic wrote: »
    never.

    he was merely expensive.

    if he's top 20, it'll be appalling.


    By that logic Schevchenko should be excluded too?

    (he scored 14 in his first season)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Just because Kluivert and Shevchenko were so prolific before they moved to the Premiership does not mean they shouldnt be included in the list. They were just horrible in the PL and very expensive ones at that. For this reason alone Shevchenko has to be the worst ever PL signing of a striker.

    You could add Crespo and Asprilla to that list as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,519 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Warper wrote: »
    Just because Kluivert and Shevchenko were so prolific before they moved to the Premiership does not mean they shouldnt be included in the list. They were just horrible in the PL and very expensive ones at that. For this reason alone Shevchenko has to be the worst ever PL signing of a striker.

    You could add Crespo and Asprilla to that list as well.

    You're not listening.

    Both got double figures in their first seasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    noodler wrote: »
    By that logic Schevchenko should be excluded too?

    (he scored 14 in his first season)

    fair enough so.

    i would say in addition though, that Reyes played more games, and tended to be more impressive.

    i don't think he was a flop quite on the level of Shevchenko.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Sheva (around 30m) also cost about 3 times more than Reyes.

    None of which was re-couped.

    Whereas with Reyes, 8.5m of so of the 10.5m was got back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    noodler wrote: »
    You're not listening.

    Both got double figures in their first seasons.

    £31m for Shevchenko. He only scored 9 PL goals in his first season, the rest were in the Charity Shield, Carling Cup and Europe. Did you see the PL goals he scored - 2 yard tap-ins when they were already 3-0 up and Lampard or whoever feeling sorry for him and squaring it rather than scoring himself. He has to be the worst striker in PL history (which is a shame for the one of the best strikers i have ever seen).

    OK we can talk about Joe Bloggs who was bought for €3m and scored 3 goals in 50 appearances, half of them from the bench but then just look at Hull's sub bench or Bobby Zamora.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dubmick wrote: »
    Johan Elmander? Cost £8.2 million

    This guy has been bloody awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,072 ✭✭✭✭event


    Warper wrote: »
    Just because Kluivert and Shevchenko were so prolific before they moved to the Premiership does not mean they shouldnt be included in the list. They were just horrible in the PL and very expensive ones at that. For this reason alone Shevchenko has to be the worst ever PL signing of a striker.

    You could add Crespo and Asprilla to that list as well.

    you're joking, right?

    First year: 19 appearances, 10 goals
    Second Year: 30 appearances, 10 goals

    a lot of those were as sub appearances as well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Crespo never got a chance at Chelsea. Always liked him. Done the job before and after he was at Chelsea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    No mention of Collins "Fat Boy" Mbesuma?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_Mbesuma
    .....It was noted that he appeared overweight early in the season when playing for the reserve team. Collins never started a match for Portsmouth; he only came on for a total of 4 brief substitute appearances, all in the first half of the 2005/06 season. In July 2006 he began a season long loan with CS Marítimo where he appeared to be regaining his form - netting in vital goals early in the season and receiving the 'Swan d'Or', an auspicious monthly Portuguese football award. However his form soon dipped and his goal tally climaxed at a total of just seven goals. He returned to Portsmouth in June 2007 after playing 23 games for the Portuguese team.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,828 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Bosko Balaban has to be in the top ten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭The Volt


    Bosko Balaban has to be in the top ten.
    +1

    Morientes, Voronin and Dundee for Liverpool perhaps, Mido, John Spencer when he signed for Everton, Bakayoko but Stuart Barlow takes the biscuit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,519 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Warper wrote: »
    £31m for Shevchenko. He only scored 9 PL goals in his first season, the rest were in the Charity Shield, Carling Cup and Europe. Did you see the PL goals he scored - 2 yard tap-ins when they were already 3-0 up and Lampard or whoever feeling sorry for him and squaring it rather than scoring himself. He has to be the worst striker in PL history (which is a shame for the one of the best strikers i have ever seen).

    OK we can talk about Joe Bloggs who was bought for €3m and scored 3 goals in 50 appearances, half of them from the bench but then just look at Hull's sub bench or Bobby Zamora.

    So he scored 14 goals. Thats what I said. If we are going to get into the types of goals and the competitions scored in then this is going to get beyond messy.
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Sheva (around 30m) also cost about 3 times more than Reyes.

    None of which was re-couped.

    Whereas with Reyes, 8.5m of so of the 10.5m was got back.

    Again, I didn't think this mattered? If Keane had been bought from a foreign club he would be on that list despite the fee recouped (and despite the fact 7 goals in 5 monthes isn't all that bad!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Florin Radiciou has to be there as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Lists like these are a bit silly.
    Have the Italians create a list of worst strikers in the Serie A and Dennis Bergkamp would be on it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    inforfun wrote: »
    Lists like these are a bit silly.
    Have the Italians create a list of worst strikers in the Serie A and Dennis Bergkamp would be on it.....

    Same rules apply for Shevshenko and Crespo etc being flops in the EPL.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,072 ✭✭✭✭event


    again, if you look at crespo's record, he was far from a flop


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Dancor wrote: »
    Crespo never got a chance at Chelsea. Always liked him. Done the job before and after he was at Chelsea.

    Crespo's first season he had the highest goals to minutes on the pitch ratio in the prem. A lot better than Henry that year.

    What the stats don't tell you is pretty much all of his goals that he got at chelsea were with only getting on in the last 5 or 10 mins of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Voltwad wrote: »
    +1

    Morientes, Voronin and Dundee for Liverpool perhaps

    Dont forget Dribble Cisse


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