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    #62
    minidazzler
    Registered Users Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I have decided to kill a kitten for every hour the search function is down now. :)

    I'll mail the ears to the boards offices!:P

    I can haz search function?


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    #63
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    minidazzler wrote: »
    I have decided to kill a kitten for every hour the search function is down now. :)

    I'll mail the ears to the boards offices!:P

    Om nom nom...
    minidazzler wrote: »
    I can haz search function?

    If you can predict precisely how long it takes to build a full text index on a 7GB+ table on a specific hardware + software combination and figure out how to stop it crapping out arbitrarily then maybe I can give you an ETA.

    Until then, you'll have to wait like the rest of us.


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    #64
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Why?

    The well of good faith has dried up under a barren sun. Dried up and turned bitter. But I feel a rain is coming.


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    #65
    star-pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    minidazzler wrote: »
    I have decided to kill a kitten for every hour the search function is down now. :)

    I'll mail the ears to the boards offices!:P

    I can haz search function?

    wow wow wow.... no kitten killing... ever... *squinty eyes*


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    #66
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    star-pants wrote: »
    wow wow wow.... no kitten killing... ever... *squinty eyes*

    It's for the greater good. It'll keep Conor fed and happy based on his previous response, thus increasing the energy required to fix the problem. However, on the flip side, if he enjoys kitten ears too much, then he will stop working to keep the supply coming.

    Catch 22 indeed.


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    #67
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    "Hello you have reached Axis of Evil boards.ie HR deptment, could you kill a kitten?"


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    #68
    Sparky
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    Oh god not the kittens


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    #69
    Jumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Error page is now a permission denied page.

    *fears change*


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    #70
    TimTim
    Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭TimTim


    Conor wrote: »
    I'm not going to argue with you there. Long term, we have plans for replacing/working around vBulletin's search. It's not really suitable for the volume of data we have.

    I mentioned this a long time ago but people have managed to get sphinx search working with vbulletin.

    http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=127868

    No idea if that is the direction you are taking however.


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    #71
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    digitalspy is also a vbulletin site with about twice the volume of posts, the search facility seems to work grand. Is there much of a difference between the two under the hood?

    digitalspy
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 36082832
    Number of members: 347548
    Post per member ratio: 104
    Posts last week: 128902
    Alexa ranking: 3178

    boards.ie
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 15380071
    Number of members: 267789
    Post per member ratio: 57
    Posts last week: 95814
    Alexa ranking: 8804


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    #72
    Rev. BlueJeans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    Was wondering what the other big boys did as well myself. If its a resource issue, how did they resolve it?

    edit: DS seems to have much less, but in most cases, much larger fora.


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    #73
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    mike65 wrote: »
    digitalspy is also a vbulletin site with about twice the volume of posts, the search facility seems to work grand. Is there much of a difference between the two under the hood?

    digitalspy
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 36082832
    Number of members: 347548
    Post per member ratio: 104
    Posts last week: 128902
    Alexa ranking: 3178

    boards.ie
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 15380071
    Number of members: 267789
    Post per member ratio: 57
    Posts last week: 95814
    Alexa ranking: 8804

    Maybe it's time to give up on VB

    Statistics for: Gaia Online
    Anime roleplaying community
    http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/ind...

    Forum software: phpBB
    Number of posts: 1665742350
    Number of members: 19688569
    Post per member ratio: 85
    Posts last week: 3560285
    Alexa ranking: 1297


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    #74
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    According to Big-Boards.com, boards.ie has 2 front-end webservers and digitalspy has 6!

    Don't know if that's accurate


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    #75
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    mike65 wrote: »
    digitalspy is also a vbulletin site with about twice the volume of posts, the search facility seems to work grand. Is there much of a difference between the two under the hood?

    digitalspy
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 36082832
    Number of members: 347548
    Post per member ratio: 104
    Posts last week: 128902
    Alexa ranking: 3178

    boards.ie
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 15380071
    Number of members: 267789
    Post per member ratio: 57
    Posts last week: 95814
    Alexa ranking: 8804


    Its a management issue. It's about having a forward thinking CEO who puts resources in place before things fall over. I think with all the staff boards has at the moment working full time, that its about time the acting CEO pulled the finger out and got a full time professional in to run this place.


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    #76
    Rev. BlueJeans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    I'm no fan of many facets of the way this place plans ahead, but that would the same CEO* who oversaw the first dedicated employees join the site, the sourcing of a war chest to keep it on the rails, and brought commercial entities on board, no?

    (* I don't think TM ever called himself that, but I'm open to correction-certainly I'd see him as the supreme authority hereabouts).


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    #77
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Rev. BlueJeans wrote: »
    I'm no fan of many facets of the way this place plans ahead, but that would the same CEO* who oversaw the first dedicated employees join the site, the sourcing of a war chest to keep it on the rails, and brought commercial entities on board, no?

    (* I don't think TM ever called himself that, but I'm open to correction-certainly I'd see him as the supreme authority hereabouts).

    No. That all happened under the much loved Vexorg, it's severely disheartening to see such things being miss attributed.

    CEO is the correct term for the person who runs boards.ie LTD regardless of what title he gives himself.


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    #78
    Rev. BlueJeans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    I had no intention of diminishing Vex's massive role in the growth of boards. He is sorely missed by all, I'm sure of that.

    Nor would I diminish DeV's role. To do so would be most unfair.


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    #79
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Rev. BlueJeans wrote: »
    I had no intention of diminishing Vex's massive role in the growth of boards. He is sorely missed by all, I'm sure of that.

    True.

    This thread isn't really about the CEO's role. Though, I only mention it as ultimately where the buck stops.


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    #80
    Rev. BlueJeans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    Fair enough, man :)


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    #81
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I've been told several times the bottle neck is not the hardware but the software so why not change to something which can clearly handle a large site with a large user base.


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    #82
    TimTim
    Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭TimTim


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I've been told several times the bottle neck is not the hardware but the software so why not change to something which can clearly handle a large site with a large user base.

    My 2c on this is that the software that tends to scale high levels of users is either custom developed or very expensive. Boards is not representative of the type of use phpBB or vBulletin was designed for. I'm sure with enough time and hand holding you can get it to scale to huge levels however.


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    #83
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    TimTim wrote: »
    My 2c on this is that the software that tends to scale high levels of users is either custom developed or very expensive. Boards is not representative of the type of use phpBB or vBulletin was designed for. I'm sure with enough time and hand holding you can get it to scale to huge levels however.

    boards.ie
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 15380071
    Number of members: 267789
    Post per member ratio: 57
    Posts last week: 95814
    Alexa ranking: 8804

    Vs

    Statistics for: Gaia Online
    Forum software: phpBB
    Number of posts: 1665742350
    Number of members: 19688569
    Post per member ratio: 85
    Posts last week: 3560285
    Alexa ranking: 1297

    PhpBB handles bigger number on that site then what boards.ie currently has and gaiaonline has a hell of a lot more functionality as well as just search.

    Check it out for yourself.
    www.gaiaonline.com


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    #84
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    TimTim wrote: »
    I mentioned this a long time ago but people have managed to get sphinx search working with vbulletin.

    http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=127868

    No idea if that is the direction you are taking however.

    Sphinx and Solr are the two leading candidates for replacing vBulletin's search functionality.
    mike65 wrote: »
    digitalspy is also a vbulletin site with about twice the volume of posts, the search facility seems to work grand. Is there much of a difference between the two under the hood?

    digitalspy
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 36082832
    Number of members: 347548
    Post per member ratio: 104
    Posts last week: 128902
    Alexa ranking: 3178

    boards.ie
    Forum software: vBulletin
    Number of posts: 15380071
    Number of members: 267789
    Post per member ratio: 57
    Posts last week: 95814
    Alexa ranking: 8804

    I've no idea what they have different under the hood. As far as I know, most large sites don't run stock versions of the software they run on, so I doubt they're running a stock version of vBulletin.
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Maybe it's time to give up on VB

    Statistics for: Gaia Online
    Anime roleplaying community
    http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/ind...

    Forum software: phpBB
    Number of posts: 1665742350
    Number of members: 19688569
    Post per member ratio: 85
    Posts last week: 3560285
    Alexa ranking: 1297

    Gaia Online doesn't run phpBB in any real sense anymore. They've extensively hacked it to get more speed out of it.
    My name is URL wrote: »
    According to Big-Boards.com, boards.ie has 2 front-end webservers and digitalspy has 6!

    Don't know if that's accurate

    It's quite out of date. I suspect it's out of date for digitalspy too.

    We currently have 12 machines, 10 of which are directly involved in running boards.ie and adverts.ie.
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I've been told several times the bottle neck is not the hardware but the software so why not change to something which can clearly handle a large site with a large user base.

    There is no purpose-built software for running large forums that I know of. All the leading candidates appear to require modification to scale up.


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    #85
    ynotdu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    C'mon guys,Devore 'lent out'equipment to politics.ie for Lisbon! and are still waiting for it back!{seriously though i Really miss 'Todays posts'most of all:(}

    Conor had a meeting with Devore today to sort it all out,one of the Newspaper types snapped them working hard on the issue!


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    #86
    Sparky
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    LOL


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    #87
    sdanseo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    No problems with patience here folks, but it's becoming very hard for me to keep track of my threads and those in which I've contibuted. My post count has dropped a lot, I'm sure. I've read the announcements, but looking through this thread it seems that a critical capacity was reached, right?

    Any reason why this wasn't anticipated? Not really much use paying people to run the site (and no offence personally, lads, you do a stand up job 99.9% of the time) if little things like that get overlooked.

    If that's not the case then consider me corrected but I think having been a subscriber for a good long while now (not going to change as a result of this, btw) I get to whinge a bit ;)

    Any idea, realistically, when this will be sorted? Days, weeks, months etc?


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    #88
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    sdonn wrote: »
    No problems with patience here folks, but it's becoming very hard for me to keep track of my threads and those in which I've contibuted. My post count has dropped a lot, I'm sure. I've read the announcements, but looking through this thread it seems that a critical capacity was reached, right?

    Any reason why this wasn't anticipated? Not really much use paying people to run the site (and no offence personally, lads, you do a stand up job 99.9% of the time) if little things like that get overlooked.

    It's more complicated than that. When it's all done and I have time to write it all up, you'll get a full explanation.
    sdonn wrote: »
    Any idea, realistically, when this will be sorted? Days, weeks, months etc?

    Plan A: Days
    Plan B: Weeks
    Plan C: Weeks (more than Plan B)

    If I knew what solution would work, then I could tell you when it'll get sorted.


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    #89
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    ynotdu wrote: »
    C'mon guys,Devore 'lent out'equipment to politics.ie for Lisbon! and are still waiting for it back!{seriously though i Really miss 'Todays posts'most of all:(}

    Conor had a meeting with Devore today to sort it all out,one of the Newspaper types snapped them working hard on the issue!

    lol :D


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    #90
    Jumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Personally I would rather have a slow site that sometimes errors than have no search.
    I can understand a week after a major failure, but to be fair this is getting silly.


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    #91
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Personally I would rather have a slow site that sometimes errors than have no search.
    I can understand a week after a major failure, but to be fair this is getting silly.

    We're open to helpful, knowledgeable suggestions as to how we might get it working. If you're better at this stuff than we are, I'm all ears.


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