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Oil in rented accommodation

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  • 07-10-2009 5:08pm
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    Darksaga87
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    Hi, Im renting a house now, we are here about 2 months, when we moved in the oil tank was pretty much empty, it done us about a month.
    should the landlord fill the oil tank now? Its completely empty and as we just moved in we have feck all cash.

    So, should i ask the landlord to fill the tank?


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    Doolittle51
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Doolittle51


    Yea give him a call. And can you ask him to fill my tank too?

    Cheers.

    Free stuff is good.


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    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Why would the landlord pay for your oil?


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    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    Mate of mine moved into his house last week, he told them he wouldnt move in till the tank was full, it was filled and he moved in.


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    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    Mate of mine moved into his house last week, he told them he wouldnt move in till the tank was full, it was filled and he moved in.

    And when he moves out the landlord might expect him to leave a full tank?


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    petes
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    How does that apply to you? They are under no obligation to pay for you oil unless they stipulate that heating extra is included with the fee for rent each month.

    Maybe your mate had an agreement with the landlord?


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    The_Conductor
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    ttm wrote: »
    And when he moves out the landlord might expect him to leave a full tank?

    Probably not- norm would be for the landlord to fill it again- and deduct the cost from the deposit.

    OP- why do you imagine the landlord will give you a free tank of oil?


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    daviddwyer
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭daviddwyer


    OP- very little hope of Landlord supplying oil unless it is clearly stated in your contract. Heating, ESB, phones even bin charges in some places are not commonly included in the rent


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    The_Conductor
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    daviddwyer wrote: »
    even bin charges in some places are not commonly included in the rent

    Just out of curiousity- are bin charges ever included? The principle of bin charges is 'the polluter pays'. A landlord is obliged to provide a refuse collection service- they are under no obligation whatsoever to pay for it however......


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    the_syco
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    How long do you intend to stay there? Check the size of the tank, and get maybe a half-tank, and split the costs amongst yourselves.


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    petes
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    smccarrick wrote: »
    Just out of curiousity- are bin charges ever included? The principle of bin charges is 'the polluter pays'. A landlord is obliged to provide a refuse collection service- they are under no obligation whatsoever to pay for it however......


    You see it sometimes that bins are included in the monthly "rent" figure. Not very often though.


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    daviddwyer
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭daviddwyer


    Certainly in apartment complexs (which often includes duplex houses) bin charges are often included.... the Landlord paysvia the management company. Have seen a couple of places advertise bin charges included 9although in the current market Landlords are offering all kinds of perks). My brother rents a house in Kildare where bin and sky digital is included.


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    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    we just pay rent, everything else we pay ourselves, just wanted to ask here to see if anyone else had heard of it being done.
    Sorry for being a noob at the renting game, first time living out of home, when i heard of my mate getting his oil filled, i thought i might have an opportunity!

    oh well, if ya dont ask! :)


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    DO'Carlo/Wex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭DO'Carlo/Wex


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    first time living out of home
    1st Time? Best of Luck with that one then. Ye can't beat the feeling of having your' own independence.
    Even if you still bring home your' socks & jocks to Mammy Darksaga87 every weekend.
    Best of luck with it lad.


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    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    Cheers mate. But the missus does that sort of stuff!!!
    (kinda handy as the mothers washer broke down last week!)


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    dlambirl
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭dlambirl


    No your landlord isnt gonna get you oil! :eek:
    Its the tenants responsibility.
    Your friend might of got a full tank but they'll be expected to leave a full tank when they leave and if they dont it'll be taken out of the deposit.


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    #17
    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    I wouldnt mind if i could use my deposit!


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    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    if there was no agreement (in writing) to leave a full tank behind then the tenant who got the full tank out of the landlord doesn't need to.

    Deposit can only be withheld for rent arrears, unpaid bills and damage. Oil doesn't fit into that.

    However, filling the oil tank is the tenant's responsibility. The landlord can include a full tank of oil upon signing the lease to sweeten the deal in this economy but he/she is not obliged to do so.


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