Films of the 2000s

p to the e

10000maniacs wrote: »

Why? Because The Irish Times declares that this list represents the best in film-making over the last 10 years.
I can think of 20 more off the top of my head that deserve to be on the list because I think so. But I don't arrogantly publish my choices as a definitive list because quality is subjective. Art is subjective.

I think this is a good point. the writer doesn't seem to go overboard in expressing that it's just his opinion and not the final say in the matter. there are several films mentioned above that could have been included IN MY OPINION. i think Gone Baby Gone was a film worthy of the "definitive" list. more enjoyable than there will be blood anyway. although they have gone by the wayside in the last few years i think Saw was one of the most original and twisty films i've seen in a long time. No country for old men would have been a shoe in on my list and even though i'm usually confronted for it i think Zodiac was enthralling.

speedboatchase

Dickerty wrote: »

1 There Will Be Blood (2007)
2 Hidden/Caché (2005)
3 Spirited Away/Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (2001)
4 Mulholland Dr (2001)
5 Let the Right One In/Låt Den Rätte Komma In (2009)
6 In the Mood for Love/Fa Yeung Nin Wa (2000)
7 Far from Heaven (2002)
8 Hunger (2008)
9 Pan’s Labyrinth/El Laberinto del Fauno (2006)
10 Brokeback Mountain (2005)
11 Lost in Translation (2003)
12 The White Ribbon/Das Weiße Band (2009)
13 Wall-E (2008)
14 Oldboy/Hangui (2003)
15 I’m Not There (2007)
16 This Is England (2006)
17 A Serious Man (2009)
18 Team America: World Police (2004)
19 A History of Violence (2005)
20 Primer (2004)

Coen bros? Check. PT Anderson? Check. Bill Murray? Check. Bob Dylan in some way shape or form? Check

Very, very arty, as if they deliberately ignored American movies as much as possible, yet ignored some amazing foreign films (City of God, Y Tu Mama Tambien). This does not in any way reflect how I think most of us will look back on or remember the decade in film. It's as if the writer/publication wanted as little argument as possible so played it very safe, whilst throwing in that awful cliche of one or two "mainstream" picks (Team America) to show hey now hey now, we're just like you and can have a right laugh!!?!

ps. A Serious Man over No Country? Hmm, and where's Eternal Sunshine?

jaykhunter wrote: »

Can someone explain why Spirited Away was a good film? I heard great things about it, and I do like animated films, but I didn't see the appeal. I watched it and was thoroughly disappointed. I didn't even think it was alright.

I re-watched it and it clicked for me. The first time it was bizarre, I couldn't follow the message/metaphors etc but on a rewatch it made a lot more sense and now I discover new things every time I watch and love it. Not that I mean that will necessarily be the same for you

uncleoswald

speedboatchase wrote: »

Coen bros? Check. PT Anderson? Check. Bill Murray? Check. Bob Dylan in some way shape or form? Check

Yes because if he had left out a Coen bros. or PT Anderson he wouldn't have gotten any grief :rolleyes:

Very, very arty, as if they deliberately ignored American movies as much as possible, yet ignored some amazing foreign films (City of God, Y Tu Mama Tambien).

Ignored or just slightly preferred other foreign films? And are you not just a little peeved that he didn't put in the American movies that you love so you decided that he "deliberately ignored" them? Also I could claim that by naming movies such as Y Tu Mama Tambian you are only trying to look artsy.

This does not in any way reflect how I think most of us will look back on or remember the decade in film. It's as if the writer/publication wanted as little argument as possible so played it very safe,

So he tried to have as little argument as possible by going against what most people think? Hmmmm, well its certainly a novel tactic.... And how is not including The Lives of Others, No County and the Dark Night while including the fashionable to hate Lost in Translation playing it safe?

whilst throwing in that awful cliche of one or two "mainstream" picks (Team America) to show hey now hey now, we're just like you and can have a right laugh!!?!

Or maybe he just really loves Team America and hasn't stopped banging on about since its release? Its a bit snobbish to think that the Irish Times film critic couldn't possibly like Team America isn't it?

ps. A Serious Man over No Country? Hmm, and where's Eternal Sunshine?

This is what it really comes down to isn't it? This arrogant movie critic has the gall to have slightly different taste to you? He says in the link above that both of those movies would have made it if it was a "top 25," along with Adaptation, Dead Man's Shoes and The Decent. But I'm sure including The Decent would have just been another desperate attempt to look fun and unstuffy wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by p to the e
I think this is a good point. the writer doesn't seem to go overboard in expressing that it's just his opinion and not the final say in the matter. there are several films mentioned above that could have been included IN MY OPINION.

What more should he have done, considering it was called "Donald Clarke's Top 20 Movies of the Decade?" Should he have wrote IN MY OPINION at the end of every film?

and even though i'm usually confronted for it i think Zodiac was enthralling.

Well I don't think Donald Clarke would confront you for it as IN HIS OPINION it was great also. I think it even made his top ten of that year.

Originally Posted by Nolanger The top 20 films released in Ireland maybe? Bet there are plenty of South American and Asian movies this decade that are just as good as anything on that list?

Whats wrong with the three Asian films on the list? And yes I presume its only the movies released in Ireland in the last decade.

faceman

In my experience, these lists are done by the media more so to create a discussion than anything else.

IMO the critic added "A Serious Man" and not "No Country.." to be controversial. The film is far too recent to really be considered in a top 10 list of the decade. (Granted I havent seen Serious Man yet)

speedboatchase

uncleoswald wrote: »

Yes because if he had left out a Coen bros. or PT Anderson he wouldn't have gotten any grief :rolleyes:

Ignored or just slightly preferred other foreign films? And are you not just a little peeved that he didn't put in the American movies that you love so you decided that he "deliberately ignored" them? Also I could claim that by naming movies such as Y Tu Mama Tambian you are only trying to look artsy.


So he tried to have as little argument as possible by going against what most people think? Hmmmm, well its certainly a novel tactic.... And how is not including The Lives of Others, No County and the Dark Night while including the fashionable to hate Lost in Translation playing it safe?

Or maybe he just really loves Team America and hasn't stopped banging on about since its release? Its a bit snobbish to think that the Irish Times film critic couldn't possibly like Team America isn't it?

This is what it really comes down to isn't it? This arrogant movie critic has the gall to have slightly different taste to you? He says in the link above that both of those movies would have made it if it was a "top 25," along with Adaptation, Dead Man's Shoes and The Decent. But I'm sure including The Decent would have just been another desperate attempt to look fun and unstuffy wouldn't it?



What more should he have done, considering it was called "Donald Clarke's Top 20 Movies of the Decade?" Should he have wrote IN MY OPINION at the end of every film?



Well I don't think Donald Clarke would confront you for it as IN HIS OPINION it was great also. I think it even made his top ten of that year.

Whats wrong with the three Asian films on the list? And yes I presume its only the movies released in Ireland in the last decade.

speedboatchase wrote: »

Also, one last thing - Apartheid was wrong and killing baby pandas can NEVER be excused

AHA! I see you argued with every single sentence I wrote except for that one. Checkmate :pac:

uncleoswald

speedboatchase wrote: »

AHA! I see you argued with every single sentence I wrote except for that one. Checkmate :pac:

Well I guessed you just said those two things to spark debate.

And baby panda tastes awesome.

taytothief

That list is pure b*llocks and doesn't deserve a thread if you ask me.

Karl Hungus

taytothief wrote: »

That list is pure b*llocks and doesn't deserve a thread if you ask me.

What's bollocks about it?

I think it's a pretty solid list, quite a few things I'd change about it as well (yes, I'd stick The Lives of Others in there too), but it does showcase a great many exceptional films. And honestly, seeing A History Of Violence in a list like this gives me quite a bit of glee, I absolutely loved it.

Chardee MacDennis

Primer? good film, but confusing as hell not sure if it deserves top 20. seems to be a "i saw this really cool film none of you have heard of, so therefore i know more about films thatn you" stuck on the bottom of the list (like most music lists).

Nolanger

Bet there have been some great Bollywood films this decade but the arty Irish Times probably have never watched even one?

p to the e

uncleoswald wrote: »

Yes because if he had left out a Coen bros. or PT Anderson he wouldn't have gotten any grief :rolleyes:

Ignored or just slightly preferred other foreign films? And are you not just a little peeved that he didn't put in the American movies that you love so you decided that he "deliberately ignored" them? Also I could claim that by naming movies such as Y Tu Mama Tambian you are only trying to look artsy.


So he tried to have as little argument as possible by going against what most people think? Hmmmm, well its certainly a novel tactic.... And how is not including The Lives of Others, No County and the Dark Night while including the fashionable to hate Lost in Translation playing it safe?

Or maybe he just really loves Team America and hasn't stopped banging on about since its release? Its a bit snobbish to think that the Irish Times film critic couldn't possibly like Team America isn't it?

This is what it really comes down to isn't it? This arrogant movie critic has the gall to have slightly different taste to you? He says in the link above that both of those movies would have made it if it was a "top 25," along with Adaptation, Dead Man's Shoes and The Decent. But I'm sure including The Decent would have just been another desperate attempt to look fun and unstuffy wouldn't it?



What more should he have done, considering it was called "Donald Clarke's Top 20 Movies of the Decade?" Should he have wrote IN MY OPINION at the end of every film?



Well I don't think Donald Clarke would confront you for it as IN HIS OPINION it was great also. I think it even made his top ten of that year.

Whats wrong with the three Asian films on the list? And yes I presume its only the movies released in Ireland in the last decade.

Is that you Donald Clarke?

krudler

No Fight Club? was a 2000 release over here so it should be counted

edy: atually it was Nov 1999 here, always thought it was early 2000 for some reason, ah well

cashback

Nolanger wrote: »

Bet there have been some great Bollywood films this decade but the arty Irish Times probably have never watched even one?

You bet? Have you watched any? I don't know many Irish people who watch Bollywood films.

pwd

1 There Will Be Blood (2007) great
2 Hidden/Caché (2005) dunno
3 Spirited Away/Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (2001) great
4 Mulholland Dr (2001) don't remember
5 Let the Right One In/Låt Den Rätte Komma In (2009) great
6 In the Mood for Love/Fa Yeung Nin Wa (2000) dunno
7 Far from Heaven (2002) dunno
8 Hunger (2008) dunno
9 Pan’s Labyrinth/El Laberinto del Fauno (2006) didn't like it
10 Brokeback Mountain (2005) dunno
11 Lost in Translation (2003) overrated; barely ok
12 The White Ribbon/Das Weiße Band (2009) dunno
13 Wall-E (2008) great
14 Oldboy/Hangui (2003) great
15 I’m Not There (2007) dunno
16 This Is England (2006) dunno
17 A Serious Man (2009) dunno
18 Team America: World Police (2004) good
19 A History of Violence (2005) ok/good
20 Primer (2004) dunno

I really like most of the films I've seen in that list. So hopefully checking out the others in the list will reveal a couple more films I like a lot.

edit: I think that's the point of these lists really - to suggest films you might like.

Sanjuro

Dickerty wrote: »

There Will Be Blood better than Brokeback or Lost in Translation? Me thinks not. But it's all just opinions.

Yes. Much, much better.

Nice to see some mention of In The Mood For Love. Would deffo make it into my 20 of the decade.

uncleoswald

p to the e wrote: »

Is that you Donald Clarke?

I was waiting for that to be honest.

No I just find it weird that people get so agitated by lists like this. And hypocritical and contradictory.

And yes I also find that much of the time Donald Clarkes reviews are more entertaining the the films themselves. No pretensions but knows his stuff and is actually funny. Certainly better then the likes you find in Empire et all.... which I know is faint praise.

builttospill

I just read through this entire thread and got so frustrated by some of the opinions. Some people are lambasting that list yet they freely admit they haven't seen some of the films! Some people say it's a very "arty" list??!! No it's not! It's fairly depressing that some posters on a film forum still equate foreign films to "arty" films. I would have thought that each and every one of those films would have been seen by anyone who claims to love cinema.

This brings me on to my next point-all this is just personal taste at a hierarchy of levels, ie I'm sure you people who think that list is pretentious would turn your nose up at someone who liked, let's say, Basic Instinct 2? Well personally I think Basic Instinct 2 is great cos it works within its genre (Now I'm just saying this to make a point, I'm not saying it should be on a best film list!) However, very few would entertain this film cos it's "not cool." Then at the same time people here are mentioning flawed films like The Dark Knight and Eternal Sunshine which in my opinion don't deserve any mention on a best film list. I could go on all day as to why not but it would just become a debate about film theory and other technical elements of said films so I would just be going off topic.

Now, back to this list. Yes these lists are completely irrelevant when they are tossed into the public domain cos everyones tastes are subjective. However, strangely enough the top 2 films on that list would be my top 2 as well but I would actually have Cache/Hidden as number 1 and There will be Blood as number 2. I really can't fathom how some people here haven't seen Cache/Hidden. It was on general release and you will get it in any dvd shop in the country. You can't have an opinion on something if you haven't experienced it. My third favourite film of the decade would be Hunger which is mentioned in the list. All in all I think that list is pretty concise but I agree with people that The Lives of Others and City of God should be up there. I also think 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days could possibly merit a place.

All this baiting of Donald Clarke and the Irish Times is nothing more than inadvertent snobbery from a certain element that would no doubt be equally patronising and pretentious to others when it came to certain films they think are below them for whatever the reasons may be. As has been said countless times-each to their own.

And no...I don't give a toss about Donald Clarke or The Irish Times. For me it's all about the films.

Nolanger

cashback wrote: »

You bet? Have you watched any? I don't know many Irish people who watch Bollywood films.

Well if he hasn't watched any then how can he claim that his list of films are the best of the decade? If he said "the best films he has seen this decade" then fair enough but it's a bit arrogant to be ignoring Bollywood - the world's second largest film industry.

builttospill

Nolanger wrote: »

Bet there have been some great Bollywood films this decade but the arty Irish Times probably have never watched even one?

LOL. I was going to pull you up on this last night but I'd already said my bit and I didn't have time. What does this statement even mean? Seriously? First off you are suggesting something that you don't even know the answer to. Then you call the Irish Times "arty." How is it "arty"? (such a fcuking stupid word) The Irish Times is a solid broadsheet newspaper. It's not an underground art magazine written by stuckists. Just cos you haven't seen some of the films and you disagree with the reviewer doesn't make it (again I have to say it with clenched teeth) "arty." This is just ridiculous. Please read my previous post with regards to taste and pretension.

I actually studied Bollywood cinema as part of my Masters. There haven't been any really great films. It's all style over substance. Now again this is just my opinion but I'd like to think because I've seen a few I have a valid opinion.

Nolanger

The Irish Times wouldn't know a good film unless they've been told it's good. How can someone claim the above list are the best of the decade when they've only probably seen about 1% of all movies made in the last ten years? It's the usual western ideal that English language movies are better than foreign-language ones. The best films this decade came from places like Iran/Romania/Korea. Rubbish like Far From Heaven only appeals to people who have never seen a Douglas Sirk picture. Isn't it strange that all these great films happen to have got a cinema release in Ireland and nothing else is worth considering? If the Irish Times wanted to be honest they would have said "the best Irish movies we've seen this decade". Now they'll be all these people watching the above twenty films and thinking that that's the best there is.

S.M.B.

Nolanger wrote: »

The Irish Times wouldn't know a good film unless they've been told it's good. How can someone claim the above list are the best of the decade when they've only probably seen about 1% of all movies made in the last ten years? It's the usual western ideal that English language movies are better than foreign-language ones. The best films this decade came from places like Iran/Romania/Korea. Rubbish like Far From Heaven only appeals to people who have never seen a Douglas Sirk picture. Isn't it strange that all these great films happen to have got a cinema release in Ireland and nothing else is worth considering? If the Irish Times wanted to be honest they would have said "the best Irish movies we've seen this decade". Now they'll be all these people watching the above twenty films and thinking that that's the best there is.

Looks like you've got the opposite ideal. Foreign-Language movies are better than English ones.

Can't believe there's so much complaining going on over the list. I think it's decent enough but I'm not stupid enough to take it as some conclusive list of the decades best movies.

Also, how ignorant is it to say the likes of "This list is a load of rubbish, Movie x, y and z should be the top 3".

builttospill

Nolanger wrote: »

The Irish Times wouldn't know a good film unless they've been told it's good. How can someone claim the above list are the best of the decade when they've only probably seen about 1% of all movies made in the last ten years? It's the usual western ideal that English language movies are better than foreign-language ones. The best films this decade came from places like Iran/Romania/Korea. Rubbish like Far From Heaven only appeals to people who have never seen a Douglas Sirk picture. Isn't it strange that all these great films happen to have got a cinema release in Ireland and nothing else is worth considering? If the Irish Times wanted to be honest they would have said "the best Irish movies we've seen this decade". Now they'll be all these people watching the above twenty films and thinking that that's the best there is.

Ok well this is a different point altogether. I was pulling you up on your last one. You are right in saying that your man Clarke probably hasn't seen a few outstanding movies that have slipped under his radar. I don't know but it's possible. I watch about 2 films a day from all over the world and I'm sure there are a couple of clinkers I've missed.

However, the really good films are usually always uncovered through the domino effect of reviews and word of mouth. It may start off on a small, local level but if a film is really good it will generally take off, do well in festivals and then be distributed on a wider scale. I imagine there are very few brilliant films that haven't been seen globally.

You say The Irish Times wouldn't know a good film unless they've been told it's good. Again what do you mean? Donald Clarke compiled a list of films he has seen and believes are the best this decade. Bearing in mind we all agree that a list like this is subjective I don't really see what the problem is. In fact I would probably agree with about 8 films on that list. That's a sizeable chunk out of 20.

You then say that it's the "usual western ideal that English language movies are better than foreign-language ones." Again what are you talking about? To be honest I think foreign language films get a much better ride than their English language counterparts. Actually sometimes I end up getting really pissed off when I see a brilliant review of a foreign language film from some hack journo who thinks subtitles equals art when in fact the film turns out to be total garbage.

You then say the best films from this decade came from Iran/Romania/Korea. Could you enlighten me as to which films you are referring to? I know a couple of films from these countries that are great but the only one I would have in a best film list is the aformentioned 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days. Korean films tend to be excessively stylized for my liking but of course again all this is subjective. You complain about the Irish Times being arty but then you wax lyrical about Iranian/Romanian/Korean film? Your posts are all over the shop.

And again what does your last point mean? The The Irish Times should have said "the best Irish movies we've seen this decade?" None of them are Irish. Maybe this was a typo on your part. You then say "Isn't it strange that all these great films happen to have got a cinema release in Ireland and nothing else is worth considering?" ONE LAST TIME-WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? That statement can't even be deconstructed. The amount of world cinema at one's disposal in Ireland is immense. Hell I live in Kilkenny and I see everything.

That list is just one person's opinion. Big deal. If people who read it swear by it then I don't have any sympathy for their gullibility.

milnerr3

There will be Blood would also, definately be at the top of my list...
Also very much looking forward to seeing 'Nine'...the story of Guido Contini, with Daniel Day Lewis in the leading role...i have no doubt that it will be good enough to feature in the list in the future!

uncleoswald

Nolanger wrote: »

The Irish Times wouldn't know a good film unless they've been told it's good. How can someone claim the above list are the best of the decade when they've only probably seen about 1% of all movies made in the last ten years? It's the usual western ideal that English language movies are better than foreign-language ones. The best films this decade came from places like Iran/Romania/Korea. Rubbish like Far From Heaven only appeals to people who have never seen a Douglas Sirk picture. Isn't it strange that all these great films happen to have got a cinema release in Ireland and nothing else is worth considering? If the Irish Times wanted to be honest they would have said "the best Irish movies we've seen this decade". Now they'll be all these people watching the above twenty films and thinking that that's the best there is.

Wow, you seem incredibly prejudiced against the Times. I think you should take it for granted that they are not claiming to have seen every single film that has come out in the whole world in the last 10 years (that would be moronic) and this is just a list of the best films(again, take it for granted they just mean in their opinion) that they have watched, and could be expected to have watched. Why would they send their critics around the world to watch films that weren't going to be released here? I think they have enough financial woes as it is. Also you should probably note that the best films from those countries you mentioned do tend to get a limited release here or get shown at film festivals and The Times do review (generally favourably) them so maybe they simply disagree with you, the arrogant swines.

Rubbish like Far From Heaven only appeals to people who have never seen a Douglas Sirk picture.

Of course many people who count themselves as huge Douglas Sirk fans think Far From Heaven was a wonderful homage to Douglas Sirk.

Nolanger

builttospill wrote: »

Donald Clarke compiled a list of films he has seen and believes are the best this decade.

That is my point - Donald Clarke is a critic for the Irish Times whose function is to review movies released in Ireland. His job is not to tour the world scouring for hidden cinema treasures. If he did this he would have compiled a more interesting top 20 list. Most films released in Ireland have already been reviewed in other countries first so critics like Donald Clarke are just parroting what's already been said. What films has DC discovered for himself in the last ten years and pushed in the IT? It's just a derivative, predictable list of films without even one surprise title for people who think they must be good because they've received so much acclaim. Why is there not even one film that performed badly at the box office on this list? It's just safe, uncontroversial choices that reflect the IT's middle-brow outlook on cinema.
"The top twenty films released in CineWorld this decade!".

S.M.B.

Give us examples of a few of these hidden gems that wouldn't have been considered then?

builttospill

Nolanger wrote: »

That is my point - Donald Clarke is a critic for the Irish Times whose function is to review movies released in Ireland. His job is not to tour the world scouring for hidden cinema treasures. If he did this he would have compiled a more interesting top 20 list. Most films released in Ireland have already been reviewed in other countries first so critics like Donald Clarke are just parroting what's already been said. What films has DC discovered for himself in the last ten years and pushed in the IT? It's just a derivative, predictable list of films without even one surprise title for people who think they must be good because they've received so much acclaim. Why is there not even one film that performed badly at the box office on this list? It's just safe, uncontroversial choices that reflect the IT's middle-brow outlook on cinema.
"The top twenty films released in CineWorld this decade!".

But you said it was "arty" a few posts back. Now it's a derivative, predictable list? What are you talking about? You are spoofing here. This is all pretty simple. It's not up to Donald Clarke to discover films exclusively for this list (AGAIN WHAT ARE YOU RAMBLING ON ABOUT?). He is compiling a list of films he thinks are the best this decade. If someone asked me to do this I wouldn't head out looking for obscure films I or indeed nobody else has seen. I would simply make up a list of the best films I have seen. This is what he did. What you just said is completely irrelevant. LOL. What is it you don't understand? Listen this is a waste of time. You're flying off on tangents and this is one of those arguments that will end up going around in circles and I don't have the time or patience to waste.

Nolanger

A good critic would indeed 'discover' films and also champion lesser known titles. The fact that DC is only limiting his list to what has been released in this country and is calling these the greatest of the decade is just silly and narrow-minded. The fact that none of ye can see this is just sad!

SOD's Lovechild

I would expect a good critic to discover films and bring them to a wider audience. Listing the Best 20 films of the decade isn't the time to do that though. The list is fine despite American films being too highly represented.

Wacker

krudler wrote: »

No Fight Club? was a 2000 release over here so it should be counted

edy: atually it was Nov 1999 here, always thought it was early 2000 for some reason, ah well

I went on my 18th birthday. November 13th 1999. Just so you know.

I was delighted to see There Will Be Blood come in number one. It has a level of dignity and class to it that I have not seen since The Godfather. Absolute dynamite. Donald Clarke, I. READ. YOUR. NEWSPAPER!!! I READ IT UP!!!

uncleoswald

Nolanger wrote: »

A good critic would indeed 'discover' films and also champion lesser known titles. The fact that DC is only limiting his list to what has been released in this country and is calling these the greatest of the decade is just silly and narrow-minded. The fact that none of ye can see this is just sad!

Championing yes, including them in this list to look knowledgeable no. As a matter of interest can you name some of these films that got no sort of release here in the last ten years that you feel its so narrow-minded to leave out?

Nolanger

Why should I? There are plenty of sites offering their top 100 movies of the decade. Many titles on these lists never got a comercial release in Ireland. The IT top 20 is too narrow-minded!

uncleoswald

Nolanger wrote: »

Why should I? There are plenty of sites offering their top 100 movies of the decade. Many titles on these lists never got a comercial release in Ireland. The IT top 20 is too narrow-minded!

I wish there was a button to leave a sarcastic thanks.

daithibaru

I can't pick mine in an exact order, I'd be here through to next decade. City of God I think was the best, after that I can't choose one

City of God
Zodiac
There Will Be Blood
The Fellowship of the Ring
Toy Story 2
Magnolia
Pan's Labyrinth
The Bourne Ultimatum
The Dark Knight
Moulin Rouge

Wacker

daithibaru wrote: »

Toy Story 2

1999. Just so you know!

S.M.B.

Nolanger wrote: »

Why should I? There are plenty of sites offering their top 100 movies of the decade. Many titles on these lists never got a comercial release in Ireland. The IT top 20 is too narrow-minded!

So we might have an idea about what the hell you're ranting on about?

My understanding is that you believe Donald Clarke has no right to comment on what he believes to be the best 20 films of the decade without having seen every single great film that has been released over the past 10 years.

On top of this, he is not allowed to listen to any sort of feedback from others as this would be just "parroting what's already been said" so must discover these great movies for himself thus requiring him to pretty much see every film released in the past decade.

Nolanger

DC should be claiming these films to be the best he's reviewed. Also, every film on his list had already been reviewed by critics in other countries so his own reviews of these films would not have been important anyway. Hence his top 20 is about as relevant as anything on this thread.

Raging Bob

What the hell are you on about Nolanger? It's a list. Big deal.

Sleazus

Nolanger wrote: »

DC should be claiming these films to be the best he's reviewed. Also, every film on his list had already been reviewed by critics in other countries so his own reviews of these films would not have been important anyway. Hence his top 20 is about as relevant as anything on this thread.

And now Donald Clarke presents the top 20 films of the decade he hasn't seen, but has heard are great! No, in that case somebody else would have had to have seen the film, invalidating his opinion in your eyes. Maybe Donald Clarke's top twenty home videos of the 00's?

I think it's an unspoken assumption that there's no such thing as an objectively best film and that anyone making a list of their favourite films is only including ones they've seen.

Unless the viral campaign was really good.

daithibaru

Wacker wrote: »

1999. Just so you know!

released over here february 2000

Snake Plisken

Aidric wrote: »

There Will Be Blood is a critics wet dream it seems but imo it's vastly overrated. I'd have The Lives Of Others before it in a heartbeat. The rest of the list isn't bad tbf although I rate Eastern Promises a better film than A History of Violence.

agree with u on There will be blood overrated by a long shot with very hammy acting by Daniel

bnt

My thoughts on the list, the ones I've seen:

Dickerty wrote: »

1 There Will Be Blood (2007) = v. good
3 Spirited Away/Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (2001) = excellent
4 Mulholland Dr (2001) = v. good
5 Let the Right One In/Låt Den Rätte Komma In (2009) = excellent
9 Pan’s Labyrinth/El Laberinto del Fauno (2006) = excellent
10 Brokeback Mountain (2005) = excellent
11 Lost in Translation (2003) = excellent
17 A Serious Man (2009) = excellent
18 Team America: World Police (2004) = good

A few serious omissions there, many already mentioned, such as the LotR films. City Of God, Mystic River or Gladiator could have been in there too, but the big one that stood out to me, in its absence, was Gosford Park. When I saw this list, I realised I hadn't seen it in years, so I watched it again this evening. Even better than I remembered, the film that got me (and critics) to take a fresh look at Altman's back catalogue.

PS: Team America was great, but better than the South Park movie? I think not!

gazzer

How in gods name is Hidden on that list? One of the worst movies I have ever seen.

budgemook

There is a thread going about the best movies of 2009 but seeing as it's also the end of the decade, as well as the year, I thought I'd start a best movies of the decade thread.

Here are a few to get started:

• High Fidelity - Possibly best movie adaptation of a book ever
• LOTR Fellowship - best of the 3
• Donnie Darko - One of my favourite movies ever
• Slumdog Millionaire - Something new(ish)
• The Departed - An instant classic, a real return to form for Scorsese

magma69

Loving your inclusion of High Fidelity. Criminally overlooked/underrated flick. It's one of those feel good movies that make me feel warm and fuzzy inside:)

Here is a few off the top of me head:
City of God
Requiem For A Dream
Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind
Mulholland Drive
There Will Be Blood
Pan's Labyrinth
Into The Wild
Downfall
Wall-E
Adaptation
Memento
Snatch
Dancer In The Dark
Memories Of Murder
Amores Perros

Sleazus

I made my own top 50 of the decade on my blog (nerdy, I know!), but Collateral, The Prestige, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Departed, Finding Nemo and The Dark Knight are right up there at any rate.

Wacker

There Will Be Blood is my number one anyway. Eternal Sunshine would be number two. Things get hazy after that.

uncleoswald

There already is a thread here if you want to merge them or whatever:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055703983

bnt

Another thread at http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055756596

irish_bob

gladiator
lord of the rings trilogy but i like the 1st one the best
million dollar baby
casino royale
pans labyrinth
oceans 11
collatoral
appocolypto
the dark knight
beouwulf