US finest, cop scum

SLUSK

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/marshawn-pitts-cop-caught_n_312354.html

A kid gets assaulted by a copper for not having his shirt tucked in, seems that US cops are really ****ed up. There are huge numbers of clips like this showing police brutality. Add stuff like patriot act and war against terrorism.

What can you say, the US is no longer the land of the free, it is a fascist police state.

Red Hand

Its a country of a couple hundred million people. Glad to know that they are all fascists...no Karl Marx Day there, so.

SLUSK

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Its a country of a couple hundred million people. Glad to know that they are all fascists...no Karl Marx Day there, so.

The merger of state and corporate powers is by Mussolini's own definition fascism. That is what is happening. Ask Gerald Celente.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTelHa2hUyI

And I am in no way a socialist or communist.

Jesus Wept

SLUSK wrote: »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/marshawn-pitts-cop-caught_n_312354.html

A kid gets assaulted by a copper for not having his shirt tucked in, seems that US cops are really ****ed up. There are huge numbers of clips like this showing police brutality. Add stuff like patriot act and war against terrorism.

What can you say, the US is no longer the land of the free, it is a fascist police state.

That link is to amazon.

SLUSK

Weird.

This link should work.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/marshawn-pitts-cop-caught_n_312354.html

Overheal

Thats awful.






But fascist police state: that old chestnut?

The merger of state and corporate powers is by Mussolini's own definition fascism.

What does that at all have to do with an imbalanced school deputy?

Manic Moran

That individual certainly appears to have been out of line.

I agree with Overheal, though, the US law enforcement agencies obviously aren't very good fascists. I've not had any encounters more unpleasant than a couple of ticking-offs for speeding. (No ticket). They must be doing something wrong, I'm not living in cowering fear of them...

NTM

Fr Tod Umptious

SLUSK wrote: »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/marshawn-pitts-cop-caught_n_312354.html

A kid gets assaulted by a copper for not having his shirt tucked in, seems that US cops are really ****ed up. There are huge numbers of clips like this showing police brutality. Add stuff like patriot act and war against terrorism.

What can you say, the US is no longer the land of the free, it is a fascist police state.

Have you ever lived there ?

Nodin

SLUSK wrote: »

What can you say, the US is no longer the land of the free, it is a fascist police state.

'brutal cops' are not new. Not remotely. Nor is this incident connected to anything that could justify the use of 'fascist police state'.

DoireNod

Nodin wrote: »

'brutal cops' are not new. Not remotely. Nor is this incident connected to anything that could justify the use of 'fascist police state'.

Police brutality certainly isn't new, but the gradual increase of state-sanctioned oppression is arguably an indication of where the USA is headed.

Out of interest, what would you say would justify the use of the term 'fascist police state'?

Manic Moran

I don't see how this incident can be considered 'State-sponsored oppression', it looks if anything to be a case of battery by an individual who happens to be an employee of the State. (Or at least a subdivision thereof)

NTM

DoireNod

Manic Moran wrote: »

I don't see how this incident can be considered 'State-sponsored oppression', it looks if anything to be a case of battery by an individual who happens to be an employee of the State. (Or at least a subdivision thereof)

NTM

Yeah, fair enough. It's basically one guy who is an asshole being an asshole. He just happens to have a badge.

Overheal

Manic Moran wrote: »

I don't see how this incident can be considered 'State-sponsored oppression', it looks if anything to be a case of battery by an individual who happens to be an employee of the State. (Or at least a subdivision thereof)

NTM

further to that point, He's on the County payroll, which is on the payroll of the state before the payroll of the Federal Govt.

It makes Illinois fascist, maayyybe...

dresden8

Cha-Ching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Overheal

My point was for the US to be fascist the federal government would have to be in direct control of state and county police: they are far from it. And you would be hard pressed convincing me the CIA/FBI/SS made him do it.

DoireNod

Overheal wrote: »

My point was for the US to be fascist the federal government would have to be in direct control of state and county police: they are far from it. And you would be hard pressed convincing me the CIA/FBI/SS made him do it.

The SS!?! You mean America is fascist after all?



I jest, of course.

Overheal

Secret Service... but hey you found a Godwin. Well done you.

DoireNod

I knew it was the Secret Service, but I went after the cookie. I'll take it.

Nodin

DoireNod wrote: »

Police brutality certainly isn't new, but the gradual increase of state-sanctioned oppression is arguably an indication of where the USA is headed.

Its a gobshite acting the hardman in a special needs school. Now if there was a squad put there by the (local or federal )state whose job it was to beat the crap out of people whose shirts weren't tucked in, that would be state sanctioned oppression.

DoireNod wrote: »

Out of interest, what would you say would justify the use of the term 'fascist police state'?

Systematic organised repression across 52 states by the central government, with far harsher regulation of all media.

passive

Overheal wrote: »

further to that point, He's on the County payroll, which is on the payroll of the state before the payroll of the Federal Govt.

It makes Illinois fascist, maayyybe...

I hate Illnois Nazis...

RedPlanet

Nodin wrote: »

Systematic organised repression across 52 states by the central government, with far harsher regulation of all media.

Wow you're setting the bar pretty high.
There are only 50 states in the USA.

Nodin

RedPlanet wrote: »

Wow you're setting the bar pretty high.
There are only 50 states in the USA.

I plead being Irish, yer honour.

(where the hell did I get 52 from?....That what ye get for posting before coffee)

JohnMc1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

Overheal

Nodin wrote: »

I plead being Irish, yer honour.

(where the hell did I get 52 from?....That what ye get for posting before coffee)

and yet irish folk still love to point fingers when people assume your part of the uk

JohnMc1

Nodin wrote: »

I plead being Irish, yer honour.

(where the hell did I get 52 from?....That what ye get for posting before coffee)

Don't worry. Even Obama made that mistake.

Overheal

In his Defence im sure he got confused since Hawaii is an island chain. :pac:

SteveS

Disturbing, but I don't know if it is part of a broader problem. I would certainly say that Chicago police have a lousy reputation in terms of corruption and covering up brutality. As for any trends, I would say the rise in paramilitary police units and tactics is not something I am completely comfortable with.

Manic Moran

Shot an email to the CHP recruiting dept today. It's my last year of eligibility to become a jackbooted thug in the service of the State. (And it seems to pay better than the FBI, surprisingly)

Not sure I'm going to enjoy the Academy, mind.

NTM

Overheal

And how is sasha going to take the news? She'll miss you.

Manic Moran

I sadly said goodbye to Barely Legal about five years ago, and to Diplomatic Incident two years back.



However, I will still retain the keys to the Paddywagon for a while yet.


Who's to say I can't do both jobs?

NTM

SteveS

Manic Moran wrote: »

Shot an email to the CHP recruiting dept today. It's my last year of eligibility to become a jackbooted thug in the service of the State. (And it seems to pay better than the FBI, surprisingly)

Not sure I'm going to enjoy the Academy, mind.

NTM

Good luck. Sorry, but you knew this was coming: