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Our Lady to appear in Knock on Sunday

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    #512
    kinetic
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭kinetic


    I read about it today in a great article in the times,nearly cracked up.The description of some of the "devotees" was hilarious.
    Especially the one in the leopard print trilby.


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    #513
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Haven't most, if not all, apparitions in history been ridiculed at the time of their sighting? And also by the Catholic church. The Catholic church never announces something as genuine straight away as it can easily be made up/faked. Didn't they take ages to pronounce the Lourdes vision genuine?
    I for one am not ashamed to say I believe this occured. Live and let live is right. You often hear atheists say 'Believe what you want, just don't force anything on us', and yet they feel free to mock, belittle and ridicule as much as they want. That is also forcing your opinion on some-one else.


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    #514
    Quint
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    Was funny when anyone took the piss out of Joe Coleman, he said they were disrespecting our lady. You can't win, he's doing everything "our lady" tells him to do, so you can't argue with him. He said plenty of times "our lady" was on his side.
    The guy should be locked up before our lady tells him to get a gun and kill someone, or go on a stabbing spree. He said he'd do anything "our lady" tells him to do.


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    #515
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    Havn't most, if not all, apparitions in history been ridiculed at the time of their sighting?
    I for one am not ashamed to say I believe it. And do you really think people are stupid enough to look directly at the sun?
    What apparition? All people have reported is the sun spinning and other such things. Could be a sign from Satan for all you know.

    And yes, I do believe people are stupid enough to stare directly at the sun.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #516
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I know I said I wouldn't post again but anyways....

    lol @ how easily pissed off some of you got from DaveSlats' post.
    Trolls always win somehow.


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    #517
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    What apparition? All people have reported is the sun spinning and other such things. Could be a sign from Satan for all you know.

    And yes, I do believe people are stupid enough to stare directly at the sun.

    Nope, people haven't always reported seeing figures. Crowds reported seeing the sun spinning at Fatima too.


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    #518
    furiousox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,960 ✭✭✭furiousox


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    Crowds reported seeing the sun spinning at Fatima too.

    .....and at woodstock! :D

    CPL 593H



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    #519
    Mental Mickey
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    Who's the support act?


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    #520
    GLaDOS
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    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    Nope, people haven't always reported seeing figures. Crowds reported seeing the sun spinning at Fatima too.
    So how do you know it's a sign from God? Because somebody said it is?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #521
    furiousox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,960 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Joe's Groupies :pac:

    CPL 593H



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    #522
    Johnny Giles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles



    ATTENTION

    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_liveline.xml

    Podcast of Joe on liveline.


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    #523
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    So how do you know it's a sign from God? Because somebody said it is?

    How do you know anything about God?

    As they say no proof would ever be enough for the non-believer.

    If some-one told you they saw it you wouldn't believe it.
    If a crowd of people told you they saw it you wouldn't believe it.
    If you saw it yourself you would say you were hallucinating or it's an optical illusion.

    Proof will never convert a non believer.
    I was an atheist for a long time and I wouldn't have believed any of it either. People used to tell me stories of getting personal apparitions and I'd think 'what a load of rubbish!' But I slowly started to change, when I felt certain things. It's when I started to feel things and connect with my spirituality that it all began to make sense to me.

    We're all different but we're all on a learning curve.


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    #524
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    How do you know anything about God?

    As they say no proof would ever be enough for the non-believer.

    If some-one told you they saw it you wouldn't believe it.
    If a crowd of people told you they saw it you wouldn't believe it.
    If you saw it yourself you would say you were hallucinating or it's an optical illusion.

    Proof will never convert a non believer.
    I was an atheist for a long time and I wouldn't have believed any of it either. People used to tell me stories of getting personal apparitions and I'd think 'what a load of rubbish!' But I slowly started to change, when I felt certain things. It's when I started to feel things and connect with my spirituality that it all began to make sense to me.

    We're all different but we're all on a learning curve.
    You miss my point. Its the sun, not Mary, Jesus, Joseph or the donkey. Nothing to indicate its a Christian symbol at all.

    Also
    Proof will never convert a non believer.
    I laughed at this.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #525
    irish_bob
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    Quint wrote: »
    Was funny when anyone took the piss out of Joe Coleman, he said they were disrespecting our lady. You can't win, he's doing everything "our lady" tells him to do, so you can't argue with him. He said plenty of times "our lady" was on his side.
    The guy should be locked up before our lady tells him to get a gun and kill someone, or go on a stabbing spree. He said he'd do anything "our lady" tells him to do.

    the guy belongs in a mental institution , unfortunatley due to our extremley liberal laws regarding the crazy , you have to litterally kill someone nowadays before they put you in the big house

    or maybe im wrong and he saw an opportunity for taking advantage of people in rescesionary times , whole industry built around this type of thing in america


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    #526
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    You miss my point. Its the sun, not Mary, Jesus, Joseph or the donkey. Nothing to indicate its a Christian symbol at all.

    Also

    I laughed at this.

    You don't think that's true? Right so, what proof would you require to believe? Jesus to appear to you? If you actually saw something would you believe?


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    #527
    GLaDOS
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    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    You don't think that's true? Right so, what proof would you require to believe? Jesus to appear to you? If you actually saw something would you believe?
    Yes, something connected with Christianity. If I saw something like the sun spinning and didn't think it was an optical illusion, there's no reason it couldn't be down to one of the thousands of other Gods man has thought up.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #528
    irish_bob
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    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    Why are people so harsh on religion. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you have to completely ridicule them.

    millions attend the HAGG each year in mecca and litterally trample each other to death in thier enthusiasm to throw rocks at a statue that represents the devil , are theese people derided


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    #529
    irish_bob
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    scarymoon1 wrote: »
    as my sister says - why have all these 'miracles' happened years ago - lourdes, fatima etc? No electricity led to darkness and ghost stories and active imaginations etc!!! And she said this knock thing is money for local businesses. I dont agree with her though!

    as a cynic once asked , how come no amputees have come back from lourdes and ran for the bus at dublin airport


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    #530
    Jimmy Bottlehead
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    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Yes, something connected with Christianity. If I saw something like the sun spinning and didn't think it was an optical illusion, there's no reason it couldn't be down to one of the thousands of other Gods man has thought up.

    True. If the suns spins, its GOT to be Mary. Not Jesus, God, Buddha, Thor, Ra or anyone else. The sun belongs to Mary, don'tcha know!!

    Must be her half of the settlement....


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    #531
    ScumLord
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    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    You don't think that's true? Right so, what proof would you require to believe? Jesus to appear to you?
    It would be a good start.


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    #532
    zuroph
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    what exactly does the sun spinning look like? isnt it circular so impossible to see spin?


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    #533
    GLaDOS
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    Off topic but the ads connected with this page include "Senior Singles Ireland" and "Nice Girls Waiting" :pac:

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #534
    Turtwig
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    zuroph wrote: »
    what exactly does the sun spinning look like? isnt it circular so impossible to see spin?

    Not if you're eyes are watery, or the atmosphere around you is swirling.
    Sun does not move:D


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    #535
    Turtwig
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    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    You don't think that's true? Right so, what proof would you require to believe? Jesus to appear to you? If you actually saw something would you believe?

    We've gone true this before with you in the thread about NDEs.
    It depends on how we see things.
    Do you believe the magician when he pulls the rabbit from the hat?


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    #536
    GLaDOS
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    Malty_T wrote: »
    Not if you're eyes are watery, or the atmosphere around you is swirling.
    Sun does not move:D
    I'm no astronomer but doesn't our solar system revolve around the centre of our galaxy?

    So technically it's always spinning ;) (well kinda :p)

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #537
    Turtwig
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    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    I'm no astronomer but doesn't our solar system revolve around the centre of our galaxy?

    So technically it's always spinning ;) (well kinda :p)

    Ahh fine it moves less than a cm* relative to the earth..:mad:
    (Human eye cannot resolve such a movement from such a distance though - so to our eyes it does not move :p)

    According to NewScientist it's moving 15 cm per year away from the earth


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    #538
    The Pontiac
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    The thing I don't get about these apparitions is why in the name of god can't she appear to the whole world at the same time, or even at the world cup final or something.. Why did Our Lady of Garabandal appear to the four girls with a message to the 'world'? If you've got a message for me I'd appreciate it if you told me directly, since you seemingly have the power to do so. Why cure one person at Lourdes? Why not cure everyone, and not pick and choose? Although, I doubt that anyone was ever cured there anyway..

    Now, I'd appreciate a reasonably logical explanation to the above, not something like 'The lord works in mysterious ways', never liked that one.


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    #539
    walshb
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    <Ollie> wrote: »
    The thing I don't get about these apparitions is why in the name of god can't she appear to the whole world at the same time, or even at the world cup final or something.. Why did Our Lady of Garabandal appear to the four girls with a message to the 'world'? If you've got a message for me I'd appreciate it if you told me directly, since you seemingly have the power to do so. Why cure one person at Lourdes? Why not cure everyone, and not pick and choose? Although, I doubt that anyone was ever cured there anyway..

    Now, I'd appreciate a reasonably logical explanation to the above, not something like 'The lord works in mysterious ways', never liked that one.

    I have also wondered that. Of all the places on Earth, why did she pick Knock?

    Apparently today, one guy was overheard on his mobile saying, "She'll be here at three."
    Bonkers mad!


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    #540
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »
    True. If the suns spins, its GOT to be Mary. Not Jesus, God, Buddha, Thor, Ra or anyone else. The sun belongs to Mary, don'tcha know!!

    Must be her half of the settlement....

    It's the only Sun she has left, we killed her last one,

    and now we are going to kill this one! or it's going to kill us - i'm not quite sure,

    but that's the message, now go forth and spread it!


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    #541
    eurojedward
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    Did this happen, did anybody clam to see anything?


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