Just how deluded is Bertie ?

Liam Byrne

Aside from the obvious tendency that anyone would have in showing themselves in "the best light possible", is it possible that Bertie isn't a "bollox" (as Bosco called him on Gift Grub) but is instead completely deluded ?

I mean, it seems that there's lots of bull**** in the book, based on reports and comments.

But how the hell can someone who claims that he "can't remember" hugely significant things write a memoir/autobiography ?

I'd say the editor had a nightmare! I mean, if Mahon is anything to go by, Bertie must have given him 5 completely contradictory versions of each paragraph!

Biggins

As said to some degree in another thread, Bertie has a convenient selective memory.
Anyone that takes his PR spin book as total reality, needs to be hit over the head with it and told to kop on!

Ronan|Raven

Well said, to see the smirking prick promoting his book, the little schoolboy face on him you would swear butter wouldnt melt in his mouth.

His book should be pulped and fed to him.

walshb

I watched him yesterday. He is so damn smug looking. And the hands in the pockets, is so the gouger. He always does it. He looks like a typical bowsy out and about. He said he would give an honset account. The chap doesn't understand the meaning of the word.

Biggins

What Bertie is seeming to forget (there's a surprise!) is that other TDs too will write their life stories to some degree.
It will be fun to spot all the irregularities between his spin on things and memory loss - and what others will remember and give more details on!

Should be fun!

Liam Byrne

Weird! Matt Cooper's promo was just on, and he mentioned Bertie's book and said "We ask if he has lost touch with reality"!!!!

I reckon I'll hold off buying it until the 2nd Edition, though; the version that has the added chapter about the Mahon Tribunal's findings.....

Biggins

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Weird! Matt Cooper's promo was just on, and he mentioned Bertie's book and said "We ask if he has lost touch with reality"!!!!

I reckon I'll hold off buying it until the 2nd Edition, though; the version that has the added chapter about the Mahon Tribunal's findings.....

I'd hold off and wait for the third version. The ghost-director/writer un-edited cut!

aidan24326

He's on The Late Late with Tubridy tonight promoting the book. The same Tubridy who is from a staunch Fianna Fail background, so expect it to be a right little lovefest. Bertie clearly has his own version of what happened in this country over the last decade, that his version often contradicts reality means he's either a) completely deluded b) a total liar or c) a bit of both. I reckon option c myself.

Liam Byrne

aidan24326 wrote: »

He's on The Late Late with Tubridy tonight promoting the book.

Saw that alright.

There's a small chance that Tubridy might learn from the interview with the current Taoiseach and actually be a little better this time around.

I hope Bertie pays for his own make-up, though!!!

Biggins

Liam Byrne wrote: »

...I hope Bertie pays for his own make-up, though!!!

...and Pollyfiller for the cracks in his memory!

aidan24326

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Saw that alright.

There's a small chance that Tubridy might learn from the interview with the current Taoiseach and actually be a little better this time around.

I hope Bertie pays for his own make-up, though!!!

I didn't see his interview with Cowen, but as I said in my other post Tubridy is a Fianna Fail man, so don't expect anything other than a bit of backslapping between himself and Bertie. There will be no awkward questions as such. Expect a couple of 'plants' in the audience aswell. That's how the Bertie operates, all spin.

deadhead13

There is a radio add running for The Sindo. Another "exclusive" interview with Bertie. The man myself is doing the voiceover. The last line....

"In two years time I will be 60, if ever I'm going to run for The Aras it will be then.

He is now existing in his own little parrallel universe - Planet Bertie. There is absolutely no chance of him getting anywhere near being the next President. His relationship with The Sunday Independent really is a wonder to behold.

Hermy

deadhead13 wrote: »

There is absolutely no chance of him getting anywhere near being the next President.

I really hope you're right!

deadhead13

Hermy wrote: »

I really hope you're right!

I can't see the Mahon findings being anything but damning of Ahern. To what degree, we will have to wait and see. In 2 years time FF will be in opposition and I suspect in pretty bad shape. The last thing they will want is someone on their ticket whose campaign will be dogged by Mahon. I think they will go for a safe option, much like when they went for McAleese over Reynolds. Which would be poetic justice in a way. And then of course there is the contempt the majority of people now hold him in.

994

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Saw that alright.

There's a small chance that Tubridy might learn from the interview with the current Taoiseach and actually be a little better this time around.

I hope Bertie pays for his own make-up, though!!!

Hope Tubs opens with "Do you lie too much?"

Rebelheart

Would people stop calling this b astard "Bertie" as if he's the family pet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick Bartholomew Ahern should be behind bars, long ago.

starbelgrade

I had a look at his book today - there's loads of blank pages in it for some reason.

Liam Byrne

Rebelheart wrote: »

Would people stop calling this b astard "Bertie" as if he's the family pet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But Rebelheart - family pets crap all over the place and then walk away, leaving you to clean up the mess....

I think it's a perfect parallel!

Rebelheart wrote: »

Patrick Bartholomew Ahern should be behind bars, long ago.

You might not be far wrong; but the fact is that the Tribunals - set up by Ahern - don't have the power to do this........foresight or just dumb luck ? You decide.

starbelgrade wrote: »

I had a look at his book today - there's loads of blank pages in it for some reason.

Pages....or cheques ?

starbelgrade

There's also a limited edition release of the book that comes bound in a brown envelope.

Anyways, back to the delusion - at his speech yesterday, he commented on the press & derided them for trying to "re-write" history. Surely that was the whole point of his book?!

Liam Byrne

starbelgrade wrote: »

There's also a limited edition release of the book that comes bound in a brown envelope.

Anyways, back to the delusion - at his speech yesterday, he commented on the press & derided them for trying to "re-write" history. Surely that was the whole point of his book?!

Sure he did that every visit to Mahon!

starbelgrade

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Sure he did that every visit to Mahon!

Bertie's nick-name for Mahon was "Pogue".

dragonsgates

starbelgrade wrote: »

There's also a limited edition release of the book that comes bound in a brown envelope.

Class

Biggins wrote: »

I'd hold off and wait for the third version. The ghost-director/writer un-edited cut!

The fourth version will be better.

a posthumous investigation into the rights and wrongs of his execution

nyarlothothep

his ego is so big that he remembers events completely different to how they happened. They all do, pity the fools.

mega man

I think the people of Ireland should prepare themselves for the scenario of Bertie Ahearn becoming president.
I mean its all well and good that people bad mouth him on boards.ie but its a possibilty the dumb Irish electorate will vote this monster into office.
What should we do if worst comes to worst?
We cannot stand by

juuge

He was on the RTE news this evening expressing his condolences re: Stephen Gately and all the time he had this ‘smirk’ on his face as though he doesn’t know how to be sincere – sick really! How the fcuk did he ever become Taoiseach?

Biggins

juuge wrote: »

How the fcuk did he ever become Taoiseach?

Long story short - I suspect he partly knew where the skeletons were within the FF party and knew how to use them to his advantage.
He had a great teacher in the name of Mr. Haughty.

dresden8

Bertie may not be deluded at all.

There are probably still a lot of people who would like to see him up the Aras.

This is not an endorsement, come the day of the revolution I'll pull the trigger on him myself.

Liam Byrne

dresden8 wrote: »

There are probably still a lot of people who would like to see him take it up the Aras.

FYP.

wylo

He was disgusting to watch on late late, as predicted Tubridy gave him a free ride.
He tries to play the lovable honest hard working cheeky rogue role, the truth is hes a cunning , lying, cheating prick.
The crowd were worse tbh.

Tubridy: "How did you feel at the tribunal every day"
Bertie(with a bold cheeky smile): "Oh it was all a bit boring to tell the truth"
Crowd laughs.


Sickening stuff.

Joey the lips

Bertie is not deluded so to speak. He is just a pure bollix that depends on the popularity of fianna failure and the media to push his book.

If there is one thing life has thought us is that its not that we dont know what he has done we will by human nature want to know more.

He is depending on the moraless nature of many that will buy this just as much as they buy mags on peter Andre and Katie Price. No doubt it will be serialised in the sun/News of the world in the next couple of weeks

Judgement Day

The little bollix is 4/1 with Paddy Power to be the next president! I guess I'll be taking my place on the grassy knoll with the rest of you - bags I have first shot.