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Green Party to stay in Government

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  • 10-10-2009 6:36pm
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    turgon
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    With about 15 minutes to the official results, the expectation is that Green party members will vote to stay in Government.

    Despite all the gains the party got from Fianna Fail it seems certain they wont be doing the thing the majority of the country want them to do - pull the plug on one of the most unpopular administrations in the history of the State.

    The legacy of the Green party, when they are wiped out at the next election (this probably being the last point at which they could salvage themselves) will be one of a party that supported NAMA (and all that implies) and the corruption and bad politics of Fianna Fail.

    They had the chance today to prove they had a moral conscience and that they were willing to be the 'watchdogs' of the coalition. They choose not to take this, and will undoubtedly suffer because of this.

    I cant but be disappointed.
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    Biggins
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    turgon wrote: »
    With about 15 minutes to the official results, the expectation is that Green party members will vote to stay in Government.

    Despite all the gains the party got from Fianna Fail it seems certain they wont be doing the thing the majority of the country want them to do - pull the plug on one of the most unpopular administrations in the history of the State.

    The legacy of the Green party, when they are wiped out at the next election (this probably being the last point at which they could salvage themselves) will be one of a party that supported NAMA (and all that implies) and the corruption and bad politics of Fianna Fail.

    They had the chance today to prove they had a moral conscience and that they were willing to be the 'watchdogs' of the coalition. They choose not to take this, and will undoubtedly suffer because of this.

    I cant but be disappointed - and soon be taxed more to pay off NAMA for the next 20+ years.

    FYP :D


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    not bakunin
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    turgon wrote: »
    With about 15 minutes to the official results, the expectation is that Green party members will vote to stay in Government.

    Despite all the gains the party got from Fianna Fail it seems certain they wont be doing the thing the majority of the country want them to do - pull the plug on one of the most unpopular administrations in the history of the State.

    The legacy of the Green party, when they are wiped out at the next election (this probably being the last point at which they could salvage themselves) will be one of a party that supported NAMA (and all that implies) and the corruption and bad politics of Fianna Fail.

    They had the chance today to prove they had a moral conscience and that they were willing to be the 'watchdogs' of the coalition. They choose not to take this, and will undoubtedly suffer because of this.

    I cant but be disappointed.


    Snap.
    What a wasted opportuinity.


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    brianthebard
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    Bit premature tugron, at least wait til the official results are out.


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    turgon
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    @brianthebard: I know, but all indications are going that way. RTE reporter said PfG would be passed "comfortably" and that the NAMA vote would split 50/50.


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    Rb
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    I would be shocked if they voted to leave, if nothing else is clear it's that they want to hold on to every little last bit of power they can.

    However, I can understand where they're coming from, the damage that has been done will take years to fix, if ever? Could the Greens do the same as the PD's should they lose power?

    I could be totally wrong and they could vote to leave, however I can't see it happening.


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    Daysha
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    Just been confirmed on RTE Radio 1. They're staying put.


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    murfie
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    They voted to stay in government 4:1 and voted down the rejection of NAMA 2:1. The cowards, hope the burn into oblivion the next election. PD's all over again.


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    Biggins
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    Daysha wrote: »
    Just been confirmed on RTE Radio 1. They're staying put.
    So JOD gets the boot to the backbenches and get still paid a few euro's less than what he's getting already + expenses still.

    ** sigh **


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    #10
    Macha
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Phew :)

    Great news.

    *Dons fire-proof armour*


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    Our man in Havana
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    Confirmed on RTÉ1.


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    lucky-colm
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    news flash

    greens to stay in govt
    greens to back nama


    brian dobson to have mor information in the news at 9;01

    hardly surprising


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    DubTony
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    No seats for that shower of cowardly bastards next time out so....


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    ninebeanrows
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    What a gutless bunch.

    Will never ever vote Green in my life after this.

    They are now as bad as the other bunch as far as i am concerned.

    A sad day for the country and a sad day for Politics, money and power is
    all that matter to these guys, they don't have an ounce of character or morality.

    Disgusted.


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    Our man in Havana
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    DubTony wrote: »
    No seats for that shower of cowardly bastards next time out so....
    Nope.

    I assume they have also agreed the budget also?


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    turgon
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1010/breaking2.htm

    84% in favour of PfG
    68% in favour of NAMA!!!!


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    Our man in Havana
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    turgon wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1010/breaking2.htm

    84% in favour of PfG
    68% in favour of NAMA!!!!
    Talk about saving your own skin.


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    #18
    peasant
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    Here's the new green party logo :D

    spineless.gif


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    the groutch
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    can the last to leave the country please turn out the lights?


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    dfbemt
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    turgon wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1010/breaking2.htm

    84% in favour of PfG
    68% in favour of NAMA!!!!

    Big figures for PFG. Surprised at this.

    Surprised at how close the NAMA vote is. I wonder what it would have been if the vote was to accept NAMA rather than reject it?


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    greendom
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    Probably the right move; the last thing the country needs right now is a general election. FF and it's coalition are pretty crap but could the FG side do any better ? I really don't think so. Labour maybe, but that's not going to happen, is it?


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    #22
    Our man in Havana
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    greendom wrote: »
    Probably the right move; the last thing the country needs right now is a general election. FF and it's coalition are pretty crap but could the FG side do any better ? I really don't think so. Labour maybe, but that's not going to happen, is it?
    It would if the gutless greens did the decent thing.

    The country needs change and it needs change now.


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    SeanW
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    Disgusted but not surprised. What a spineless pathetic bunch.

    I give the green candidate a v. high preference in my last ballot - never again!

    Time to get the Vaseline out, we're all in for a right shafting!


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    greendom
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    Bond-007 wrote: »
    It would if the gutless greens did the decent thing.

    The country needs change and it needs change now.

    Perhaps but FG is not going to provide it


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    DubTony
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    peasant wrote: »
    Here's the new green party logo :D

    spineless.gif

    This one's better.

    ken-doll-naked.jpg


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    #26
    turgon
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    greendom wrote: »
    Perhaps but FG is not going to provide it

    Why not? Theyre the only party with a remote chance of reducing government spending.


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    #27
    Our man in Havana
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    greendom wrote: »
    Perhaps but FG is not going to provide it
    FG and Labour together can bring real change.


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    #28
    [Deleted User]
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    How much are supersoakers these days? Think I'll need one at the ready next time FF and now the Greens grace my doorstep.


    At least they've been exposed as what they really are.
    Pity it's going to cost us what...about 20-50 billion with NAMA? Depending on how big a ****-up it is...


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    #29
    paconnors
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    the green party now will have to start writing their obituary and publish it after the next general elecetion


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    greendom
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    Bond-007 wrote: »
    FG and Labour together can bring real change.

    But I thought FG were supposed to be even more right wing than FF?

    (Genuine question btw)


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    Flamed Diving
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    Weathercheck wrote: »
    A sad day for the country and a sad day for Politics, money and power is all that matter to these guys, they don't have an ounce of character or morality.

    Erm, sounds like your regular politician, to me...


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