IPO chips

the_cat_is_back

I don't play much tournament poker. Normally I use the tournament average stack to keep an eye on where I'm at, but somebody recently told me it's better to use the # of BB's you have left. In relation to the IPO, with a starting stack of 10k, what # of BB's would you consider comfortable and at what stage should you be shipping it? Structure below:

13:00-13:40 Level 1; 25-50
13:40-14:20 Level 2; 50-100
14:20-15:00 Level 3; 75-150
15:00-15:40 Level 4; 100-200
15:40-16:00
16:00-16:40 Level 5; 150-300
16:40-17:20 Level 6; 150-300 25
17:20-18:00 Level 7; 200-400 25
18:00-18:40 Level 8; 300-600 50
18:40-19:00 Level 9; 400-800 50
19:00-19:40 Level 8; 300-600 75
19:40-20:00 Level 9; 400-800 50
20:00-20:20 Level 9; 400-800 75
20:20-21:00 Level 9; 500-1,000 75
21:00-21:40 Level 10; 600-1,200 100
21:40-22:20 Level 11; 800-1,500 100
22:20-22:30
22:30-23:10 Level 12; 1,000-2,000 150
23:10-23:50 Level 13; 1,200-2,400 150
23:50-00:30 Level 14; 1,500-3,000 200
00:30-01:10 Level 15; 2,000-4,000 200
01:10-01:20
01:20-02:00 Level 16; 2,500-5,000 300
02:00-02:40 Level 17; 3,000-6,000 300

Cheers

big_iain

Level 1 IMO, Stop the frenchies calling you with marginal hands and busting you out

dannydiamond

big_iain wrote: »

Level 1 IMO, Stop the frenchies calling you with marginal hands and busting you out

Fkin hilarious.

Ignore this nonsense cat. This is a pretty good place to start,as you gain more experience you'll figure out more stuff for yourself.A good crash course if that's what you're after though.

http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/general/short-stack/

Grafter

I played this last year as my first live tourney and am gutted that I can't make it this year, tho I suspect cans will get sniffed this time after my school disco trick meant I was the only drinker in the room apart from Marty who was allowed his pint in.

So, leaving racial prejudices aside, let the crazy any two calling station frenchies play the first few levels while you suss out the craic.

If you're so inclined, you should be able to wait 'til near dinnertime to play a hand, Thanks to the great structure.

I have no problem with watching the average and playing to keep up with or ahead of it, as long as you remember (the frenchies) that fast isn't always best when the structure is good.

To answer your original question, short is less than 10 big blinds, position is more important than you think, and if it gets round to you on or near the button with less than 10 and you have an ace or a pair "I'M ALL IN"

big_iain

dannydiamond wrote: »

Fkin hilarious.

Ignore this nonsense cat. This is a pretty good place to start,as you gain more experience you'll figure out more stuff for yourself.A good crash course if that's what you're after though.

http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/general/short-stack/

No sense of humour?

connie147

big_iain wrote: »

No sense of humour?

I'm sure he has ian, but in fairness, its a new poster coming on looking for advice for the IPO, which is probably his/hers biggest ever tourney. Dont thing your "advice" was very helpfull and i doubt the op would understand the funny point to what you said!

To the op, getting short means approx 10 bb's. Dont let yourself blind down underneath that. When you only have a short stack, you need to keep it together and use it as an all-in or fold. If you drop down to 5 or 6 bb's, you'll be so weak then that you wont be able to force the bigger stacks to fold when you push, so you would need a genuine hand t push with. With 10 or 12 bb's and in late position, your push should get through unless you walk into a monster (or a calling station) so your starting hand doesnt have to be so good.

GL in the tourney and hope you enjoy it.

Connie

the_cat_is_back

dannydiamond wrote: »

Fkin hilarious.

Ignore this nonsense cat. This is a pretty good place to start,as you gain more experience you'll figure out more stuff for yourself.A good crash course if that's what you're after though.

http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/general/short-stack/

Cheers for the link danny

Grafter wrote: »

I played this last year as my first live tourney and am gutted that I can't make it this year, tho I suspect cans will get sniffed this time after my school disco trick meant I was the only drinker in the room apart from Marty who was allowed his pint in.

So, leaving racial prejudices aside, let the crazy any two calling station frenchies play the first few levels while you suss out the craic.

If you're so inclined, you should be able to wait 'til near dinnertime to play a hand, Thanks to the great structure.

I have no problem with watching the average and playing to keep up with or ahead of it, as long as you remember (the frenchies) that fast isn't always best when the structure is good.

To answer your original question, short is less than 10 big blinds, position is more important than you think, and if it gets round to you on or near the button with less than 10 and you have an ace or a pair "I'M ALL IN"

Last year was also my first (and only) live tournament. Managed to make it to the final day by some miracle - although it was more a hobble than a sprint as I was very short-stacked and failed to make the money. I became very aware of the Frenchies early on and played super-tight. I guess my original question was to see how long I can sit back and let my stack go down before I need to loosen up. From the replies I'm probably going 20-30 BB's. Lower than that and it'll be shove city for me

connie147 wrote: »

I'm sure he has ian, but in fairness, its a new poster coming on looking for advice for the IPO, which is probably his/hers biggest ever tourney. Dont thing your "advice" was very helpfull and i doubt the op would understand the funny point to what you said!

To the op, getting short means approx 10 bb's. Dont let yourself blind down underneath that. When you only have a short stack, you need to keep it together and use it as an all-in or fold. If you drop down to 5 or 6 bb's, you'll be so weak then that you wont be able to force the bigger stacks to fold when you push, so you would need a genuine hand t push with. With 10 or 12 bb's and in late position, your push should get through unless you walk into a monster (or a calling station) so your starting hand doesnt have to be so good.

GL in the tourney and hope you enjoy it.

Connie

Cheers Connie. It is about as big a tournament I'll be playing anytime in the near future (unless I win it, WSOP 2010 here i come :cool:).

dannydiamond

Good luck,and i'll see you at the final table.:)

kakak1

dannydiamond wrote: »

Good luck,and i'll see you at the final table.:)

cash tables are in the same room then

dannydiamond

kakak1 wrote: »

cash tables are in the same room then

Yeah, you'll probably be able to see me from there Dave.:pac: