John Perry €190k+ expenses???

bonzos

It good to see that one of our own is up there at the top of the expenses table with the like of the John o dondghue's of this country.How thw hell can this guy justify claiming this amount of expenses in the past 2 years?At least John o Donoghus looked after his own in kerry but our fine bunch of TD's sat on their fingers while SGH has been destroyed!!meanwhile car and buse loads of people with cancer travel to an overworked hodpital in galway daily...:mad:

barr toco

i recently had a conversation with my father about these sort of people,
im from this mans home town,

it cant be justified, me and my dad came to a conclusion of what is going on here, i better not say what that is as i might get banned,
but our conlusions are correct, thers no other word for it,

just work out this sum on a weekly basis, at that point youll have to stop and think, and maybe even puke at the thoughts of it

EuskalHerria

What I love is that these elected representatives expect the average working man and women in getting by with their own pay, they get well paid themselves and expect to be reimbursed for everything they use? Why wouldn't they live it up, who is going to hold them accountable?

bonzos

expenses = €95,000 per year(€190000/2)tax free
wages=€100,000 per year approx
that works out at around €3750 per week!!!!!and he only pay tax on around half of that:eek:that last time i saw him on the paper he was campaining on behalf of some film crew from aisa who were in sligo making a film....meanwhile the bloodly hospital is closing wards on a daily basis!what a total waste of our money!every person who meets mr perry should ask him how he justifies charging the tax payer this sort of money for his "services"

barr toco

a man told my father about an experience he had a while back when he was asked to make a speech about a monument in a town that had been just erected, a great crowed gathered and a lot of well known faces to the area councellors local polatitions and the sort, he wasnt long into the speech when the crowed started to fizzle out very quickly, this man couldnt understand what he was doing wrong, truth is nothing, theese people just turned out to show ther faces and claim ther expences.

barr toco

bonzos wrote: »

expenses = €95,000 per year(€190000/2)tax free
wages=€100,000 per year approx
that works out at around €3750 per week!!!!!and he only pay tax on around half of that:eek:that last time i saw him on the paper he was campaining on behalf of some film crew from aisa who were in sligo making a film....meanwhile the bloodly hospital is closing wards on a daily basis!what a total waste of our money!every person who meets mr perry should ask him how he justifies charging the tax payer this sort of money for his "services"

thats exactly my intention next time im up at the home place,

GG66

barr toco wrote: »

i recently had a conversation with my father about these sort of people,
im from this mans home town,

it cant be justified, me and my dad came to a conclusion of what is going on here, i better not say what that is as i might get banned,
but our conlusions are correct, thers no other word for it,

just work out this sum on a weekly basis, at that point youll have to stop and think, and maybe even puke at the thoughts of it

I expect he travels a lot to and from Dublin

Subsistence rates are allowed for overnight stay ragardless of whether or not accommodation is paid for. This is the same for Civil Service & Businesses ...

Travel expenses are also allowable per mile -- if he drives ...

What's your opinion on how he clocked up so much?

Madge

GG66 wrote: »

I expect he travels a lot to and from Dublin

Subsistence rates are allowed for overnight stay ragardless of whether or not accommodation is paid for. This is the same for Civil Service & Businesses ...

Travel expenses are also allowable per mile -- if he drives ...

Still seems very excessive though doesn't it?

Culchie

bonzos wrote: »

It good to see that one of our own is up there at the top of the expenses table with the like of the John o dondghue's of this country.How thw hell can this guy justify claiming this amount of expenses in the past 2 years?At least John o Donoghus looked after his own in kerry but our fine bunch of TD's sat on their fingers while SGH has been destroyed!!meanwhile car and buse loads of people with cancer travel to an overworked hodpital in galway daily...:mad:

Does this include election expenses?, which I would imagine is a fair whack.

Not being too political about it, but I think he works harder than most of the other TD's about the place, as does his missus and son-in law Dara Mulvey, also a councillor. I think he has been pretty consistent on SGH, so I think you're barking up the wrong tree there. The Perry's are very active fundraisers in local community as well.


Having said that, it's a disgrace what's going on in the country, and it's very easy to solve IMO......the state buy a hotel in Dublin, fully staffed, and all TD's should stay there...no general public allowed....and we'd all save a fortune.

bonzos

How come Jimmy Devins(FF) only managed to to claim €39k in the same period?surely he travels the same distance to dublin as perry!in relation to dara mulvey,it is widely rumoured thay perry "helped" him with is recent campain,surely any money allocated to perry as expenses should not have been used to promote a family member in an election campain....was the cost of posters and leafets for mulvey claimed for with perrys expenses?This still does not explain how he can justify claiming €150k more than devins over the same period.

BennyLava

He has a nice hotel thought

bonzos

BennyLava wrote: »

He has a nice hotel thought

????you have lost me

westtip

thanks to the OP john perry is anothe pig in the trough I won't be voting for.

Slidey

BennyLava wrote: »

He has a nice hotel thought

He owns (or leases I think) The Coach House hotel

GG66

Madge wrote: »

Still seems very excessive though doesn't it?

Yes it is, VERY excessive...

I know TDs get expenses for sitting on committees so some of it's form that ....

I noticed this a few weeks ago when expenses were listed in the indo.. No big deal was made of it so I though it was a misprint.

Ring him and ask him..

As for being hard working - he'd need tobe at that price:eek:

bonzos

I would just hope that John would not be wasting my hard earned tax money,the would be my only concern!!

il gatto

I suspect the disparity between Perry and Devins might be due to the junior ministry held by Devins for much of that period (ironically that of health). I believe a ministry covers alot of the things expenses are usually claimed for. Another direct comparison would be Eamonn Scanlan whose expenses are in the same ballpark as perry's (168,000). I also recall Perry sat on some important committees such as the Govt. Accounts, so maybe that entails more travel and overnights. Tbh the whole lot sounds excessive (with the exception of Devins, but I'm sure there's a good reason behind his apparent frugelness).
No point laying the hospital issue at Perry's door though. He's in the opposition and has no sway with the government. All he can do is make statements, go to meetings and so on, and he's done that. The other two however, although belatedly withdrawing their support (after they'd voted to remove the cancer services in blatant disregard of their electorate's wishes) on that single issue, are still in FF and propping up the people responsible for the closure. They've been busy voting for NAMA amongst other things and at no point asked for Mary Harney's resignation.

bonzos

I agree with you that perry didnt not have as much say in the cancer services issue as devins,but i would love to know how the hell he manages to work uf an average of €1000 a week in expenses!!!on the hospial issue understand that devins was down in tipperary the day that the cancer march was on in sligo and also dodged the float in the paddys day parade..what a waste of space. Sligo's td's seem to be self serving tossers who are only there for the money

Wexler12

I blame the people of this country for electing big shots, if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas

Madge

Wexler12 wrote: »

I blame the people of this country for electing big shots, if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas

Not really, it's the system at fault. Forgive my cynicism, but anyone who's elected would do the same regardless of which party they're affiliated to. It's mainly the barrel that's rotten , not just the apples

Slidey

John Perry was never a big shot.

That may be the problem, the people who never had anything of any great substance who get into the Dail are overawed with the whole thing and get greedy

Jabby

Slidey wrote: »

John Perry was never a big shot.

That may be the problem, the people who never had anything of any great substance who get into the Dail are overawed with the whole thing and get greedy

'Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley'.... They've (FF and FG) both been in government for over 87 years. They have (with the help of the sad excuse of a 'Socialist' Labour party) one time or another, enjoyed all of the lucrative and expensive frills that come with office.

We mustn't lose sight of the fact that at the end of the day, they're both right wing parties who, in order to maintain their dominance over Irish politics and to isolate genuine socialists and forward thinking people, constantly encourage the myth that they're somehow so so different.

Tweedle dum and Tweedle dee.. no difference....exactly the same!

We should reallytake another look at these people from now on and do like they do in practically every other country in the world ...Look at them as either left or right, liberal or conservative ,policy and outlook.

The next election I suggest that we should all try to forget about the old out-dated civil war divisions that both FF and FG are so eager to maintain.

70% of us, the Irish electorate up to now (including myself once upon a time) have voted for these bozos on a regular basis over the years and then we wonder why they have become so complacent, so greedy, so rotten over the years.

We get the politicans we deserve... We deserve better!

rgds,

Jabby

bonzos

Slidey wrote: »

John Perry was never a big shot.

That may be the problem, the people who never had anything of any great substance who get into the Dail are overawed with the whole thing and get greedy

I think you will find that anyone who earns €3500+ a week is a bigshot with a big ego in this country

Madge

bonzos wrote: »

I think you will find that anyone who earns €3500+ a week is a bigshot with a big ego in this country

Thats a bit of a begruder attitude

Slidey

bonzos wrote: »

I think you will find that anyone who earns €3500+ a week is a bigshot with a big ego in this country

I think you will find that I said ''was'' never a big shot.

When he got elected to the Dáil he was running a grocery shop and AFAIR was driving a Nissan Micra at times

EuskalHerria

Slidey wrote: »

When he got elected to the Dáil he was running a grocery shop and AFAIR was driving a Nissan Micra at times

So what's your point? He came from a humble enough background and is now exploiting the people he once belonged too for his own financial gain?

The whole thing is a farce, politicians should be given a return ticket for bus eireann and a voucher to be used in any Dublin hotel. Anything after that they can take from their own wage packet which I'm sure is enough to "scrape" by.

Slidey

My point was that people who do come form a humble back ground and then are given the opportunity to get all that money will be a lot more likely to succumb to the lure of easy money.

Anyway, this is falling into politics territory so I'm out

Son Of A Vidic

I don't support any political party because they are all spineless, corrupt, conniving wasters. But the last politician Sligo had that got anything done for the town, was Ray McSharry.

bonzos

Madge wrote: »

Thats a bit of a begruder attitude

I dont begrude anyone making plenty of money as long as it reflects the service he provides! Do you think madge he is worth €3750 a week??At the of the day my tax is paying for him!If he worked for himself and earned that sort of money in a private business i would say fair play to him.....all i see of him in the media is lauching books for albert reyrolds at his hotel and campaining for some flim crew from asia,good money if you can yet it !!!!!!!!

donegalman1

Is it true that Perry has an advisor that goes almost everywhere with him. Thought only Ministers had this waste of money, but as far as I heard Perry has, might account for some of his staff costs

bonzos

It is in the sunday indo today that mr perry was the third highest "junketier" in the dail between jan 08 -09.It cost us €55k+ the send him and a few of his dail mates to australia and NZ for a conference on ethics!how will this benefit the people of sligo/leitrim? He has come a long way from the nissan micra!!!!!