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dyl10 wrote: »

Eamon Dunphy can want us to play football all he wants, frankly I'd rather be in the World Cup play-offs

+1

Still think he's a good watch though, only with a pinch of salt handy mind.

dyl10

8-10 wrote: »

Still think he's a good watch though, only with a pinch of salt handy mind.

Can't argue with that. The Irish panel is my favourite to watch.

orourkeda

8-10 wrote: »

+1

Still think he's a good watch though, only with a pinch of salt handy mind.

In terms of achievement, he wouldnt lace Giovanni Trapattoni's shoes.

You may not agree with Graeme Souness or John Giles but at least they have some semblance of credibility

dogpile

"there are players who are aesthetically pleasing, and there are winning players...some players may be beautiful to watch but it is not enough, you need to win, there is poetry and there are novels, novels are different to poetry"


Nice :rolleyes: except we don't actually win many games, for someone in the game as long as him you'd think by now he'd know the difference between not being beat and "winning"!!

Mr Alan

deserving of its own thread?

there's a few on the first page this would have been suited for

dogpile

Whatfukkinever

where should I have put it? Shelbourne v Paul McGrath selection or Chelsea team talk

BaZmO*

Mr Alan wrote: »

deserving of its own thread?

there's a few on the first page this would have been suited for

True.

As for the this

dogpile wrote: »

Nice :rolleyes: except we don't actually win many games, for someone in the game as long as him you'd think by now he'd know the difference between not being beat and "winning"!!

Why the rolleyes?

Trap is justified in his selection process and his decisions.

Bandit12

Did i miss something? ....like Ireland finishing last in the group or something.

Mikeyt086

dogpile wrote: »

Whatfukkinever

where should I have put it? Shelbourne v Paul McGrath selection or Chelsea team talk

Probably the big thread called "How do you rate Trapattoni". You could have voted in the poll, posted that comment etc. You would have loved it!

CHD

dogpile wrote: »

Whatfukkinever

where should I have put it? Shelbourne v Paul McGrath selection or Chelsea team talk

Nice to see the Chelsea thread has arrived

thebaz

I agreed in principle with Dunphy , our creative midfield play was non exist, the passing was poor overall, yes we scored 2 good goals, from set piece ... some people expect more than just results - watching Arsenal, Brazil etc . is what i like ... even though I support Ireland and Everton - its a tough life

Stacksey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philminshull/2009/10/hiddinks_russian_revolution_st.html

Whats he worried about? Russia would crush us

herbieflowers

Merge all these goddam threads ffs!

Bandit12

Footballer in respect for possible opponent shocker

briany

Why not just have a sticky for general discussion about the Ireland team?

stovelid

What's he going to say?

We'll crush those donkeys?

noodler

dyl10 wrote: »

Eamon Dunphy can want us to play football all he wants, frankly I'd rather be in the World Cup play-offs

See, heres the problem. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

People are talking down the squad a little too much, we could be top of the group now if a bit more had been shown in the Bulgarian games.

CHD

lolz

We are unbeaten, we can score goals, Croke park is a tough place to go. why would anyone want to draw us. Nobody should really want anyone except 2nd seeds wanting Greece.

Mint Sauce

considering that we have now reached the play offs, are there many of them being rested for tommorow night, and avoiding the risk of being suspended.

not suggesting that they are going out to get booked, but you never know, a rash challange, unsporting behaviour from the oposition, a bad ref and a booking causing a player to miss the next match

i my self would like the stongest possible team for the first play off to get that cushion for the second leg, and if that means resting or not selecting players, i'd accept that, granted with player availability, cant not select all of them, but can anyone see el trap making any sacrifices tomorrow

CHD

We need to use the Ireland superthread imo.

kmart6

Only Given going to be playing!

thread closed/!

dogpile

Bandit12 wrote: »

Did i miss something? ....like Ireland finishing last in the group or something.

True and a good point well made..


but he hasn't won alot which was his point....my point in pointing this out was also a good point well made

Rekop dog

Yeah the lower 4 seeds are hardly world beaters and we propably are the best of them. I think it's our style he is more wary of as the other teams have similar eastern European style as therselves and I'm sure they'd be confident of outclassing them rather than trying to combat our in your face style of football

It could also be a case that he seen us hold the world champions to a draw twice without seeing the games and is overestimating how good we are!

dogpile

super_furry wrote: »

Dunphy's a Skinny Rat - Hunt. Front page of tomorrow's Star.

Funny he should mention it, it's an image I've often got when I've seen him take the field

TheMilkyPirate

"It is a pity Greece is one of the seeded teams. Talking about our possible opponents I can say that I have enough of British football that is why I don’t want to meet Ireland."

That's what he said. I think he means he has enough of the style of football rather than he thinks we will beat them

Bubs101

CHD wrote: »

lolz

We are unbeaten, we can score goals, Croke park is a tough place to go. why would anyone want to draw us. Nobody should really want anyone except 2nd seeds wanting Greece.

Russia should want Ukraine so they don't get one of those pesky away ties across the whole of Europe

dogpile

premierstone wrote: »

He was very much anti- reid and called him lazy and over-weight on more than a few occasions and even did it after some of Andy's better performances .

I would go as far as him being Anti-Reid at the time but I do have recollections of him being very dismissive of the players ability at this level

SlickRic

ugh, pointless.

arshavin was always going to be respectful, always.

and anyway, as CHD said, nobody should be relishing anyone except 2nd seeds wanting Greece.

can't wait for the draw.

Quint

I have to say, I used to enjoy listening to dunphy, but to take him serious as a football analyst or journalist is a bad idea. Sure Fergie has "lost it" a few years ago when Chelsea won the league. He doesn't rate ronaldo as a player. He slated liverpool after the Madrid game in the Bernabeu cos they defended (even though they won!).
I don't enjoy listening to Dunphy anymore because Brady isn't on the panel. He was the only one that would disagree with dunphy and argue against him.

If dunphy was a boards member he'd be banned long ago for trolling.


Oh yeah, hunts performances are going to be destroyed by dunphy in future!

anonymous_joe

dyl10 wrote: »

Dunphy's full of it.
How anyone can complain about the performance that leads to a draw and nearly beating a team that has better players in every single position, is beyond me.

If we tried to play football against the Italians for 90 minutes we would have been slaughtered. The best we could do was make the game difficult for the Italians by getting men behind the ball and nick a goal(or two) if we could.

We didn't concede because we were hoofing the ball away, we conceeded because we got ahead of ourselves and gave away posession with too many players committed and were hit on the counter. O'Shea out of position, a bad goalkeeping decision and shocking defending by St Ledger made the finish easy for them.

Eamon Dunphy can want us to play football all he wants, frankly I'd rather be in the World Cup play-offs

Hang on.

I said before the game, I'd be happy with the draw to my mate. A bunch of us were watching the game, and afterwards the general consensus was that we weren't actually happy with the draw, we thought we could have won.

Italy do have better players, but they didn't play any better or any worse than us really. And the way we played in the first twenty minutes really got to them, there were signs we could do a lot of damage to a team.

Had we kept that up, I doubt Dunphy would have complained, but his point that we're a negative team isn't that wrong, is it?

TheMilkyPirate

Actually yeah, when is the draw?

Rekop dog

baraca wrote: »

Actually yeah, when is the draw?

Monday

I think we would give Russia a good game at Croke Park but I'd fear for us in the away leg for a number of reasons, the long trip, the possible weather, the Hiddink factor and the artificle pitch.

Nightmare draw imo.

denashpot

I hate Dunphy. His the biggest idiot on tv imo. Half the things he says are only to draw attention to himself.

shamblertine

I propose Terry Venables just to piss off Dunphy Or maybe even Big Ron, everyone deserves a second chance afterall.

The Sparrow

Trap's contract was just extended. He isn't going anywhere no matter whether we qualify or not.

event

IBTL

Neil3030

shamblertine wrote: »

I propose Terry Venables just to piss off Dunphy

I say install Venables now! Think how many more people that'd annoy! :pac:

Nalz

event wrote: »

IBTL

WTJIYMP

shamblertine

Neil3030 wrote: »

I say install Venables now! Think how many more people that'd annoy! :pac:

Tel would do a better job than trap. Tels got enthusiasm and age on his side (compared to Trap at least). Plus hes fluent in english

briany

shamblertine wrote: »

I propose Terry Venables, just cause it will piss off Dunphy Or even Big Ron, everyone deserves a second chance afterall.

Even though Trapattoni is staying on for another two years no matter what happens, I wouldn't say it's exactly prudent to be going looking for a new manager everytime we don't qualify for a major finals especially when Trapattoni is one of the best managers around it seems and what alternatives would really be better? I loved Stephen Hunt's outburst against Dunphy, finally some players speaking their mind no matter how inflammatory their opinions might be. Dunphy not agreeing with the players, the players hating Dunphy and Trapattoni not picking players seemingly because they don't fit his system; those were all hallmarks of the Jack era were they not? Maybe we're going back that way. Bring it on I say.

Frisbee

No-one, he's done a great job with a very limited set of players and a country of people willing to moan about anything.

noodler

Silly topic.

McCarthy got 3 shots at the playoffs, why would Trap only get one?

I do hope he would be on slightly less money if we don't qualify but thats probably a given.

shamblertine

The Sparrow wrote: »

Trap's contract was just extended. He isn't going anywhere no matter whether we qualify or not.

Yes but we can always buy him out or sack him for failing to achieve objectives set (ie to qualify)

mike65

The FAI couldn't afford another managment PR disaster

oh yeah In before lock

event

Trilla wrote: »

WTJIYMP

ye lost me

Mr Alan

Trap has been doing brilliant so far.

Any talk of replacing is ****ing idiotic in the extreme.

shamblertine

noodler wrote: »

Silly topic.

McCarthy got 3 shots at the playoffs, why would Trap only get one?

I do hope he would be on slightly less money if we don't qualify but thats probably a given.

If Ireland don't qualify for the WC what would be the point in keeping him. If somethings broke you fix it.

shamblertine

Mr Alan wrote: »

Trap has been doing brilliant so far.

Will you still be saying the same thing if we don't qualify though?

Mr Alan

shamblertine wrote: »

If Ireland don't qualify for the WC what would be the point in keeping him. If somethings broke you fix it.

if Ireland don't qualify for the world cup (we've qualified for 3 in our history), the problem is not with our manager who is one of the most respected & succesful managers of all time.