Imagine launch Midband Ripwave Replacement - WiMAX

Hammer of Thor

daffy_duc wrote: »

Geez, will you lot be patient?
You're like a bunch of kids in the back seat of a car. You don't know how to drive, or where you're going.
But you'll shout "Are we there yet" every 5 minutes.

The majority of people don't really care what WiMax is, who the equipment vendor is, or how the technology works. They're interested in the best deal for their money.
By the sounds of it, they really are trying to make the pricing "just right".

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, because I believe in the technology they're using.
Irish Broadband know how to build a network, and they already have tons of sites. Imagine bought Irish Broadband with this in mind.

I, personally, won't be moving straight to WiMax when they do start selling it. I'm quite happy with my Breeze connection.
But I am interested in seeing where they go with this, and so is the rest of the telecoms market.

Good for you! If you're happy you're happy! But leave the rest of us alone, we're sick and tired of ISP's in Ireland, the majority just strive to take the piss out of their customers, and this thread is evidence of just that. And btw the majority of these people you speak of who don't care about how broadband gets to them and who are only interested in value for money ARE GETTING ROBBED! You too probably, I'm not up on what a Breeze connection offers in terms of speeds and d/l limits etc, but I do know who offer the Breeze service and I'm quite sure they couldn't give a damn about how good their service is as long as you're money is in their account at the end of the month.

I'm guessing they're waiting to see how many people register so they can push the price up even higher, the more that want it the more they can charge!

Intel & Motorola = Fantastic!
Imagine = Oh dear......

MagicMarker

Hammer of Thor wrote: »

Good for you! If you're happy you're happy! But leave the rest of us alone, we're sick and tired of ISP's in Ireland, the majority just strive to take the piss out of their customers, and this thread is evidence of just that. And btw the majority of these people you speak of who don't care about how broadband gets to them and who are only interested in value for money ARE GETTING ROBBED! You too probably, I'm not up on what a Breeze connection offers in terms of speeds and d/l limits etc, but I do know who offer the Breeze service and I'm quite sure they couldn't give a damn about how good their service is as long as you're money is in their account at the end of the month.

I'm guessing they're waiting to see how many people register so they can push the price up even higher, the more that want it the more they can charge!

Intel & Motorola = Fantastic!
Imagine = Oh dear......

What are you talking about?

You tell him he's probably being ripped off with his breeze service and then say you have no idea what a breeze service offers? Seriously?

People are only registering their INTEREST, if you find something too expensive and still get it then you're an idiot.

daffy_duc

Hammer of Thor wrote: »

Good for you! If you're happy you're happy! But leave the rest of us alone, we're sick and tired of ISP's in Ireland, the majority just strive to take the piss out of their customers, and this thread is evidence of just that. And btw the majority of these people you speak of who don't care about how broadband gets to them and who are only interested in value for money ARE GETTING ROBBED! You too probably, I'm not up on what a Breeze connection offers in terms of speeds and d/l limits etc, but I do know who offer the Breeze service and I'm quite sure they couldn't give a damn about how good their service is as long as you're money is in their account at the end of the month.

I'm guessing they're waiting to see how many people register so they can push the price up even higher, the more that want it the more they can charge!

Intel & Motorola = Fantastic!
Imagine = Oh dear......

Imagine/Irish Broadband offer Breeze. I have no complaints. Its the perfect solution for me, because its a symmetrical service. No-one else offers a 6mbit down/6mbit up service, with no usage limit for €100 a month. Sure its expensive for your average joe, but any other ISP that offers that product will charge a whole lot more. (Before you whine about €100 being expensive, I would be paying that for a 1mbit DSL service with a 5GB cap in South Africa)
Ask anyone else on this forum with Breeze, how their service has been for the last few years, and they'll tell you that their customer support has been incredible.

So either you just don't like being compared to a kid in a car, or you've got something personal against Imagine.
I still think you should just sit back and wait, before jumping to conclusions.

copacetic

daffy_duc wrote: »

So either you just don't like being compared to a kid in a car, or you've got something personal against Imagine.
I still think you should just sit back and wait, before jumping to conclusions.

Sit back and wait on what and until when exactly? Imagine have already missed two promised dates for delivery of the details of their service. It's not like people are demanding details before they should be ready, they simply expect them when the company said they would deliver them.

At best it's shoddy amateur work and it wouldn't be unfair to expect no better from their service after such a farce of a launch. if they can't be organised enough to tell people what the service will be, where it will be available and how much it will cost, then they don't know what they are doing. I'm surprised the press hasn't picked up on it after the fanfare of the 'launch' that they reported.

Trying to say people have something personal against imagine because they expect them to deliver what they promised make me think you have some personal involvement and are shilling on their behalf. It doesn't make sense otherwise. From looking at your post history, you appear to spend all your time pushing the same services.

thebman

copacetic wrote: »

Sit back and wait on what and until when exactly? Imagine have already missed two promised dates for delivery of the details of their service. It's not like people are demanding details before they should be ready, they simply expect them when the company said they would deliver them.

At best it's shoddy amateur work and it wouldn't be unfair to expect no better from their service after such a farce of a launch. if they can't be organised enough to tell people what the service will be, where it will be available and how much it will cost, then they don't know what they are doing. I'm surprised the press hasn't picked up on it after the fanfare of the 'launch' that they reported.

Trying to say people have something personal against imagine because they expect them to deliver what they promised make me think you have some personal involvement and are shilling on their behalf. It doesn't make sense otherwise. From looking at your post history, you appear to spend all your time pushing the same services.

I imagine the press are waiting until they announce the prices to cover it and it will get a mention that it took ages to get pricing out there.

Not a great start but people wouldn't be waiting around to hear word if they were happy with their current providers or if decent broadband existed in the country.

daffy_duc

copacetic wrote: »

Sit back and wait on what and until when exactly? Imagine have already missed two promised dates for delivery of the details of their service. It's not like people are demanding details before they should be ready, they simply expect them when the company said they would deliver them.

At best it's shoddy amateur work and it wouldn't be unfair to expect no better from their service after such a farce of a launch. if they can't be organised enough to tell people what the service will be, where it will be available and how much it will cost, then they don't know what they are doing. I'm surprised the press hasn't picked up on it after the fanfare of the 'launch' that they reported.

Trying to say people have something personal against imagine because they expect them to deliver what they promised make me think you have some personal involvement and are shilling on their behalf. It doesn't make sense otherwise. From looking at your post history, you appear to spend all your time pushing the same services.

I'll admit that the delaying and missing of dates does cause some concern.

I never have any problems with my IBB Breeze connection. I moved to DSL with IBB for a while, and then moved back to IBB Breeze when I moved house.
I'm just loyal...

swoofer

I think what we are saying it quite obivious.

It was announced with, no pricing, no clear dates, no launch areas, a useless website, lots of publicity for what ....... an 8mbs product if it ever works. Its the usual for Ireland all talk and bluster.

I'll report back in 12 months and I bet we wont have got any further .....

Its a big no no when all the media gives this roll out such top coverage even the last word and that is a worry. We will never get anything good unless it is examined objectively and reported on as such. I wonder will Matt call them back in and take them to task, I doubt it.. because..... yes the adverts.

gb--

aersat

"IMAGINE" if the hype was true.:eek:

thebman

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I think what we are saying it quite obivious.

It was announced with, no pricing, no clear dates, no launch areas, a useless website, lots of publicity for what ....... an 8mbs product if it ever works. Its the usual for Ireland all talk and bluster.

I'll report back in 12 months and I bet we wont have got any further .....

Its a big no no when all the media gives this roll out such top coverage even the last word and that is a worry. We will never get anything good unless it is examined objectively and reported on as such. I wonder will Matt call them back in and take them to task, I doubt it.. because..... yes the adverts.

gb--

Same thing on last word with 3. Massive coverage of 3's problems until they sponsored the show then all was ignored/forgotten.

It is a problem with private media although RTE just suck government **** so we are fooked no matter what the media.

Sponge Bob

Sponge Bob wrote: »

. This facebook/twitter crap is all rather counterproductive

Since I posted that on the 27th their inanely twittering morkeshing people have thankfully STFU . What a ****ing tool of that thing that twitter is

thebman

lol all the new social networking sites seem to be setup more for shills than the traditional forum which actually you know works for intended purpose.

Goodshape

thebman wrote: »

lol all the new social networking sites seem to be setup more for shills than the traditional forum which actually you know works for intended purpose.

I'm beginning to wonder tbh.

At least with Twitter I can choose my own level of interaction with people, companies and service providers and often get a real response to a real query. Unlike here where there's no getting away from these "anonymous" keyboard warriors and their vile spewing hatred of a service which hasn't even launched yet. God help anyone on here who ever has a bit of a delay getting a brand new product out the door.

And the Imagine twitter account is, by definition, not a shill. It's clearly tied to Imagine, there's no hidden agenda or pretense.

copacetic

Goodshape wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder tbh.

At least with Twitter I can choose my own level of interaction with people, companies and service providers and often get a real response to a real query. Unlike here where there's no getting away from these "anonymous" keyboard warriors and their vile spewing hatred of a service which hasn't even launched yet. God help anyone on here who ever has a bit of a delay getting a brand new product out the door.

And the Imagine twitter account is, by definition, not a shill. It's clearly tied to Imagine, there's no hidden agenda or pretense.

Jeez, get a grip of yourself. What does "anonymous" in inverted commas mean anyway?

I used to launch products all the time in a previous job, what we did was wait until they were ready and then launch them. Sounds easy, eh?
Any internal delays before then obviously aren't embarrassing and don't make you look like unprofessional and like you don't know what you are doing. It ain't rocket science.

Marlow

ImagineThat! wrote: »

http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/wimax-demo-leo-lundy-imagine-cto/140997177

20 mbit down/ 2 mbit up, fair enough. But that's before contention kicks in. The demo did not involve a bunch of customers on the sector. If that's all there is available on the sector, then I can't see, how it is going to be revolutionary.

10 MHz wide channels using standard fixed wireless allow easily for 12 mbit/s if properly set up and no contention, however most providers use 20 MHz channels, so they have up to around 25 mbit/s symmetric available.

3G is up at 14.4 mbit/2 mbit in some deployments. Again.. that's before contention is applied.

/M

Goodshape

copacetic wrote: »

Jeez, get a grip of yourself.

Sorry, hangover. Need coffee or something.

What does "anonymous" in inverted commas mean anyway?

It means not actually anonymous.

I used to launch products all the time in a previous job, what we did was wait until they were ready and then launch them. Sounds easy, eh?
Any internal delays before then obviously aren't embarrassing and don't make you look like unprofessional and like you don't know what you are doing. It ain't rocket science.

No denying they messed up on the launch.

I just think with the state of broadband in this country, and the potential advantages of having a good WiMAX network, my main reaction to this is "oh cool, hope it's good!", but for some reason it took some posters on here no time at all to start bashing the whole thing. I'd love to see some actual information and discussion on this thread without having to wade through all the childish ****e.

The suggestion that this was in some way better than "all the new social networking sites" just tipped me over a bit.

Marlow

Goodshape wrote: »

I just think with the state of broadband in this country, and the potential advantages of having a good WiMAX network, my main reaction to this is "oh cool, hope it's good!", but for some reason it took some posters on here no time at all to start bashing the whole thing.

Sorry. But if you look at their roll-out plans (the ones they've published), how do you think it'll improve the state of the broadband in this country. The first target is Dublin. As if broadband in Dublin was a problem.

/M

Goodshape

Marlow wrote: »

Sorry. But if you look at their roll-out plans (the ones they've published), how do you think it'll improve the state of the broadband in this country.

No line rental, mobile, 8mb to start with. Internet that's just *there* wherever you are. If it works, that'd be fantastic.

The first target is Dublin. As if broadband in Dublin was a problem.

Of course the first target is going to be Dublin. They're a business, not a charity. Regardless, friend of mine just moved into a flat in Dublin city centre which doesn't have a cable for NTL. So it's cough up for phone line activation and monthly line rental before you even start looking at broadband packages or, at the moment, some of the 3G offerings.

I think he went for O2 in the end. After a quick look on the O2 website I can't actually see what speed those connections are supposed to be (heh, Imagine that :P) but he said he's getting about 1.5 - 2mb on it and is happy enough.

If Imagine can offer something good to compete with that then that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

copacetic

Goodshape wrote: »

I just think with the state of broadband in this country, and the potential advantages of having a good WiMAX network, my main reaction to this is "oh cool, hope it's good!", but for some reason it took some posters on here no time at all to start bashing the whole thing. I'd love to see some actual information and discussion on this thread without having to wade through all the childish ****e.

The suggestion that this was in some way better than "all the new social networking sites" just tipped me over a bit.

Well I'd agree with that alright, I wouldn't even be subbed to this thread if not for the 2 or 3 year build up to WiMax and the involvement of such big name tech companies. I heard great things from people involved in the intel trials over past couple of years.

Thats their problem though, they announced a product that everyone wants, get everyone interested, then let them down. Thats not unlike the entire history of broadband provision in Ireland! Everyone is cynical because these companies have let us down time and time again.

Goodshape wrote: »

Regardless, friend of mine just moved into a flat in Dublin city centre which doesn't have a cable for NTL. So it's cough up for phone line activation and monthly line rental before you even start looking at broadband packages or, at the moment, some of the 3G offerings..

Thats the same for a lot of people in Dublin, no option except for phone line based or mobile broadband. I'm in the same boat.

Marlow

Goodshape wrote: »

Of course the first target is going to be Dublin. They're a business, not a charity.

They are a business, that is covering the exact same areas as most other businesses. Doesn't do a lot for most people in Ireland. It's certainly not covering the areas, that really are screaming for broadband.

You don't have to be a charity to cover outside the cities.

/M

MagicMarker

Marlow wrote: »

They are a business, that is covering the exact same areas as most other businesses. Doesn't do a lot for most people in Ireland. It's certainly not covering the areas, that really are screaming for broadband.

You don't have to be a charity to cover outside the cities.

/M

Would you prefer they wait until they have 100% coverage before launching the product?

Marlow

MagicMarker wrote: »

Would you prefer they wait until they have 100% coverage before launching the product?

I didn't say that. I'm just saying, that the coverage areas they have chosen, they already are covering with dsl, ripwave and breeze products. Those areas are also covered by 3G.

And to take you up on your comment: They are advertising EVERYWHERE. Coming from Claregalway towards Galway, big add at the road. Coming from Kilcolgan towards Galway, big add at the road. In Athlone city center: big add.

But those areas have not even announced for coverage on the website yet. You must admit, that the way they launch it, are pretty much way off. All they do is create confusion with people that don't check the coverage map and don't know better.

/M

Sponge Bob

MagicMarker wrote: »

Would you prefer they wait until they have 100% coverage before launching the product?

No but their statement on launch date said that they will have "90% coverage" by 2012 . That is quite simply a TOTAL LIE , well beyond the oleaginous tripe one reasonably expects of marketing departments

I can state with certainty that Imagine will not supply a 3.5ghz/3.6ghz wimax product in more than 25% of the state by 2012 . That will be the more densely populated 25% of the state where everybody else tries to provide a reasonable quality wireless service...eg Digiweb Metro .

The other 75% of the state will not benefit in any way , same as ever.

MagicMarker

Marlow wrote: »

I didn't say that. I'm just saying, that the coverage areas they have chosen, they already are covering with dsl, ripwave and breeze products. Those areas are also covered by 3G.

And to take you up on your comment: They are advertising EVERYWHERE. Coming from Claregalway towards Galway, big add at the road. Coming from Kilcolgan towards Galway, big add at the road. In Athlone city center: big add.

But those areas have not even announced for coverage on the website yet. You must admit, that the way they launch it, are pretty much way off. All they do is create confusion with people that don't check the coverage map and don't know better.

/M

They say if you want coverage, to register your details, if enough people want it in your area they'll get there as soon as they can.

Which makes more business sense, setting up coverage in Ballygobackwards so a few hundred people can get it, or setting up in Dublin so a million can get it?

I challenge you to find any company anywhere that doesn't first target more densely population areas with a new product.

MagicMarker

Sponge Bob wrote: »

No but their statement on launch date said that they will have "90% coverage" by 2012 . That is quite simply a TOTAL LIE , well beyond the oleaginous tripe one reasonably expects of marketing departments

I can state with certainty that Imagine will not supply a 3.5ghz/3.6ghz wimax product in more than 25% of the state by 2012 . That will be the more densely populated 25% of the state where everybody else tries to provide a reasonable quality wireless service...eg Digiweb Metro .

The other 75% of the state will not benefit in any way , same as ever.

Why don't you express your outrage to your local TD? I honestly don't care.

Marlow

MagicMarker wrote: »

They say if you want coverage, to register your details, if enough people want it in your area they'll get there as soon as they can.

Which makes more business sense, setting up coverage in Ballygobackwards so a few hundred people can get it, or setting up in Dublin so a million can get it?

I challenge you to find any company anywhere that doesn't first target more densely population areas with a new product.

Us ? !!!

We don't really do much in Galway city. Yet we provide 2000 customers on the irish westcoast.

Also, it has advantages to trial a new product in a rural area, because you can figure out to scale it correctly before you kick the crap out of it.

/M

Sponge Bob

MagicMarker wrote: »

They say if you want coverage, to register your details, if enough people want it in your area they'll get there as soon as they can.

They said they would cover 90% by 2012 . An honest company would publish this 90% coverage map seeing as they claim to havea plan and invite interest from the other 10% .

MagicMarker

Sponge Bob wrote: »

They said they would cover 90% by 2012 . An honest company would publish this 90% coverage map seeing as they claim to havea plan and invite interest from the other 10% .

Please refer to my last post.

Sponge Bob

Your last post about local TDs :eek: was like something a surly marketing droid would come up with after the boss banned them from twittering becuase sumbdy sed sumtin on d'internit

Do you have any sort of point or insight to share, ideally about the technology not the marketing campaign please .

MagicMarker

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Your last post about local TDs :eek: was like something a surly marketing droid would come up with after the boss banned them from twittering becuase sumbdy sed sumtin on d'internit

Do you have any sort of point or insight to share, ideally about the technology not the marketing campaign please .

Why would I talk about the technology? I don't know anything about the technology, nor do I care about the technology.

warlikedave

still the technologicla claims of the service are at heart of the marketing campaign so it is relevant. I run a business myself and marketing is only propoganda if you cant back it up with specs whether its website design done to certain standards using certain technology/software or if its the infrastructure behind the product being marketed - all information is vital - people should not believe all that an ad has to say unless it has the relevent detail and studies behind it to allow us consumers to make a informed decision. There is the reason why the technology aspect of information provided is vital....so please dont give me that crap that technology is irrelevant here - YOU are in a TECH FORUM AFTER ALL :P

warlikedave

MagicMarker wrote: »

Would you prefer they wait until they have 100% coverage before launching the product?

Yes I would actually as a matter of interest - at least there would be coverage for all which no one else provides. That would be the best marketing tool in this country i can tell you that :P

onedmc

MagicMarker wrote: »

Would you prefer they wait until they have 100% coverage before launching the product?

You have missed the point they have NO coverage. You cant get the product anywhere.

Orignally they claimed that it was available "live" in my area but its not. The should at least have some cells live and available.

MagicMarker

There are plenty of people who already have the product.

Sponge Bob

MagicMarker wrote: »

There are plenty of people who already have the product.

How do you know ?? Oh let me guess

MagicMarker

Because someone posted on here before saying that they were calling out to replace their ripwave unit.

Sponge Bob

MagicMarker wrote: »

Because someone posted on here before saying that they were calling out to replace their ripwave unit.

'someone on boards' = "loads of people" then , is it ??

You have a bright future in marketing and pr you do

MagicMarker

Someone on boards says they get a call from Imagine to upgrade their ripwave to wimax.

I think it's safe to assume they're not the only one.

Marlow

MagicMarker wrote: »

Someone on boards says they get a call from Imagine to upgrade their ripwave to wimax.

I think it's safe to assume they're not the only one.

That's hear say at best. And have you confirmation that anybody yet has the unit ?

Just because people said, they've been contacted about getting the unit replaced doesn't mean it has happened yet.

So explain, why there still are no speeds and prices on the website ? Cat in the sack for people that have the product ?

/M

MagicMarker

Well the guy who posted said they called out to his house. So once again, it's safe to assume they have called out to other people to upgrade their service.

No, I can't confirm anything, how could I? But that doesn't mean it's not true.

Sponge Bob

MagicMarker wrote: »

No, I can't confirm anything, how could I? But that doesn't mean it's not true.

Imagine really are scraping the proverbial barrel with the quality of their shilling in this thread ( one or two noble exceptions noted )

MagicMarker

You keep calling anyone who isn't a member of the circle jerk of bitching, a shill. I'd call that a troll.

I honestly couldn't give a toss if you think I'm a shill. I'm just giving my opinion.

If you must know I'm a satisfied UPC customer:D

Sponge Bob

Don't drag UPC into this please !

Cabaal

MagicMarker, Spongebob,
If you have a problem with a user then report the user.

I don't want this thread turning into a a bitching session.

imho Image need to get their act together, there are massive issues with what they've done to date
- Advertising in areas that they won't be in
- Missing go-live dates (this makes them look clueless)

Sponge Bob

I suspect that to some extent they deliberately went off at half cock because poster campaign 'brand' advertising is much cheaper in October than it will be from mid november onwards what with christmas almost upon us and the january sales.

They may have bought and booked this in august ....thinking they would be live ....and had equipment sourcing problems in the interim .

ImagineThat!

They may have bought and booked this in august ....thinking they would be live ....and had equipment sourcing problems in the interim .[/quote]

Ya know ye guys really make me laugh with your petty arguments about the claims and delay in pricing etc, Imagine are no 2 in the Irish market with 1,000s and 1,000s of Business and Residential telephone and bb customers across all our brands,Access,Imagine,Gaelic Telecom,and Irish Broadband, do ye really think we are not going to back up our claims?

With any new product launch in any area, there is going to be teething problems,etc, this is not the case here it`s just a delay in announcing pricing and product information, what you seem to forget here is that there is a €100 million investment and 200 new jobs involved in the rollout of Wimax in Ireland supported by al the major players, if ye took the time to check out the rollout of Wimax in the States,Rest of Europe Asia,Africa etc maybe then you will see that waiting another few days would not be an issue, ( And before you reply about vapour ware etc, I am not here in any offical capacity, just an employee, who`s sick to the teeth of slaggers who really dont know what they are talking about !) there is a fleet of vehicles including a demonstration unit already out there everyday swapping out ripwave devices for Wimax devices ungoing for weeks now in the coverage areas already live with 15 new areas to go live every month from now on, and note I said " AREAS" not base stations, so in finishing get off your high horse and wait just another few days,and then make your comments on actual fact not fiction !!

Marlow

ImagineThat! wrote: »

this is not the case here it`s just a delay in announcing pricing and product information

So what is the big secret there ? Even if there would be a delay in sourcing kit, teething problems etc., there is no sense in holding that sort of information back, is there ?

Unless you're afraid that all the other providers suddenly dump their prices below those while you can't deliver.

/M

copacetic

ImagineThat! wrote: »

so in finishing get off your high horse and wait just another few days,and then make your comments on actual fact not fiction !!

how many days is a few? that few days promise has already been made twice by imagine and the 'facts' didn't come.

ImagineThat!

Sponge Bob wrote: »

No but their statement on launch date said that they will have "90% coverage" by 2012 . That is quite simply a TOTAL LIE , well beyond the oleaginous tripe one reasonably expects of marketing departments

I can state with certainty that Imagine will not supply a 3.5ghz/3.6ghz wimax product in more than 25% of the state by 2012)

So you think it`s a total lie ! and can state with certainy!! can you please explain to those of us who don`t have a crystal ball how you can back up your wild claims?

Marlow

ImagineThat! wrote: »

can you please explain to those of us who don`t have a crystal ball how you can back up your wild claims?

I would have to back up SpongeBob on this, not that I'm so certain about the figures, but 90% in 3.5-3.6 GHz will not be archievable, because the licenses won't be available for that. You'd need to get Eircom's national 3.5 GHz license for that.

There are vast areas, where those licenses have been taken by other providers. In some areas it will also mean, that you have to get rid of other IBB products first and that's not an easy process.

If I recall correctly, there were 5000 wireless customers in IBB at the time when Imagine purchased them. I'd say half of them maybe in 3.5 GHz spectrum, if not more. Those will have to be moved before you can free those licenses up.

But if Imagine archieves 90% coverage, that would be very good. The problem is right now, that Imagine is blasting advertising out for something that they don't tell their customers (and potential customers) about, what it's going to be cost and what they will be getting for the money.

As for your comment on people not having a clue. I'd be very careful with statements like that. Quite a few people in this thread have a very thorough knowledge of the industry and technology, what it's capable of and what regulations and limitations there are.

/M

Sponge Bob

copacetic wrote: »

how many days is a few? that few days promise has already been made twice by imagine and the 'facts' didn't come.

http://www.imagine.ie/wimax-splash/view-coverage-locations.html

The coverage map certainly looks 'healthier' than it did in October what with 100% coverage showing in Leixlip Village and also in Celbridge Village as well as all of SE Dublin west of Killiney Hill and south of Ringsend together with all of NE Dublin north of the Royal canal between the M1 and the sea right up to Sutton .

That lot should provide a very interesting test once you can actually get the service off them . For a nomadic technology with no fixed aerials it is rather a brave map , shall we say

The website is nicer than it was when we all discussed how confused and crap it was . There is a slight drawback though , clickety click below .

http://www.imagine.ie/

Where the **** has the most widely available Imagine product gone , that's ADSL ???

And where is the breeze product family , or indeed ripwave down the schticks ???