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Oberstdorf Germany
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Just back from Oberstdorf today.
Here is the breakdown:
1) Stayed in the Steffanie Blattner Apartments which were nice cheap and did the job hands down. No problems and they spoke perfect English and right beside the Neue Skischule, Nebelhorn and 5mins from supermarket. Would definitely recommend and will use again.
2) The locals and nice and though they don't all speak english, they all made an effort with us. All the people we met were nice and friendly and very helpful. If they couldn't help they asked us to stay and got somebody who could. Do make it clear that you are Irish as there is an English army barracks the other side of the village and they are not fond of them and assume anyone who speaks english is from there. We were told by different groups that there are not many other english speaking people besides the army personnel so its fair enough.
3) Yes the weather wasn't great but from talking to a number of the locals they were as surprised as us with it. They can't control the weather, but they got 5cm of snow on friday night and it is expected to snowing all next week for anyone going.
4) Renting wasn't cheap, about €130 but compared to the gear I got in Livigno before it was a way better standard. We got lessons and rented from Neue Skischule. Again, very helpful and nice whether in group or private lessons (there were a few of us, some private, some classes) and all the instructors were not out to rip us off. Told us after 3 days not to spend anymore on lessons. Ask for David or Jay, if your snowboarding as they are the most experienced instructors with the school and their english is very good. If your skiing go with Sebastien. All said to buy the gear next time as it would work on cheaper after 3/4 trips as renting is expensive.
5) Nightlife. The locals are mainly older but if your looking to party go to Sonthofen which is only 10km away and around €10/15 in a taxi. There are parties on top of the ski resorts at night. In Oberstdaorf, there is the Irish bar near the church and Rock Muhle beside Neue Skischule, ask for Yo Yo in Rock Muhle, he is the owner (German) and worked in Kerry as a chippy before so his english is perfect. If you want to get really pissed just go to Sonthofen.
The restaurants tend to shut by 10pm but the 2 main pubs mentioned above stay open pretty late and are good fun. We cooked ourselves and went down to the supermarket and bought local food, which is REALLY CHEAP and nice. Our first day we just got pizzas to keep us going and got 3 for €3. If you want cheap snowboard lessons go into the irish bar, ask for Harry (English Guy) and ask him to give you Paul Davis' number, or PM me and will send on the details if I can find the card.
Oberstdorf is what you make of it, we were out for skiing/snowboarding and a not too hectic nightlife and got it. The views from the Nebelhorn (means Foggy Mountain) are stunning and the pistes were good fun, particularly snowboarding through the clouds
. There are 4 mountains altogether, Sollereck is the beginner one but after 2 lessons we were brought to Nebelhorn.
One thing where Oberstdorf outdoes Livingo is that the instructors will bring you to the Nebelhorn and come down the Black and Red slopes the first time you do it making sure your technique is right (was offered to be brought down again to make sure free of charge) and brought off-piste too, unlike in Livigno where they tend to stay on the nursery slopes and you can do so much learning on a blue slope. That said I really enjoyed Livigno but in my opinion isn't worth the commute.0 -
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We arrived back on the 19th after a week, it was by far the most difficult weeks skiing ever for me.
I found the conditions really hard to cope with, it was really warm +25c !!! and there had been no snow for a while beforehand. Some runs where icy and I found it hard to get grip and lower down was really sugary. the moguls where a killer as well and where probably my biggest frustration.
It was a bit of a vicious circle, as I felt my skiing was poor, my confidence went, then trying things out, stance-adjusting boots- flex etc. More than once I had to stop half way down a steep run and allow everyone around me to move on and just "get down" .... I had thought them days where behind me.
I realised I had not progressed as far as I had thought, and that hurts
We are back in the 1st week in March and will have to get a private lesson to see what I am doing wrong !!!
thatsme... sorry you did not like Oberstdorf, if you had read the thread it was written that the fellhorn-Kleinwalsertal is by far the biggest ski area for any experienced skier that is probably where you would have been happiest. The only problem is it is not great for learners.
Livigno sound nice, I might PM you for more info0 -
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Hi everyone,
I am english and have lived in the Allgäu since 1999. I am a qualified Snowboard Instructor through the german DSLV, and work frequently at the Alpine Ski-School in Oberstdorf. So for those of you that wanna learn the first moves, you know where to come with english tuition!
I was originally drawn here by the backcountry which offers so much in terms of freeride-snowboarding possibilities. The region is alot less crowded as the larger known resorts, and even during the peak holiday season, I´ll often find first tracks. For the more adventurous of you there´s a good chance I could show you some of the regions finest off-piste that many still don´t know about! Inspire yourselves by viewing one of my homemade freeriding videos by clicking the link below!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO69t1bBt5w
I am also the Karaoke DJ in O´Reilly`s Irish Pub in Oberstdorf every Thursday night! Harry and his team have a great venue to unwind in after a stretch on the mountain! Thursday night has become something of an institution over the last 8 years, maybe you too could demonstrate your vocal talents, or make the dogs how! Again, inspire yourselves by checking out my Party Events website: www.p-p-e.de
From May to October, I manage the region´s first "Disc Golf" (frisbee-golf) course! The course is the highest in Germany at 1100m above sea level and attracts a wide variety of ages wishing to experience hill walking with a difference! This alternative leisure activity has become highly popular with school and youth groups. Find out more about Disc Golf in Allgäu under the following link: www.frizbee.at
Should you be interested in such activities, why not give a me buzz! My contact details are on the said websites.
So the last thing I wanna say is enjoy your stay in Bavaria! I did and still do! Maybe we´ll see us soon! 0 -
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partycrasher wrote: »Alpine Ski School (opposite the Train Station)
Hi partycrasher, welcome to boards.ie.
Alpine Ski School has been mentioned a few times on this thread, any chance of arranging a discount
3 weeks to Oberstdorf, can't wait.0 -
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Thanks for the reply, have used that ski school before alright, did you snowboard or ski, just in relation to the quality of their rentals? I think my friend used another ski school at the sollereck and the snowboard boots he got were terrible. So how was the snow this year?
No worries, I snowboard with my mate and my OH skis. I think there are 3 ski schools at the Sollereck, Neue Ski (red gear), Alpine (green) and First Ski Schule (orange), though not too sure about the last one (think they turn up in a jeep/van).
Their rentals have been very good the 2 years we were there. They change the boards/skis/boots either every season or second season. My mate and I were very happy with the boards and ended up buying them, got new bindings thrown in too. That said we were thinking of buying before going out there as were probably going back in March. I rented a pair of boots that were too small and there was no problem changing them. When we decided to buy the board they didn't charge us rental.
My OH skis were definitely not old as there was barely a mark on them. The snow was great (last year was crap). We had 2 blizzards which we came down the Nebelhorn in, then 2 days of no snow, which is fine as so much fell before. The last 3 days had around 4-12 inches of snow a day. Going down the piste wasn't much different to going off piste during the blizzards.
My gf was learning on the sollereck and she said the snow was very good there too, barely any ice.
Are you going skiing or snowboarding? Beware though, there is no English menus there
, germknobel is lovely though!
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Thanks for all the info, I plan to snowboard, bought a board 2 years ago so trying to get the most use out of it, have to get some P-Tex at it though as after last years terrible snow theres some rather nasty lumps taken out of it... There is 5-6 or us going a mix of skiers and snowboarders and on e of my friends is totally new to it so want to get him the best tuition possible... Know what ya meaan about teh german menus, find the chinese place pretty good though... We're going druing carnival week so should be a good bit going on in the town...No worries, I snowboard with my mate and my OH skis. I think there are 3 ski schools at the Sollereck, Neue Ski (red gear), Alpine (green) and First Ski Schule (orange), though not too sure about the last one (think they turn up in a jeep/van).
Their rentals have been very good the 2 years we were there. They change the boards/skis/boots either every season or second season. My mate and I were very happy with the boards and ended up buying them, got new bindings thrown in too. That said we were thinking of buying before going out there as were probably going back in March. I rented a pair of boots that were too small and there was no problem changing them. When we decided to buy the board they didn't charge us rental.
My OH skis were definitely not old as there was barely a mark on them. The snow was great (last year was crap). We had 2 blizzards which we came down the Nebelhorn in, then 2 days of no snow, which is fine as so much fell before. The last 3 days had around 4-12 inches of snow a day. Going down the piste wasn't much different to going off piste during the blizzards.
My gf was learning on the sollereck and she said the snow was very good there too, barely any ice.
Are you going skiing or snowboarding? Beware though, there is no English menus there, germknobel is lovely though!
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