Who will you vote for?

Cloned Alien

Deise Tom wrote: »

There should be at least one in every electorate area.

Yes but they run on stupid policies.
Like in the Dublin South by election one young man Ross omullan ran based on being canvasing online, how stupid is that. And another old man ran for the sake of it why.

meditraitor

Deise Tom wrote: »

And thank you for allowing me to say how i feel, even if we dont agree on who is the best of a bad bunch.

We do agree on one thing (one thing only) Enda Kenny is no Taoiseach........

jmayo

Deise Tom wrote: »

The night Brian Cowan was on the Late Late he did say that he would stand over any decision he made while minister for finance and he done what he thought was for the best for the people. I have no reason to think he dont anything but for as he said for the best, but somethings did go wrong.

What people must not forget is that the ministers are not necessarly experts in their asigned departments, but those in the departments that are advising them are or at least should be, these faceless people to most of the country are the real reason the country is the way it is. These are people that are on big salaries and bonus' and are the ones that will not be the ones taking the biggest hit come the budget in December. Fianna Fail have made mistakes over the past 12 or 13 years, but so have these faceless people that will be still in a job no matter who is in power now or after the next election .

Ah so now it is the faceless advisors :rolleyes:

Maybe the next ones to blame are the fairies ?

By all accounts Dept. of Finance officials, Central Bank and the heads of other banks did not want Anglo to be included in the guarantee scheme from last year.
But wiat the minister of finance went ahead and included them.
Guess what we had to nationalise them, so far costing us the taxpayers 7 odd billion, and then upto another 30billion in toxic debts that will be susbumed into NAMA.

As most people know if you cross a minister it can severly limit your career prospects, especially if from a party that has a good chance of being in power for a few years.

BTW why did the government of 2002-2007 ignore all the information coming from external sources and just supposedly believe these faceless unknowns that supposedly told them to run the country into the ground ?

It's not as if they couldn't find the likes of Morgan Kelly, George Lee, the OECD, etc. :rolleyes:

Oh and ven mor eimportantly why the taoiseach of the day insult those, and people who have had family members die through suicide, that actually tried to point out where they were going ?

Deise Tom wrote: »

There should be at least one in every electorate area.

Well your friend over in Kerry South have one, a real special one :rolleyes:

Ah but sure you have a special party one in your constituency or county.
You know the one that blew 50 million and counting on an e-voting solution that lots of experts told him was cack.
Must have been those faceless ones again telling him go ahead

meditraitor

jmayo wrote: »

Ah but sure you have a special party one in your constituency or county.
You know the one that blew 50 million and counting on an e-voting solution that lots of experts told him was cack.
Must have been those faceless ones again telling him go ahead

And Fianna Gael actually wanted internet voting!!!! lucky they were not in office at the time :eek:

jmayo

meditraitor wrote: »

And Fianna Gael actually wanted internet voting!!!! lucky they were not in office at the time :eek:

BTW it is Fine Gael.

Well could the internet voting have been any worse than what we got. :rolleyes:
At least with internet voting they wouldn't have to pay for so much storage, now would they :mad:

So if you describe Kenny as a plank, what description goes for cowen, nevermind his number two, mary scary haven't got bogs notion ?

meditraitor

jmayo wrote: »

BTW it is Fine Gael. (or FF little brother)
Well could the internet voting have been any worse than what we got. :rolleyes:
At least with internet voting they wouldn't have to pay for so much storage, now would they :mad:

So if you describe Kenny as a plank, what description goes for cowen, nevermind his number two, mary scary haven't got bogs notion ?

Planks

Couldnt agree more:D. They are all cut from the same clothe, time for a change away from Civil war politics.

PomBear

Fianna Failure- Mediocre Politicians, mediocre government, out of touch with their constitutients, they've made it clear who they're looking out for in this recession and it ain't us. Pathetic excuse for politicians, I actually think I could do a much better job than Brian Cowen, myself.

Fine Gael-Blueshirts, more right wing than FF, much of the same with them. Not to be considered.

Greens-Sold us down the river with FF coalition, had a chance to reject the unstable investment that is NAMA, pathetic excuse for a party. Sold their soul. Also they supported Tara to be ripped up for m3, some enviromentalists they are.

Labour- I appreciate their Left wing politics but I believe they go into coalitian with absolutely anyone and are quickly selling their souls also. I appreciate their stance on NAMA but not Lisbon, Eamon Gilmore lost my respect when he canvassed for the 2nd vote.

Sinn Féin- Look after the community, are community and working class inclined. Were against Lisbon and NAMA from the start. Left Wing Socialists- very important. re-Unification of Ireland- Very important. A few weak politicians i.e. Mary Lou, Gerry and Martin but they're in line for a big leadership reform which I hope Pearse Doherty will be the next prez. Also they're continuing lobbying for support of the Irish Language is important

jmayo

meditraitor wrote: »

Planks

Couldnt agree more:D. They are all cut from the same clothe, time for a change away from Civil war politics.

So then who ?
One thing i don't get is why FG are labelled as being the same as FF ?
Yes policies may be similar but they do have a few people who at least appear capable, nevermind not in the pockets of developers, bankers and unions.
At least they turf out their rotten apples (lowry) whereas FF promote them (burke, lawlor, ahern)

PomBear wrote: »

Fianna Failure- Mediocre Politicians, mediocre government, out of touch with their constitutients, they've made it clear who they're looking out for in this recession and it ain't us. Pathetic excuse for politicians, I actually think I could do a much better job than Brian Cowen, myself.

Fine Gael-Blueshirts, more right wing than FF, much of the same with them. Not to be considered.

Greens-Sold us down the river with FF coalition, had a chance to reject the unstable investment that is NAMA, pathetic excuse for a party. Sold their soul. Also they supported Tara to be ripped up for m3, some enviromentalists they are.

Labour- I appreciate their Left wing politics but I believe they go into coalitian with absolutely anyone and are quickly selling their souls also. I appreciate their stance on NAMA but not Lisbon, Eamon Gilmore lost my respect when he canvassed for the 2nd vote.

Sinn Féin- Look after the community, are community and working class inclined. Were against Lisbon and NAMA from the start. Left Wing Socialists- very important. re-Unification of Ireland- Very important. A few weak politicians i.e. Mary Lou, Gerry and Martin but they're in line for a big leadership reform which I hope Pearse Doherty will be the next prez. Also they're continuing lobbying for support of the Irish Language is important

So left wing, marxist, tax the bejaysus out of us, scare off any FDI, consign ourselves to being affectively out of the loop with rest of EU, unite with NI at all costs, and support the Irish language you reckon is the way to go. :rolleyes:
Perhaps we should be dancing at the cross roads as well ?

BTW to some people SF, or rather their friends, don't so much look after the community but rather try and control it.

No thanks, I don't want a party in government that thinks failed marxist communist polices are the way to go, as was evident when McDowel tore shreds out of Adams before last election, nevermind have top party members collect murderers from jail.
As bad as the gimps in ff are, they haven't resorted to excusing the murderers of members of our police force.
And yes I do remember members of different parties making representations on behalf of criminals and they got their ar**es kicked and apologised.

And I do not agree with the way the church was given an the easy ride on their child abuse costs and responsibility.

electrogrimey

PomBear wrote: »

Re-Unification of Ireland- Very important.

I smell a taxi driver.

irish_bob

PomBear wrote: »

Fianna Failure- Mediocre Politicians, mediocre government, out of touch with their constitutients, they've made it clear who they're looking out for in this recession and it ain't us. Pathetic excuse for politicians, I actually think I could do a much better job than Brian Cowen, myself.

Fine Gael-Blueshirts, more right wing than FF, much of the same with them. Not to be considered.

Greens-Sold us down the river with FF coalition, had a chance to reject the unstable investment that is NAMA, pathetic excuse for a party. Sold their soul. Also they supported Tara to be ripped up for m3, some enviromentalists they are.

Labour- I appreciate their Left wing politics but I believe they go into coalitian with absolutely anyone and are quickly selling their souls also. I appreciate their stance on NAMA but not Lisbon, Eamon Gilmore lost my respect when he canvassed for the 2nd vote.

Sinn Féin- Look after the community, are community and working class inclined. Were against Lisbon and NAMA from the start. Left Wing Socialists- very important. re-Unification of Ireland- Very important. A few weak politicians i.e. Mary Lou, Gerry and Martin but they're in line for a big leadership reform which I hope Pearse Doherty will be the next prez. Also they're continuing lobbying for support of the Irish Language is important

and people wonder why the shinners are stuck on 7% this past 7 years

Taxipete29

PomBear wrote: »

Fianna Failure- Mediocre Politicians, mediocre government, out of touch with their constitutients, they've made it clear who they're looking out for in this recession and it ain't us. Pathetic excuse for politicians, I actually think I could do a much better job than Brian Cowen, myself.

Fine Gael-Blueshirts, more right wing than FF, much of the same with them. Not to be considered.

Greens-Sold us down the river with FF coalition, had a chance to reject the unstable investment that is NAMA, pathetic excuse for a party. Sold their soul. Also they supported Tara to be ripped up for m3, some enviromentalists they are.

Labour- I appreciate their Left wing politics but I believe they go into coalitian with absolutely anyone and are quickly selling their souls also. I appreciate their stance on NAMA but not Lisbon, Eamon Gilmore lost my respect when he canvassed for the 2nd vote.

Sinn Féin- Look after the community, are community and working class inclined. Were against Lisbon and NAMA from the start. Left Wing Socialists- very important. re-Unification of Ireland- Very important. A few weak politicians i.e. Mary Lou, Gerry and Martin but they're in line for a big leadership reform which I hope Pearse Doherty will be the next prez. Also they're continuing lobbying for support of the Irish Language is important

Sinn Fein would sell their granny to get into power in the south and dont think for a second they wouldnt. The problem and the only problem for them is at the moment none of the main 3 would even consider it. If any party approached SF they would jump on it in a heartbeat.

Why did Eamonn Gilmore not lose your respect when he canvassed for Lisbon the first time?

PomBear

Taxipete29 wrote: »

Sinn Fein would sell their granny to get into power in the south and dont think for a second they wouldnt. The problem and the only problem for them is at the moment none of the main 3 would even consider it. If any party approached SF they would jump on it in a heartbeat.

Why did Eamonn Gilmore not lose your respect when he canvassed for Lisbon the first time?

I think the only party SF would consider coalition with would be Labour.

Because I still had some respect for him because he calls money grabbing politicians on alot of things

PomBear

jmayo wrote: »

So then who ?
One thing i don't get is why FG are labelled as being the same as FF ?
Yes policies may be similar but they do have a few people who at least appear capable, nevermind not in the pockets of developers, bankers and unions.
At least they turf out their rotten apples (lowry) whereas FF promote them (burke, lawlor, ahern)



So left wing, marxist, tax the bejaysus out of us, scare off any FDI, consign ourselves to being affectively out of the loop with rest of EU, unite with NI at all costs, and support the Irish language you reckon is the way to go. :rolleyes:
Perhaps we should be dancing at the cross roads as well ?

BTW to some people SF, or rather their friends, don't so much look after the community but rather try and control it.

No thanks, I don't want a party in government that thinks failed marxist communist polices are the way to go, as was evident when McDowel tore shreds out of Adams before last election, nevermind have top party members collect murderers from jail.
As bad as the gimps in ff are, they haven't resorted to excusing the murderers of members of our police force.
And yes I do remember members of different parties making representations on behalf of criminals and they got their ar**es kicked and apologised.

And I do not agree with the way the church was given an the easy ride on their child abuse costs and responsibility.

example?

And i condemn SF meeting with Gerry McCabes killers

Blarggggh

[FONT=&quot]Hi Im from Drogheda, Ive seen your work on the Crumlin hospital thread, and your intentions about running in the next election. Im from Stameen and I have been thinking of voting for you, if you run[/FONT].

Biggins wrote: »

I was some day (I don't expect my first try to be successful to be honest) to represent the Irish people, if the earnings and perks were still at around the same numbers, a good deal 20/30% of it will be donated to a certain national crises centre in Dublin and Crumlins Children's hospital.

But haven’t you posted before that you would donate ALL your earnings over the average industrial wage.


Ill be voting SF/IND or FG

Blarggggh

PomBear wrote: »

I think the only party SF would consider coalition with would be Labour.

They will go into coalition with anytone cop on

PomBear

Blarggggh wrote: »

They will go into coalition with anytone cop on

Where can you back this up?

Where have they went into coalition with FG/FF/Greens on even a county council level?

Do you know the difference between Left Wing/Right Wing?

nuac

I agree with JMAYO posting on Sinn Fein, and also the poster who mentioned their support of Gda McCAbe's murderers. We do need substantial and continued FDI here. Having Sinn Fein in power would hinder that.