Sunderland V Liverpool 17/10/09 Match Thread

NabyLadistheman

Torres & Gerrard - Both out for tomorrow. Off the LFC website.

Holy testicle tuesday

RasTa

Gerrard and Torres out for tomorrow.

SlickRic

c'mon young David son.

so it'll be, i reckon, and hope...

---Masch---Lucas---
Dirk----Benny---Riera

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N'Gog

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or, if Dirk's injured, Benny wide and the Vorinator in behind.

8-10

SlickRic wrote: »

c'mon young David son.

so it'll be, i reckon, and hope...

---Masch---Lucas---
Dirk----Benny---Riera

---

N'Gog

---

or, if Dirk's injured, Benny wide and the Vorinator in behind.

Dirk was off in Australia and Masch and Lucas only fly in today from south america AFAIK, could be a tired team. Personally could see Sunderland getting something out of it.

Would love to see Agger get a game.

Dublin_Gunner

SlickRic wrote: »

c'mon young David son.

so it'll be, i reckon, and hope...

---Masch---Lucas---
Dirk----Benny---Riera

---

N'Gog

---

or, if Dirk's injured, Benny wide and the Vorinator in behind.

Oh dear. And against an in-form Sunderland :eek:

The lads better be putting in performances as if their lives depended on it to get a decent result tomorrow. A win is crucial IMO.

On Aquilani - here he is training, at last!
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166092091015-1727.htm

kida

8-10 wrote: »

Dirk was off in Australia and Masch and Lucas only fly in today from south america AFAIK, could be a tired team. Personally could see Sunderland getting something out of it.

Would love to see Agger get a game.

could be a weak team as Rafa normally doesn't play players who play midweek in south america.
can see Sunderland getting a point at least, massive boost for them to hear this.

Fink Goddie

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5631498,00.html

Oh holy god! not looking forward to what might happen tomorrow. not good!

8-10

Fink Goddie wrote: »

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5631498,00.html

Oh holy god! not looking forward to what might happen tomorrow. not good!

At least we know Kuyt is ok. I reckon him up front with Riera and Babel supporting. Good chance for Ryan.

Fink Goddie

SlickRic wrote: »

c'mon young David son.

so it'll be, i reckon, and hope...

---Masch---Lucas---
Dirk----Benny---Riera

---

N'Gog

---

or, if Dirk's injured, Benny wide and the Vorinator in behind.

What an average team that is

Dublin_Gunner

Maybe a slight change of formation could work well.

(not including the back 5)

Babel---Masch--Riera

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Benny----

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N'Gog---Kuyt---

In a more attacking 4-4-2.

It would certainly be a quick and attacking starting line up.

Mr Alan

****

spockety

I predict a convincing Liverpool win.

mike65

:mad:

Both players involved with dead rubbers, Kuyt sent to Oz, Lucas/Masch only back today. GODDAM INTERNATIONALS!

Mr Alan

----Mascherano--Lucas

---

Kuyt

---

Yossi

---

Albert

---

Voronin

---

would like to see Ngog start up top, but not sure if that'll happen.

SlickRic

would you believe, i forgot about ryan. i'll give myself a slap accordingly.

stick him out wide, with kuyt up front. n'gog can be our supersub.

that is not that average a front 6. it's definitely worse without our star men, but it should still have enough to scrape past sunderland if it plays to it's potential.

a win is vital.

i'm going to be cacking myself tomorrow.

Mr Alan

LOL i forgot about Babel as well

i agree with Slick.

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Mascherano---Lucas

---

Babel

---

Yossi

---

Albert

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Kuyt

---

or

Yossi---Mascherano--Lucas---Riera

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Kuyt----Babel

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a win tomorrow would be a huge result.

Paul Tergat

These are the kind of games where you will really need to show that you are capable of winning titles. 2 of the worlds best out. Utd missing both strikers too but at least we're at home. Going to be an interesting weekend. At least ya dont have any african players and so wont be missing them in Jan.

slingerz

benitez has said that kuyt will play up front front so babel, benni, riera behind with Masch and Lucas.

They might actually play better without the 2 boys tomorrow

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Excellent news Torres & Gerrard are out. Hoping Kenwyne will start tomorrow, had a long flight back from international duty.

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Gordon

Bardsley - Turner - Ferdinand - Mensah

Malbranque - Cattermole - Cana - Reid

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Jones - Bent

We look a totally different propsition this season. Cana in particular is a colossus, hard to believe Marseille let their captain and star player go for only 5 bloody million! Cattermole and Cana make us very rough in the centre, Cana is also a very good footabller. Reid has been a revelation this season because of the weight loss.

2-0 to us.

Fink Goddie

Funny how the same people that were saying not so long ago how great the rest of our squad was are worried about tomorrow now!

Dublin_Gunner

Thread for discussing Sunderland V Liverpool, 17th October.

I predict a Liverpool win, but I can see Sunderland scoring.

Maybe something along the lines of a 2-3.

_blank_

I want Liverpool to win, I want them to hammer Sunderland actually.

killwill

Gerrard and Torres both out. I am going for 2-1 Sunderland. A bit hopefull I know but they are strong going forward.

Dublin_Gunner

Des wrote: »

I want Liverpool to win, I want them to hammer Sunderland actually.

Bitter about something Des?

spockety

Liverpool to win, convincingly.

Nobody will be talking about the abscence of Gerrard and Torres in a negative light on Match of the Day.

Des

Des wrote: »

I want Liverpool to win, I want them to hammer Sunderland actually.

:eek:

Someone has hacked into Des's account!!

SlickRic

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Funny how the same people that were saying not so long ago how great the rest of our squad was are worried about tomorrow now!

sunderland are in form.

we're missing our best players at the same time, away from home.

bloody hell, utd fans are on here saying they're worried too seen as Rooney and Owen are out for them, as well as maybe Berbatov after a long trip back.

i'm still reasonably confident in the rest of our squad; i don't think anyone ever fell over themseves saying how unbelievable it was. but i'm confident.

you miss your best players, always. and it makes you worry somewhat when they're missing, always.

Mr Alan

Mr Alan wrote: »

----Mascherano--Lucas

---

Kuyt

---

Yossi

---

Albert

---

Voronin

---

would like to see Ngog start up top, but not sure if that'll happen.

Will Mash play ? Usually gets a rest after an Argie game

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Excellent news Torres & Gerrard are out. Hoping Kenwyne will start tomorrow, had a long flight back from international duty.

---

Gordon

Bardsley - Turner - Ferdinand - Mensah

Malbranque - Cattermole - Cana - Reid

---

Jones - Bent

We look a totally different propsition this season. Cana in particular is a colossus, hard to believe Marseille let their captain and star player go for only 5 bloody million! Cattermole and Cana make us very rough in the centre, Cana is also a very good footballer. Reid has been a revelation this season because of the weight loss.

2-0 to us.

Fink Goddie

SlickRic wrote: »

sunderland are in form.

we're missing our best players at the same time, away from home.

bloody hell, utd fans are on here saying they're worried too seen as Rooney and Owen are out for them, as well as maybe Berbatov after a long trip back.

i'm still reasonably confident in the rest of our squad; i don't think anyone ever fell over themseves saying how unbelievable it was. but i'm confident.

you miss your best players, always. and it makes you worry somewhat when they're missing, always.

Worrying somewhat is not 'cacking yourself'!!!
United still have players on the pitch that can turn a game around, like Giggs to name one, who do we have?? Maybe Yossi, who else?

rarnes1 wrote: »

Will Mash play ? Usually gets a rest after an Argie game

If he doesnt our midfield will be sh1t and we're royally screwed!

flahavaj

This is the kind of match, with their 2 star players missing that true champions would go and win anyway. Massive, massive game for Liverpool.

kida

flahavaj wrote: »

This is the kind of match, with their 2 star players missing that true champions would go and win anyway. Massive, massive game for Liverpool.

would even go as far as to say it could shape their season

SlickRic

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Worrying somewhat is not 'cacking yourself'!!!

i'm worried either way because it's a massive game, away to a team in form. that coupled with our two best players being missing makes me very very worried.

it doesn't mean i'm not confident in our squad, it just means it would be a easier if all our best players were available to us.

mike65

4/1 Sunderland get on.

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Reina
Johnson--Carra-Agger--Insua

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Masch-Aurelio
Kuyt

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Yossi

---

Reira

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NGog

or maybe 4-4-2 with Yossi right and Kuyt + N'Gog up front

Tusky

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Babel

---

Benny
Riera

---

Kuyt

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Masch--Lucas

Aurelio----Skrtel--Carra--Johnson

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Reina

I'd play a 4-4-2 with Benny off Babel.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

The main weakness in Sunderland is Anton Ferdinand. Has had a poor start to the season, but was instrumental at Old Trafford though and the og was unlucky.

Hopefully we can take advantage of Liverpool at set pieces, since Reid shed loads of weight he hasn't been as tired taking them (he was woeful at them last season) and they've been very good. Helps that Turner, Cana and Jones are built like brick sh!thouses mind.

Karmafaerie

Last 2 seasons.

Sunderland____0-2_____Liverpool
Liverpool______3-0_____Sunderland
Sunderland____0-1_____Liverpool
Liverpool______2-0_____Sunderland


8-0

12/12 Points

I expect the same tomorrow.

Tusky

Tusky wrote: »

---

Babel

---

Benny
Riera

---

Kuyt

---

Masch--Lucas

Aurelio----Skrtel--Carra--Johnson

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Reina

I'd play a 4-4-2 with Benny off Babel.

I'd go with that team but swap Kuyt's and Babels position.

Great oppurtunity for Babel to shine the next few games.

Fink Goddie

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Last 2 seasons.

Sunderland____0-2_____Liverpool
Liverpool______3-0_____Sunderland
Sunderland____0-1_____Liverpool
Liverpool______2-0_____Sunderland


8-0

12/12 Points

I expect the same tomorrow.

The past means nothing!!!

IRISHSPORTSGUY

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Hopefully we can take advantage of Liverpool at set pieces, since Reid shed loads of weight he hasn't been as tired taking them (he was woeful at them last season) and they've been very good.

Tired from taking frees/corners? He wasn't that big ffs !

flahavaj

The present means something.

The future means everything.

SlickRic

Fink Goddie wrote: »

The past means nothing!!!

well, yes, it does mean something.

it shows what normally happens between the two teams.

it's in no way definitive, obviously, but it gives an indication.

by your reasoning, in a game against morecambe we don't know what to expect because the past means nothing.

NabyLadistheman

Fink Goddie wrote: »

The past means nothing!!!

Get a grip Fink. Using this as an opportunity to prove yourself right. The truth is we'd prob have struggled tomorrow with the 2 boys.

Your so bloody critical of the squad but I don't know how different it could be based on what we've been able to spend. We all know the way you feel but really you add nothing because all you do is criticise

flahavaj

Fat ankles

IRISHSPORTSGUY

rarnes1 wrote: »

Tired from taking frees/corners? He wasn't that big ffs !

Less tired in the run up. He always looked exhausted after an hour too.

Set pieces have improved dramatically.

prendy

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Last 2 seasons.

Sunderland____0-2_____Liverpool
Liverpool______3-0_____Sunderland
Sunderland____0-1_____Liverpool
Liverpool______2-0_____Sunderland


8-0

12/12 Points

I expect the same tomorrow.

we deffo wont win 8-0 tommorow!!!
i reckon 3-0 with babel and co proving people wrong!

SlickRic

prendy wrote: »

i reckon 3-0 with babel and co proving people wrong!

now that i've remembered Babel...:o...i indeed expect him to put in a good performance.

if there was ever a time to step up it's now.

Dublin_Gunner

This would possibly be my favoured starting XI for Liverpool tomorrow, as I posted in the Liverpool thread.

(not including the back 5)

Babel---Masch--Riera

---

Benny----

---

N'Gog---Kuyt---

In a more attacking 4-4-2.

It would certainly be a quick and attacking starting line up.

Dublin_Gunner

SlickRic wrote: »

now that i've remembered Babel...:o...i indeed expect him to put in a good performance.

if there was ever a time to step up it's now.

I would be openly willing to change my opinion on the man if he can pull a top performance out of the bag tomorrow.

I fully expect him to start, and I want to see him going for it from the start.

SlickRic

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm worried either way because it's a massive game, away to a team in form. that coupled with our two best players being missing makes me very very worried.

it doesn't mean i'm not confident in our squad, it just means it would be a easier if all our best players were available to us.

We did quite well when Gerrard and Torres were out last year. We have quality all over the pitch and on the bench.

Karmafaerie

Fink Goddie wrote: »

The past means nothing!!!

Wow.
It's normally Utd fans who say that to Liverpool fans.

Of course the bloody past means something!:rolleyes:
Or does their form mean nothing, cause that's in the past too.

We know how to beat them.
We know how to shut them out.
We know how to score against them.
We know how to score against them and beat them at the Stadium Of Light.
Last year Ngog scored the second.
Last season we beat the 2-0 with no Torres.
The season before we beat them 2-0 with no Gerrard.

If you honestly think that none of that has any bearing on tomorrows match, I don't know what to say.