Alien vs. Predator 3 - Alien Reveal Trailer

Zith

ordered mine from zavvi.co.uk for 21 euro. It was dispatched Tuesday morning so here's hoping it lands on my mat this evening.

L31mr0d

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Poor review from eurogamer. I get the feeling it's a totally uneventful and uninspired game wrapped up in the two franchises clothing.

Initial impressions from me are that it's very good. It's a good thing there's no crouch or I'd spend the majority of my time backed into a corner unloading clips into the darkness. Even in DX9 mode, it looks a helluvalot better on the PC than the steam demo, better shadowing and bump mapping.

I've only played a bit of the marines campaign but already it's surpassing the levels of tension and uneasiness of the originals or Deadspace.

My worry, however, is that they are quickly overpowering me with better weapons. It starts off great only having a pistol, but as soon as you get your first real weapon (15 minutes into it), the pulse rifle, the balance instantly shifts into your favor. I've a feeling as the game progresses and I get bigger and more OTT weapons that's it's just going to be a Doom or Quake clone.

Agricola

That EuroGamer review didnt stir my loins. Just got Mass Effect 1 for half nothing on Ebay so ill stick to that I think. Ill give AvP a go when its going for half nothing.

Creature

It's good. I've only played the Predator campaign so far but am finding dealing with the aliens quite hard. I suppose I'm just not used to the melee combat yet but when there's a group of them they swam me and I end up quite dead quite fast. The humans are just cannon fodder however

WhiskeyGoblin

The Smart gun is ****ing funnnnn

only 69.99 for hunter edition in Blanch HMV

SeantheMan

I never listen to EuroGamer !!!
Probably worth renting and seeing for yourself. I'll be buying it anyways

I always like looking at the reviews on Gametrailers myself

SeantheMan

SeantheMan wrote: »

I never listen to EuroGamer !!!
Probably worth renting and seeing for yourself. I'll be buying it anyways

I always like looking at the reviews on Gametrailers myself

Gametrailers scored it pretty well, 7.7

The reviews have been mixed, so i don't see why some people are taking one bad one and claiming that to be the supreme ruling on the game, just as easy to take a good one, and i love it so far, DM won't yield many games but the AvP only modes along with Survivor(Ruins map) are a refreshing change from your normal TDM

Ravage1616

Have to say i'm enjoying it! Finding the Marine missions quite jumpy! Any beep on motion tracking and I let rip!!

dreamers75

I going with the rogue trooper idea on this, as a kid i ****ing loved rogue trooper now i love games and a rogue trooper game came out and was very true to the original story. it wasnt great but i enjoyed it mostly for the fanboyism in me and i actually own it


AVP is kinda the same but different, the originals are brilliant but very flawed games, but still brilliant even tho in a review context the reviews would encourage most not to buy. Add in the fanboy and i pretty much bought this game the day it was announced or commited to buying it.


Sad but true the fanboy in us all wants something to be good even if its **** we will still buy it

Branoic

Loving it so far. Just played the first missions of each campaign. I wonder what order its intended to be played in? All the way through each campaign or one mission at a time from each? Don't suppose it matters much, not like the story is that hard to follow or anything.

I like the marine missions, good solid FPS, nothing fancy. Not too hot on the alien so far, just finding the controls a tad fiddly. Predator absolutely rocks though.

WhiskeyGoblin

ProjectColossus wrote: »

That facehugger looks like it's been lazily photoshopped in to me

Its not photoshopped :mad:
its the proper thing from the hunter edition

Jonny7

From IGN.com

"Aliens vs. Predator could have been a truly great game. It’s there, you can almost feel it, but it’s constantly ripped away from you because of some poor design decisions and a general lack of quality that keeps the game from having that triple-A feeling. It’s by no means a bad game and will almost certainly please fans more so than either movie effort, but when compared to other first-person shooter titles on the market, the difference is clear."

score 7.3

Mediocre. I mean its pretty hard to ****up Aliens v Marine v Predator, theres just so much material there for a great game.. but the point is, why, at this stage, after the prequels, and mods, and multiplayer games, do they still manage to muck it up a fair bit? The review points at the fact that the game is dumbed down a bit for consoles.. sadly maybe its true, I mean I still play an 8 year old game where the melee combat is so excellent it takes years to learn and master, yet here we have a bells and whistles game which misses the mark again.

I wish some guys could just rip all the models and sounds out of this game and port them into half-life 2 or the crysis engine, then we'd have a proper PC version. Oh well, I'll wait a few patches and see if the multiplayer gets any better.

L31mr0d

The controls are a mess it has to be said, if they'd nailed the controls this could of been an amazing game. Real consolitis feel to them. The mouse movements are spongey and the whole blocking, melee mechanics are rubbish.

DARK-KNIGHT

L31mr0d wrote: »

The controls are a mess it has to be said, if they'd nailed the controls this could of been an amazing game. Real consolitis feel to them. The mouse movements are spongey and the whole blocking, melee mechanics are rubbish.

hey so whats the general idea? i buy most titles and at the mo there are so many coming out i dont know whats going on lol! anyways moneys tight with blazblue etc coming out should i buy this game?

ProjectColossus

marko93 wrote: »

Its not photoshopped :mad:
its the proper thing from the hunter edition

Sorry, no I realise that, it's just out of focus and looks weird. And 'shooped!

Maximilian

L31mr0d wrote: »

The controls are a mess it has to be said, if they'd nailed the controls this could of been an amazing game. Real consolitis feel to them. The mouse movements are spongey and the whole blocking, melee mechanics are rubbish.

I agree completely. I love the movies and I really wanted to like this game but if I'm going to be objective and ignore the lovely sound of the motion tracker and the pulse rifles, as a game its average at best.

The thing that annoys me the most is the feel of the controls. Is it input lag or something, I don't know? You can't even fire your rifle in bursts. Try pressing the left mouse button in quick succession. Nothing happens every 2nd press.

I'm calling fail on this one, I'm afraid. It's a console game. I suspect many will change their minds about it in a few weeks, on reflection.

Now, back to STALKER for me.

PogMoThoin

The controls is really only the only gripe I have with the game. Other than that I'm enjoying it so far.

WhiskeyGoblin

ProjectColossus wrote: »

Sorry, no I realise that, it's just out of focus and looks weird. And 'shooped!

Your a tool its not 'Shooped -_-

Retr0gamer

Marko93, anymore personal abuse and you'll find yourself on the wrong end of a ban.

WhiskeyGoblin

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Marko93, anymore personal abuse and you'll find yourself on the wrong end of a ban.

Fiiiine, sorry -_-



Holy **** the Marine ending is WHACK! :L

Now Predator or Alien Campaign now?

Creature

Bare in mind this is just my experience of single player. The Alien and Predator game modes are fine as far as I can see. Actually the Alien is a lot of fun, especially once you turn on automatic transitioning it makes moving onto walls and ceilings very smooth and fluid like. The predator is fun too, very stealthy and tactical. Kind of like Metal Gear, but with more spine removal...and claws to the face.


The problem for me is with the marine part of the game. It just feels too much like a basic common FPS. It still has atmosphere but gone are the gameplay aspects that made the original games such an experience. The aliens are now just generic stock enemies rather than the frightening lethal monsters that you expect. They take way too much ammo to kill. FFS it takes a half a clip to kill one of them. And as Leimrod said the melee and blocking system is very poor, and it becomes reduntant when you're fighting multiple aliens, which is most of the time.

Also the facehugger, what a pathetic fail :rolleyes:


Still I'm gonna stick with it for the time being. I hold out some hope for multiplayer.

Maximilian

Still on the Marine part.

Oh look I have to hack this door open. I'm told it's going to take a while and oh, there's lots of ammo lying around. I wonder what's going to happen next.

And monster closets? Really? 1995 again is it?

It's growing on me slightly but it could have been so much better. Like if Valve made it.

pixelburp

Maximilian wrote: »

Still on the Marine part.

Oh look I have to hack this door open. I'm told it's going to take a while and oh, there's lots of ammo lying around. I wonder what's going to happen next.

And monster closets? Really? 1995 again is it?

It's growing on me slightly but it could have been so much better. Like if Valve made it.

In fairness, even Valve are guilty of the "hold out 'til the elevator gets there" tactic. It happened in HL2 : Episode 1 & was just as yawnsome then.

A-Trak

pixelburp wrote: »

In fairness, even Valve are guilty of the "hold out 'til the elevator gets there" tactic.

And the whole campaign in both L4Deads is basically one massive "wait til the elevator gets here," as well as actually having a load of waiting on elevators too.

On topic, I traded in COD2 for AVP, a choice that sits well with me.
I'm enjoying it for what it is, and the sound, my god the sound!
Aliens and pulse rifles on 5.1 turned up to 11.

PirateShampoo

The campaign runs

Alien-Marine-Pred.

Outkast_IRE

I loved the first 2 games but iv just played the demo for this and the pc controls for this seem a bit off to me , i will pick this games up when it drops to a decent price too many good games in the next month to pay full whack for this.

Sisko

Can someone with the PC version let me know what they think of the multiplayer?

I plan on getting this just for the MP.

I loved 'The Hidden' HL2 mod.

Bubs101

What are the controls like for the XBox? Considering getting this once I finish Bioshock

balkieb2002

Just want to backup whats been said before regarding PC controls - what is up with them? The last game I played with mouse-lag or whatever it is this bad was Dues Ex - Invis War another ported console game and it ruined it for me. This is doing the same for me again. Only tried the Marine so far but it near impossible - with a mouse - to shoot moving aliens!! I wouldn't mind if it played like a typical FPS rather than its current incarnation.
Its been uninstalled until they release patch or hopefully some user made mod

Sisko

Turn off vsync to fix mouse lag. Worked for me in the demo anyway.

balkieb2002

Sisko wrote: »

Turn off vsync to fix mouse lag. Worked for me in the demo anyway.

Would normally have vsync off by default so not sure if it would have sorted it. As a test reduced all graphics to low and settings as thought it may have been actually graphics lag/slowdown but was still there. Seems just like personal issue with the game... will wait a while to reinstall.

Sisko

Hope it works out for you. I was wary of the consolities going into the game and instantly notice iffy mouse movement in the main menu, turned off vsync straight away. And things in the main menu improved a bit. When I got in game it seemed to move fine for me anyway.

Both on XP 32 and win7 64 installs. I've a 9800GTX gpu and Q6600 cpu if that helps.

skelliser

aliens is on film4 at 12.50 tonight, in like 25 minutes

WhiskeyGoblin

Just finished Predator campaign, ending was ok and last boss was a pain in the arse tbh. But ending was like the Marines one, i certainly hope Alien doesent end the same -_-

Mr. K

I was given this as a present yesterday. I've yet to play, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm thinking, for my campaign order, it'll go Marine, Alien, Predator.

Creature

I've been playing the three campaigns at once. Does completing in sequence really matter?

WhiskeyGoblin

Creature wrote: »

I've been playing the three campaigns at once. Does completing in sequence really matter?

Not really all the endings are different-ish well im basing this on Marine and Predator ending, it seems to lead to the same thing

Chairman Meow

So having spent the weekend with this, my verdicts:

Marine campaign:

Mostly awesome. The atmosphere is perfect, its tense, its scary. The constant blip of the motion tracker really freaks you out as soon as you hear it 'pinging' movement. There werent many set peices, aside from the club i cant think of many, but it was just rollercoaster 'OMFG' moments by and large, culminating with me actually shouting out THEYRE COMIN OUTTA THE GODDAMN WALLS!!! in the hive section
The only part where it compeltely **** the bed were combat androids, wtf?? They were zero fun to fight against. ****ing rubbish. And the final boss fight. Bloody hell, talk about pathetic. But, aside from those 2 moments, it was a great campaign and one any aliens fan should love.

Predator campaign:

Going from Marine to predator was a head****. Going to stealth mode from all out blasting was a weird switch up and took gettign used to. I failed the opening fight against the aliens so many times i had to restart on normal. The controls felt very fiddly an unintuitive. Not a great start. An hour or two later when you get to grips with it tho, it was great. Stalking marines and ripping aliens faces off, great stuff. Weak boss battle at the end tho, par for the course.

Aliens Campaign:

Only just started this, but aside from the disorientation, it seems great.

Multiplayer:

Survival is amazing. Whish there were more maps tho. Infestation is ****ING FANTASTIC. Genuinely bloody scary too. species team DM, argh, one game as the alien and i felt like puking. Too fast, too disorientating

Overall, i think its an 8/10 for aliens fans, and would probably be a 6 alright if youre not into the films. fortunately, i am Its a shame that rebellion dont have the funds of someone like IW or Bungie, cause you can genuinely see moments of really great graphics, at times it lookgs great and sounds even better, but then it gets let down when see a cut scene of bishop who looks like the worlds creepiest mannequin come to almost-life, or the predator whose movements in cut scenes looks robotic and jerky.

Mr. K

I gave the Marine campaign a go last night. It does a pretty good job of recreating the atmosphere of the second film. I love the way the Aliens move slowly until they've been spotted, then rush towards you. I found myself getting rather paranoid, whipping around whenever the motion tracker started. The part up until you meet the first Alien just great.

Gameplay-wise, I found the controls a bit sluggish (compared to MW2), but I imagine I'll adapt.

death1234567

Mr. K wrote: »

Gameplay-wise, I found the controls a bit sluggish (compared to MW2), but I imagine I'll adapt.

One of the reason's I'll be skipping this. Bad controls are the thing that turns me off most, I can handle poor graphics or a bad story, bad multiplayer but bad controls make me lose all interest in a game.

NunianVonFuch

death1234567 wrote: »

One of the reason's I'll be skipping this. Bad controls are the thing that turns me off most, I can handle poor graphics or a bad story, bad multiplayer but bad controls make me lose all interest in a game.

You can just turn up the sensitivity in the menu. I don't get how sluggish controls is ever an issue for ppl

pixelburp

NunianVonFuch wrote: »

You can just turn up the sensitivity in the menu. I don't get how sluggish controls is ever an issue for ppl

It's not just that - there's a certain ... stickiness, or feeling of lag, that's coming from the controls in AvP. I turned up the sensitivity, but it's not a complete solution to the issue as the cross-hair still feels like I'm a bit drunk.

NunianVonFuch

pixelburp wrote: »

It's not just that - there's a certain ... stickiness, or feeling of lag, that's coming from the controls in AvP. I turned up the sensitivity, but it's not a complete solution to the issue as the cross-hair still feels like I'm a bit drunk.

Do you mean on PC? Rebellion say they're looking into that: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/53215/Rebellion-Investigating-Aliens-vs-Predator-DirectX-10-11-Stuttering

I've only played it on 360 so can only speak for that, which is kinda what my flippant comment was based upon.

Jonny7

NunianVonFuch wrote: »

You can just turn up the sensitivity in the menu. I don't get how sluggish controls is ever an issue for ppl

Not a question of sensitivity really..

Normal controls have always been fine, from the earliest mouselook games, the controls respond with razor precision, quake, half-life, etc.. the problem is that some console ports aren't coded so well.. so when I play a game like GTA4 or whatever on the PC, it feels like I am playing quake with a 500 ping (awful latency) and massive packetloss.. so unresponsive, sluggish, slow.

Fire up half-life, as fast as you can physically turn the mouse, the game will track that.. the second you respond (0.21 of a second usually) and press the button the game will respond..

Its like that for nearly all PC games

So when a sluggish thing comes along we all notice it and hate it

On a console it would be like playing street fighter whatever and pressing light punch and the console deciding to punch a second later

TheDoc

Got it for the PC and I'm pretty annoyed.

At times when I'm trying to turn left or right, the game just stutters to complete lag on fps, and its not my machine.

Pretty annoying, so I've just stopped playing it, onto mass efffect.

Was enjoying it though playing as the pred and alien

Chairman Meow

AVP is confirmed as fastest selling game of the year

humanji

I'm only about halfway through each of the single player campaigns and played a handful of multiplayer games, but I'm not really enjoying this. It feels like it's a mod more than a real release, in that none of the Alien or Predator elements feel like they're part of the game, more like they've been tacked on to an existing one.

I was kind of pissed off how when one of the marines sees you, then they can see you from then on no matter how far a way you are or if you're cloaked or not. I was expecting something like the original game where they'd freak out and be shooting in random directions. I feels a bit cheap.

pixelburp

Well Im glad some people are persisting, I can't play this. My criticisms of the drunken mouse were mostly aimed at the multiplayer demo, but I am getting constant "stuttering" during the SP. I tried the suggested fixes in the link above, but it's still a stuttering frame-rate. It's not my rig either

PirateShampoo

Im still waiting on Play to deliver. Not holding any hope out for tomorrow post.

wayne040576

Rebellion boss says the reviews have been good adding:

"If you discount those poor reviews AvP is averaging high for us."

You could say that for a lot of games getting mixed/bad reviews.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/22/rebellion-boss-avp-is-a-critical-success-sequel-in-discussion/