Two different edits for C&C

simonp1

It's been quite a while since I asked for some opinions from everyone. These are two from this evening, not sure about them kinda like the black and white. What you think?

Thanks

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Morrisseeee

mmmm........difficult, I was gonna say B&W, but then the subject (the boat) stands out more to me in the color version, ie. the details are more vivid !

simonp1

Looking at them again, your right there is more detail in the colour one.
Thanks

Simon

CabanSail

Surprisingly I prefer the colour version too.

Would loose the orange line in the top right of the frame.

AnimalRights

Yep Colour.

simonp1

Thanks AnimalRights and Cabansail.

kumate_champ07

I like it but I find the bokeh ugly, but thats not your fault its the lens

Rb

I like the B&W version the most, the colour version doesn't really "do" anything for me.

AnCatDubh

I'm edging towards the colour version as they are now.

To me for the black and white to work, it needs a bit of punch to lift it. I actually think it needs to be more stark in b/w - you could try up'ing the contrast or apply a little s curve. Add more in the shadows. Burn life into it. It will give a harsher feel to it. It will introduce drama and roughness to it. IMHO it would give the image character. A small vignette may work well here too in order to make the subject stand out.

But a warning - the above suggestion won't be to everyone's taste.

Have fun with it.

Ghost Train

I like the colour, maybe slightly less saturation would keep the focus on the boat

smelltheglove

I was thinking similar to ghost here, but how about selective saturation? raise the saturation of the boat or drop the saturation of the background or selective colour saturation, I thin the shot hasnt reached its full potential, with the right treatment in can turn out to be a very raw aged looking shot, the boat just needs a bit of enhancement to get it there.

Any chance of doing it without the border? I feel the bulky black border is nto doing it justice.

simonp1

Cheers I'll have a go with some of those suggestions tonight and post back.

Simon

melekalikimaka

just a question re the 'bokeh' as its refered to here (search what is bokeh here for that story hehe) did you apply sharpening to the image?

Fionn

i cant tell if the B&W or the colour are better! for me, my eye stops going further than the bow/prow whatever you call it right at the start /front /foreground of the photograph so the rest is lost in the out of focus area, i had to look again to see the rest of the photograph, so maybe the colour! - i dislike the blur in this sorry.

simonp1

Yea I think I applied sharpening to it, and as far as the blurring that was the effect I was after shot at f2.8. I see what you mean though,Fionn by not being able to follow the line of the boat back.
AnCatDubh here is my attempt with curves better? and STG I will have a go with your suggestions later when I get back.
Cheers everyone.

melekalikimaka

i think the dodgy 'bokeh' is caused by the sharpening. create a layer, just select the boat and apply sharpening, should clean up the 'bokeh' nicely... i think

simonp1

I think I have used all your suggestions and this is what I came up with. It looks better than the first few alright cheers again.

Simon

AnCatDubh

The second black and white is a vast improvement imho on the first black and white - lots of drama and character and more detail evident in the timbers. A personal opinion but I don't think the border is setting the thing off. If you were hell bent on having a border then imho it would need to be chunkier and perhaps a pale grey / off white line directly around the image before the border is applied. Web mightn't be the best of formats for viewing such an image. I suspect a really good print of it would be very nice.

BUT have to say that you've done a nice re-edit on the colour version and I quite like the extra saturation plus more of the detail being brought out.

melekalikimaka

in the right middle ground... whats going on there?

simonp1

melekalikimaka wrote: »

in the right middle ground... whats going on there?

Fixed

simonp1

Last one I promise