watch out!

tootyflutty

we don't need names nor details as such, but just a warninng and maybe some places to be more vigilant wouldn't be too difficult to pass around?

princess_calico

tootyflutty wrote: »

we don't need names nor details as such, but just a warninng and maybe some places to be more vigilant wouldn't be too difficult to pass around?

again, another great idea, but we all know not to go near the dark trainstation path, not to walk in dark places, not to take gloomy shortcuts... but sometimes those paths etc are our only way of going where we need to go, and nothing can change it! basically all they can say is dont walk by yourself in the dark? like walking on to campus at the traffic lights opposite dunnes is freakin terrifying! even in a group im always paranoid but its a necessary evil! anywhere could be dangerous? cos rapists and attackers dont always hide under a tree wearing a black coat and a big hat. sure, the two girls that were beaten and threatened were just on one of the side streets off main st as far as im aware??

K4t

princess_calico wrote: »

like walking on to campus at the traffic lights opposite dunnes is freakin terrifying! even in a group im always paranoid but its a necessary evil!

Really?

Effluo

I'm living with a girl doing a h-dip who has already been studying in Maynooth for 3 years! Out one night she came back by the canal by herself...

When i told here about the Kingsbry attacks she was shocked. She was also unaware that the canal has been the scene of many attacks over the years!

I remember getting a warning from the security guy in one of the induction days about the canal area, but otherwise people just do not know. And calico, if you find dunnes intimidating, try out Greenfield! lol

K4t

Effluo wrote: »

I remember getting a warning from the security guy in one of the induction days about the canal area, but otherwise people just do not know. And calico, if you find dunnes intimidating, try out Greenfield! lol

A third year lad was mugged there in the same week as the attacks but I've never heard of any trouble there apart from that. I've walked home on my own many nights in Maynooth, mostly after walking girls home though. I've never had any trouble myself yet although I don't think I've been near Kingsbury, mostly around Beaufield and that area.

Is that Old Greenfield? Out past the bus terminal?

princess_calico

Effluo wrote: »

I'm living with a girl doing a h-dip who has already been studying in Maynooth for 3 years! Out one night she came back by the canal by herself...

When i told here about the Kingsbry attacks she was shocked. She was also unaware that the canal has been the scene of many attacks over the years!

I remember getting a warning from the security guy in one of the induction days about the canal area, but otherwise people just do not know. And calico, if you find dunnes intimidating, try out Greenfield! lol

it is getting really ridiculous... Like I'm originally from Limerick and have never felt intimidated or scared walking by myself there, or in Gorey, where I've been living for the past few years. More street lights on campus perhaps....?

5Aces

yea thats ground zero. the squad is doing a fair few laps around the area now after dark. to be fair they have the lights blinking so all they are going to catch is a student with a traffic cone on their head dragging a wheelie bin and a license plate. greenfield lads are in the newtown much more over the last week. might be taking a break from this stressful late night thievery.

LoLth

princess_calico wrote: »

ok..... so in THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEORY this is a great idea........ but as soon as the rapist of attacker hears about this plan... game over- he'll be standing outside mantra asking the girls if they want a lift home!

they actually thought of that and then cunningly defeated it by
a: an ID card complete with piccy that you had to show to say that yes, you were indeed a dogwalker
b: you were registered with the SU and as far as I know, that list went to the gardai as well, at least thats what we were told
c: on sign up they took , and verified, your ID and your address
d: you had to tell at least two people that you were walking the lady home (and have her there beside you)

funnily enough it was never really an end of the night thing, it was usually about half way through before you got plastered. Myself and a few others used to gather near the entrance to the SU, introduce ourselves to security and then have a pint or two. once the lady was home safely you came back all happy that the job was done and got plastered and then went looking for a young lady to escort home....

Effluo

princess_calico wrote: »

or in Gorey

K4T yeah old greenfield, Railpark and Rockfield are also places i wouldn't go to at night by myself!
Kingsbry was always seen as one of the better areas, i stayed there a good bit and it was generally just families and students. Can't speak for it now though!

I live in Silken Vale now(beside old greenfield) and the it's just crazy how lovely a place it is! Last year i was in Meadowbrooke Avenue. The wall beside my house was used as a shortcut for all the guys in Greenfield to get the the newtown area.

The difference between safe and dangerous in all urban areas can be just a matter of a wall, a traintrack or even just a name.
It's well and truly mad, but that's the way it is!

And calico, gorey is just as bad as maynooth! It's actually way worse.(i was assaulted by 3 guys a few years ago)
Again it's all about the area... Garden City, Willow Park in Gorey Are no go areas

masherella88

anyone else get PM'd by a guy from the evening herald wanting to talk about maynooth and how dangerous it is?

LeixlipRed

masherella88 wrote: »

anyone else get PM'd by a guy from the evening herald wanting to talk about maynooth and how dangerous it is?

Oh ffs, what a rag of a paper if that's true.

Effluo

Was he offering money???

lol

I wouldn't think that this is really news though... It's a problem in most towns not just maynooth, it's just specific areas like anywhere else!

If the news article at least warns people of the areas to be wary of then it's gonna be a good thing, Doing what the college should highlight as often as possible IMO!

ScissorPaperRock

Effluo wrote: »

Was he offering money???

lol

I wouldn't think that this is really news though... It's a problem in most towns not just maynooth, it's just specific areas like anywhere else!

If the news article at least warns people of the areas to be wary of then it's gonna be a good thing, Doing what the college should highlight as often as possible IMO!

They're just going to scare parents all around the country who have sons/daughter here or would potentially have sons/daughter coming here

Effluo

Well their job is to sell newspapers! (even if it's not supposed to be)

Silly articles on topical subjects for parents are always springing up! Might i add especially with the Irish Times. They do some terrible articles targeting the state exams and colleges!

LeixlipRed

The Herald article will read something like this:

"Internet nerds today revealed that they are living in fear of their lives in Maynooth as gangs of ravenous youths have begun roaming the town in search of easy pickings. Confidential sources have revealed that said youths intend to decieve authorities and walk young, nubile females home from the local student union crack den and ravage them in poorly tended bushes off the main byways. The Herald can confirm that Garda are treating these claims as "serious" and are asking the internet nerds to "attend the local station to help them with ongoing enquiries". Our intrepid reporter, Darragh "forum snooper" Byrne interviewed one of the nerds today through the medium of private message (or PM in nerdspeak) and the nerd expressed his fright at the current vile situation in the town. "We're literaly cowering behind out PCs. This morning I turned on my laptop and ate my breakfast behind it. Then I went to Long Corridor and hid behind a large desktop for 2 hours before being moved on by a cleaner. The rest of my day was spent playing Farmville and shivering in fear in the arts block PACR. Will they Gardai please capture these scum? They've treathened to bring back Comic Sans too!! Monsters!!"

allandanyways

LeixlipRed wrote: »

The Herald article will read something like this:

"Internet nerds today revealed that they are living in fear of their lives in Maynooth as gangs of ravenous youths have begun roaming the town in search of easy pickings. Confidential sources have revealed that said youths intend to decieve authorities and walk young, nubile females home from the local student union crack den and ravage them in poorly tended bushes off the main byways. The Herald can confirm that Garda are treating these claims as "serious" and are asking the internet nerds to "attend the local station to help them with ongoing enquiries". Our intrepid reporter, Darragh "forum snooper" Byrne interviewed one of the nerds today through the medium of private message (or PM in nerdspeak) and the nerd expressed his fright at the current vile situation in the town. "We're literaly cowering behind out PCs. This morning I turned on my laptop and ate my breakfast behind it. Then I went to Long Corridor and hid behind a large desktop for 2 hours before being moved on by a cleaner. The rest of my day was spent playing Farmville and shivering in fear in the arts block PACR. Will they Gardai please capture these scum? They've treathened to bring back Comic Sans too!! Monsters!!"

A later headline will read "Large final year student massacres all Farmville players in NUIM PACRs."

Seriously my internet still isn't connecting in college so had to use the library PCs today, 3 people farming, queue of 2 people. TAKE YOUR PLOWING ELSEWHERE!:mad:

terribletim

pisslips wrote: »

All I can say is that if you are attacked, even if you fight back or whatever the circumstances, you should report the information to the gardai as soon as possible with as much detail and LOCATION as possible.

Acne. Hair gel. Cologne. Stupid hat. Navy/white shell suit-socks tucked in. Mumbles.

Seen 'em?

Clare Bear

masherella88 wrote: »

anyone else get PM'd by a guy from the evening herald wanting to talk about maynooth and how dangerous it is?

Yeah I got one too. "Journalists" are getting very lazy these days, having to get their information from here :rolleyes:

Still think an email should be sent around to all the students though. Or is it a case of NUIM shoving all of this under the carpet in case the place gets a bad name?!

LeixlipRed

The Herald are reknowned for this sort of rubbish. They regularly print stories about the League of Ireland and the supposed "hooligan" (non-existant I might add) problem with message board posts taken verbatim from source. Shocking lack of integrity. But what do you expect?

bob bobbing

Self-righteous students......... do yourselves a favour and do something about these yobs around Maynooth.

You act all concerned but where is the student spirit!!

Online moaning ain't gonna make you any safer.

princess_calico

bob bobbing wrote: »

Self-righteous students......... do yourselves a favour and do something about these yobs around Maynooth.

You act all concerned but where is the student spirit!!

Online moaning ain't gonna make you any safer.

I seriously have to agree with bob bobbing!

You all give out about the SU, but what have you done? In case you forgot, the SU is run for students BY students. Tell us what you want us to do! Don't b*tch about it on an online forum. If you want to contact any of us, you can through the NUIMSU website, or else call into our offices. Myself (1st yr rep) Donnacha (post grad rep) and Eoin (communications & developments officer) are having a meeting today (even though it is our week off.....) so we can do something about this.
If you don't bring it to our attention, how are we meant to know that you want something done about it! There is only so much we can do! I'm working on my psychic, mind-reading skills but they're not working yet.

So before you start giving out about us, approach us and tell us what you want! We are all nice people, really!:)

rcaz

bob bobbing wrote: »

Self-righteous students......... do yourselves a favour and do something about these yobs around Maynooth.

You act all concerned but where is the student spirit!!

Online moaning ain't gonna make you any safer.

Edit; Nevermind

Tom Dunne

El Pr0n wrote: »

So what are your ideas?

Probably along the lines of

• lurk around Boards.ie to see who is having trouble
• contact a load of people, chances are some will bite, write it up with added spice (see LeixlipRed's post)
• when they don't bite, appear on thread to stir it up
• repeat

bob bobbing - your antics have not gone unnoticed.

LoLth

On one hand, at least bob bobbing is trying to talk to posters and not just lifting quotes from online fora and reprintign them as an "anonymous eye witness" , has happened before when P45.net started a fake story about irish backpackers going missing in Australia.

On the other, bob, please contribute to the community before trying to extract benefit. also, why do you not use your work address in the PM? @eircom.net doesnt inspire the greatest of confidence. Freelance? Invest in a domain name and a basic hosting plan, it adds an air of professionalism. I also think posting "self righteous students... get off your arse" (paraphrased) is possibly the wrong way to make a good impression on a forum populated by students only some of whom are actually self righteous I could easily say "lazy journalist. trawling an online forum isnt going to win you fame and respect among your peers. where's your journalistic spirit? go to maynooth and talk to the student body in person. Investigate and gather your sources."

What Princess calico says is right though. The SU are there to help. they are students, just like you but a bit freakier in their pseudo-political ambitions.... Debate on a forum is all well and good and can be very useful to compare opinions and formulate objectives etc but online is just that, online. it will have no effect in the real world (thats the space around your monitor) if you dont actually act on it. Please dont put down any organisations (SU, College etc) on any matters until you know for certain that your attempts to talk to them are being ignored.

r3nu4l

LoLth wrote: »

ahem... either 94/95 or 95/96 cant really remember....ahem.... and I'm not old! I'm just wiser than i look....honest....

I was an undergrad at that time in 'St Patrick's College Maynooth' as it was then, before it became Maynooth College and eventually NUI Maynooth

LoLth wrote: »

funnily enough it was never really an end of the night thing, it was usually about half way through before you got plastered. Myself and a few others used to gather near the entrance to the SU, introduce ourselves to security and then have a pint or two. once the lady was home safely you came back all happy that the job was done and got plastered and then went looking for a young lady to escort home....

Were you in one of the martial arts clubs? I remember a load of the lads from the clubs acted as 'bodyguards' walking girls home from the SU on bar-ex nights. Totally out of the goodness of their hearts of course, not because they wanted to get off with any of them...

So far as I remember a couple of girls had been raped by some scumbag and that's what prompted it all. Sad to hear all of this going on in Maynooth, the University is such a friendly place and the town used to be nice, haven't been back there in about 4 years.

Ostrom

LeixlipRed wrote: »

The Herald are reknowned for this sort of rubbish. They regularly print stories about the League of Ireland and the supposed "hooligan" (non-existant I might add) problem with message board posts taken verbatim from source. Shocking lack of integrity. But what do you expect?

Dont know if many noticed, I think it may have been deleted since.

One of the (supposed) red top hacks posted a re-reg 'thank you' in AH for the easy research sources. Better be careful unless we get a repeat O' Doherty

Check out Nick Davies hack watch on the guardian website

JBoyle4eva

Won't say who, but a male friend of mine was mugged last week on the very road I live on (Newtown Rd, the first right after Bond Bridge and it's on the way to Cluain Aiobhean and Rathcoffey village). Luckily, he stood in front of an approaching car and the mugger went off.

But I'm kinda worried to walk home at night, as I usually do walk alone if I've been out.

Ostrom

Could be time for some pikes and a sack of doorknobs

princess_calico

Today, Eoin (comm & dev officer), Donnacha (postgrad rep) and myself (1st yr rep) had a chat about the giving out on boards.ie...

We have drafted up an email that is going to get sent out to the student body next week about the attacks. For the information of anyone that is giving out about the SU not doing anything, I presume you didn't hear that the week after study week is devoted entirely to safety- mind, body and safe home.

There will be various different events running all week along the lines of those themes. If anyone had looked into it, they would have known that the SU is doing a lot of work focusing on the "Safe Home" campaign- rape alarms and torches for everyone!

I honestly urge anyone that has a problem to come and talk to us. We reeeeally are nice people and we are there for YOU as a student. We were voted to represent the student body and that is what we plan to do. Unlike the three sabbatical officers (president, vice president, comm & dev) the rest of us are all students still in the college. We have the same pressures that you do, with college, assignments, readings, and on top of that we also want to do our best to represent you.

If you go to the SU website (which is currently in the process of being renovated) you can find our contact details, or else, pop into the office. There is ALWAYS someone there. The sabbaticals are there all day, and one of the rest of us is usually in the exec office. We all have our own hours if you want to drop in for a chat or to talk about something more serious. Sometimes we are even there when we don't have to be!

So please, the next time you want to give out about us, or the work we are doing (or the work that we are not doing, that you think we should be doing! We are only human after all and might not have thought of it!) instead of giving out about us online, please tell us what we should be doing better...

Also, if you want to tell us that we're doing an ok job, that would also be appreciated!

Well that's my rant over.....:D:D:D:D:D

LoLth

though to be fair, if no-one posted online then they wouldnt know that others felt the same way or they might have thought "well, someone else will say something". at least by having it posted here it brings it inadvertantly (meh, second best is better than nothing) to your attention and gives you an opportunity to respond if you feel like it but yes, going to the SU directly should always be the first course of action... then come here and tell us what they said!