On The dole and going to las vegas

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Firefox10 wrote: »

Stick all your redundancy money on Red.....it will be a hell of a toboggan ride.:D

fair ****s to the OP... hope he wins a **** load and comes home, with all the pics to show us his dole in vegas holiday....:pac::pac::pac:

john-joe

Not the only one spending taxpayers money in vegas!:mad:

Knock yourself out......:rolleyes:

But by right anything you do win all of us Taxpayers own a share:pac::pac:;);)

j2u

j2u wrote: »

im going flying out on the 12th mate. it would be a funny coincidence if we bumped into each other

I'll be there when you're there!

If the holiday was paid for before you lost your job then I don't see why you shouldn't go? makes no sense. It's not like you'll get any money back - unless of course you had super duper travel insurance!

marko91

im on the dole and last week i have bought myself a sexy 37" HDTV for 800 euro....thanks for the tele lads:cool:

john-joe

marko91 wrote: »

im on the dole and last week i have bought myself a sexy 37" HDTV for 800 euro....thanks for the tele lads:cool:

How sexy is it.. on a scale of 1-10? :rolleyes:

pics please :-p

hopalong85

Rose Round Visitor wrote: »

Nah, lots go on holidays while on social. I was away twice or 3 times last year :P Thing is you can only go for 12 days...

you f$cking serious? hope you're trolling with a post like that. sh$t.

rossie1977

ScumLord wrote: »

Vegas is expensive, it's not really a budget destination. You won't be able to do fup all when you get there unless you've got a fair chunk of money to spend.

nah, san francisco, miami, london paris and new york (and dublin:rolleyes:) are expensive, box rooms going for $200 a night where in vegas you can now get 700sq feet of suite for half that given that the bottom has fallen out of the convention market

don't want to pay $15 for cocktails with britney, paris and her mates at pure or rain nightclubs then walk across the street to o'sheas where beer is $1, buffets at gold coast and orleans are like $7-8 and as good quality as ones you pay $20 for, $6 four course prime rib dinner downtown at california hotel, pay $40 for that in bellagio, it all depends on where you go, don't forget the multitude of free stuff on the strip like bellagio fountains, treasure island show, mirage volcano, wynn lake of dreams, flamingo wildlife habitat, oh and the best show in vegas cost like $10 Macking at harrahs

brendansmith

jumpguy wrote: »

Trolling much?

RRRRRRRRR I HATE THE WAY THE OP IS TROLLING!!!

THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT THOUGH!!!!

hopalong85

Rose Round Visitor wrote: »

You should be asking yourself that question...



You begrudged the OP his holiday, which he is very much entitled to.




It's somewhere in the next sentence:

These jokers are going to Vegas on the dole



So it's only the OP then? Is it ok to go elsewhere? Do we need your permission?



Good, you realise your mistakes, that's fair enough.



When or where did the OP say he wasn't looking for a job? Everyone is entitled to a holiday, you don't have to look for a job every single day 24/7. Holiday was pre booked, get over it.



That's the general consensus these days, if anyone on the dole has enough money to spend on anything other than Tescos own brand food and rent, they are getting too much. Is 204 too much for anyone? Nope...

You see, you seem to have a problem with those that can spend wisely. I do not drink, I do not smoke, I do not spend money on anything but what I need. This allows me to save for more important things, like insurance. I know people on social that go out every weekend and piss their money up against the wall... I don't. Yet you still have a problem with it. We are entitled to live also, we paid our dues, so get over it.

Oh and it's not your money, it's fcuking my money... simple as.

Yes 204 euro is too much. Far, far, far too much. This country can't afford to sustain such ridiculously high welfare payments. Put simply it will bankrupt us. It is not sustainable. Do you understand this?

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare. Social welfare should be about providing people with enough money to sustain themselves until they find employment. It is not about funding holidays. It is not about funding unnecessary perks. I can't believe people with your opinions even exist. The welfare state needs to die. Your posts on this thread have honestly sickened me.

Bandit12

j2u wrote: »

Hi im on the dole and im going to las vegas in a few weeks.i had booked it before i got layed off from work. Just wondering are there many others on the dole going to vegas?
Thanks

You deserve it.

RxQueen

hopalong85 wrote: »

Yes 204 euro is too much. Far, far, far too much. This country can't afford to sustain such ridiculously high welfare payments. Put simply it will bankrupt us. It is not sustainable. Do you understand this?

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare. Social welfare should be about providing people with enough money to sustain themselves until they find employment. It is not about funding holidays. It is not about funding unnecessary perks. I can't believe people with your opinions even exist. The welfare state needs to die. Your posts on this thread have honestly sickened me.

try living off 204 euro (or whatever it was back in the day ) with 3 kids and no other source of income. its ****ing hard, so when you do that come back and say thats its to much
my father was on the dole for a good while back when i was younger , and they were days that we went without hardly any food cause we simply couldnt afford it..

Now im on the dole part time and soon to be full time cause im being let go from my job, just cause you're on the dole doesnt mean that you have to stop living and cant go out and buy things are a deemed fun and that you simply just have to buy the basic's with the money..

Jesus some people think everyone in the dole is screwing the system.. we fupping aint

enjoy your holiday OP , and buy me a lollypop pwease!

furiousox

hopalong85 wrote: »

Yes 204 euro is too much. Far, far, far too much. This country can't afford to sustain such ridiculously high welfare payments. Put simply it will bankrupt us. It is not sustainable. Do you understand this?

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare. Social welfare should be about providing people with enough money to sustain themselves until they find employment. It is not about funding holidays. It is not about funding unnecessary perks. I can't believe people with your opinions even exist. The welfare state needs to die. Your posts on this thread have honestly sickened me.

1) Try living off 204 per week and see how far you get

2) He's already said several times that he paid for the trip with his redundancy payment not his welfare money

Dragan

hopalong85 wrote: »

Yes 204 euro is too much. Far, far, far too much. This country can't afford to sustain such ridiculously high welfare payments. Put simply it will bankrupt us. It is not sustainable. Do you understand this?

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare. Social welfare should be about providing people with enough money to sustain themselves until they find employment. It is not about funding holidays. It is not about funding unnecessary perks. I can't believe people with your opinions even exist. The welfare state needs to die. Your posts on this thread have honestly sickened me.

Out of interest, if you were to find yourself on the dole, how much of YOUR expenses would be covered by 204eur a week.

I am rather curious i must say.

As far as i was aware, any increases that occur in the dole, tend to happen in line with cost of living, inflation....things like that so i can only assume that any decrease in the dole will need to happen in line with a returning to sense with regard the cost and taxing of goods and services.

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare.

Jaysoose

You have to try the $20 trick when you are checking in to your hotel, sandwich a folded 20 in between your id and booking sheet and ask if there are any Complimentary upgrades available, if your lucky they receptionist will sort you out with a better room for FREE and then they will pocket the 20.

Worked for me and the missus in Planet hollywood two weeks ago we got a kickass room overlooking the bellagio fountains.

Go to Osheas for gambling and but dont forget to tip your waitresses in all casinos as they will just avoid you and you will be wiating ages for drinks, and even if your tipping a dollar every drink it still works out cheeeep. Trick a yank fella called 'Chet' told me was to order your Vodka/whiskey/gin with the mixer 'Back' this way they cant be scabby with the booze.

Friggin love vegas and there are worse things to do than walk up and down the strip with a giant novelty American football full of vodka and red bull at 4 in the morning.

Mossy Monk

Enjoy the trip OP.

hopalong85 wrote: »

Yes 204 euro is too much. Far, far, far too much. This country can't afford to sustain such ridiculously high welfare payments. Put simply it will bankrupt us. It is not sustainable. Do you understand this?

:rolleyes:

mickdw

Dragan wrote: »

Out of interest, if you were to find yourself on the dole, how much of YOUR expenses would be covered by 204eur a week.

I am rather curious i must say.

In my particular case, 204 euro wouldnt nearly do. However I would never get into the situation of having these high costs without having enough cash to survive for a long period without money coming in. I wouldnt expect to get money for nothing. Being self employed and down to about 50% of what I used to earn in the good times, I feel the pinch yet I can handle my finances. I will survive for about 3 years if all money stopped today. Further to that, I could consider a less expensive car & cut down on any other non essential outlay. I certainly am not considering a trip to vegas as this to me would be deemed reckless in the current economic climate. The OP is living on welfare and from my reading of it, he is not even sure of redundancy money coming through.
He has saved up ( fair enough ) and also covered his bills for this month but would it not be better to keep the 1500 he is going to blow in vegas for the future as things arent going to get any better for a while possibly.
The OP will possibly be looking for extra benefits off the state (as many on the dole do) in the coming months claiming he cannot afford home heating oil etc and the welfare officer will write out a cheque for the oil having pity on him not knowing he spent 1500 in vegas while on the dole.

chachabinx

Rosco1982 wrote: »

I'm going to Vegas soon too.

But I'm not sponging off the state.

The cheak of you he just said he lost his job & there is all walks of life on the dole now...
Nobody is safe & as he was working & paying PRSI I think he/she's intitled to it!

Idbatterim

enjoy vegas OP! the weather, women and nightlife are nearly on par with here! by the way, vegas cost wise caters for all budgets!

bill_ashmount

ScumLord wrote: »

I've tried my level best to avoid tipping but they do talk to each other and your only hope is if there's big tippers at your table. Sit at a full table with other Americans and she'll always come to the table. Avoid other Europeans because apparently we have a reputation for being bad tippers wherever they got that idea.

The main problem is the minimum bet at a table is $5. That adds up pretty quick but if you sit at the bar playing the video poker you can get cheap drink. Stick $10 in the poker machine at the bar (there's video poker at every seat at the bar) stick another $10 in the tip jar and all your drinks are free. Sitting at a table means you have to wait for the drinks lady to come round. If your at the bar you can shout your drink. I also wasn't above sweet talking the barman to avoid paying money. Vegas was the only place in America where they're wise to the Irish charm.

Wow, one of the cheapist attitudes I've ever seen. Hope I never meet someone like you.

Idbatterim

you can play 1/2 nl holdem and get free drink all night! or buy into a $30 dollar tournament and do the same!

j2u

mickdw wrote: »

In my particular case, 204 euro wouldnt nearly do. However I would never get into the situation of having these high costs without having enough cash to survive for a long period without money coming in. I wouldnt expect to get money for nothing. Being self employed and down to about 50% of what I used to earn in the good times, I feel the pinch yet I can handle my finances. I will survive for about 3 years if all money stopped today. Further to that, I could consider a less expensive car & cut down on any other non essential outlay. I certainly am not considering a trip to vegas as this to me would be deemed reckless in the current economic climate. The OP is living on welfare and from my reading of it, he is not even sure of redundancy money coming through.
He has saved up ( fair enough ) and also covered his bills for this month but would it not be better to keep the 1500 he is going to blow in vegas for the future as things arent going to get any better for a while possibly.
The OP will possibly be looking for extra benefits off the state (as many on the dole do) in the coming months claiming he cannot afford home heating oil etc and the welfare officer will write out a cheque for the oil having pity on him not knowing he spent 1500 in vegas while on the dole.

Right let me just clear the air on my finances. about 3 years ago i got a €11,000 loan to buy a 03 golf, a few months ago i sold that for €3000 euro and have now refinance my loan still oweing €4600. Before i lost the job i was told that i was had to take a huge pay cut, the running costs of getting to work and insurance combined i was earning about €400 more than the dole each month, despite the fact that i was earning the least in the company i was taking the biggest cut and at the same time my boss was spending €40,000 to €50,000 building a new office, we were 2 days in the new office when the company was being downsized.Anyways after i took he cut i tried to cut my costs by getting a 97 ford fiesta for €450.

My father is on disability due to bad health and my mother worked as a childminder until she lost her job and she has crippling arthritus but dont worry she isnt entitled anything from your taxes. The money my father gets towards the mortage from disability has been cut three times already. If the dole is reduced by much i wont be able to afford the car loan and give to the mortgage so thats another bad debt for the banks. So car insurance, €89 ,mortgage €200, Car loan €160,phone credit €20 ,Internet €40 ( Phone + internet kinda needed to look for jobs an cheaper this way than to go to internet cafe with your tax money)
So assuming petrol is completely free thats already €509. That leaves me with €307 a month after bills and thats only if texaco get real generous and really really like me and give petrol for FREE!!!.

So i can go to vegas and come back broke or not go and be the wealty man i am right now. Every month i get €307 and change it to cents and have big bath full of money

patsyd43

I've being on the dole 2 years now. I went to Thailand last October and spent 2 weeks in Portugal this summer.

Nothing wrong with a treat. Just because your not working dont mean you dont deserve a holiday.

Dudess

Sage'sMama wrote: »

Also stayed away from becoming a middle class wanna-be during the boom years.

I take it "middle-class" to you simply means a person who is flash with the cash?

hopalong85

emo!! wrote: »

try living off 204 euro (or whatever it was back in the day ) with 3 kids and no other source of income. its ****ing hard, so when you do that come back and say thats its to much
my father was on the dole for a good while back when i was younger , and they were days that we went without hardly any food cause we simply couldnt afford it..

Now im on the dole part time and soon to be full time cause im being let go from my job, just cause you're on the dole doesnt mean that you have to stop living and cant go out and buy things are a deemed fun and that you simply just have to buy the basic's with the money..

Jesus some people think everyone in the dole is screwing the system.. we fupping aint

enjoy your holiday OP , and buy me a lollypop pwease!

People with three kids and no income get additional support on top of the basic amount of 204 do they not? I don't think everyone on the dole is screwing the system. Not at all. I just don't believe that the dole should be about buying fun things etc. It's meant to be enough to survive.

hopalong85

furiousox wrote: »

1) Try living off 204 per week and see how far you get

2) He's already said several times that he paid for the trip with his redundancy payment not his welfare money

It's possible to live off 204 per week. Of course it is. I'm aware that the op paid for his holiday with redundancy money and I don't begrudge him that. My post was aimed at Iamxavier who seems to be of the opinion that it's fine to use dole money to go on holidays. I disagree with that sentiment.

OutlawPete

hopalong85 wrote: »

I just don't believe that the dole should be about buying fun things etc. It's meant to be enough to survive.

Let's not forget that the 'dole' amount is also the same amount for 'Disabilty Benifit' and 'The Pension' ..

Do you think these people should be allowed to 'buy fun things'?

hopalong85

Dragan wrote: »

Out of interest, if you were to find yourself on the dole, how much of YOUR expenses would be covered by 204eur a week.

I am rather curious i must say.

As far as i was aware, any increases that occur in the dole, tend to happen in line with cost of living, inflation....things like that so i can only assume that any decrease in the dole will need to happen in line with a returning to sense with regard the cost and taxing of goods and services.

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare.

I'm currently a student living on less than 204 euro per week so I'd be fine I imagine. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.

The increases in the dole in this country were kind of fuelled by Fianna Fail and their desire to buy votes. Obviously inflation is a factor, and welfare should rise accordingly. But 204 euro is too much. In the UK I believe basic dole payments are 60 pound per week approximately. If people can survive on this in the UK then please don't try to tell me that 204 euro is necessary for survival in Ireland.

Social welfare is about giving a person enough money to live until they find employment. That's it. That is what social welfare is supposed to be for. 204 euro is more than is necessary to achieve that task.

I think you misunderstand the concept of social welfare.

drkpower

patsyd43 wrote: »

I've being on the dole 2 years now. I went to Thailand last October and spent 2 weeks in Portugal this summer.

Nothing wrong with a treat. Just because your not working dont mean you dont deserve a holiday.

Its not about "deserving" anything. Social Welfare/Dole is not/should not be a lifestyle choice; it is a way of helping those who are temporarily out of work. Aside from people who cannot work (due to disability etc), it should not be paid after a certain fixed period of time (lets say 1-2 years). After that, it should be doscontinued or paid in return for certain work of a civic nature. That way, people are able to live but the State gets something in return. If the person doesnt want to do that work, then they should get nothing.

During the periosd of unemployment, while people can do with the money as they please, Vegas, Thailand, dancing girls, whatever. I certainly would have thought that spending a wedge on it on a relatively expensive holiday at thats tage of one's life was a little irresponsible, but hey, we all do irresponsible things all the time and sure that's what Vegas is for.

hopalong85

Nico22 wrote: »

Let's not forget that the 'dole' amount is also the same amount for 'Disabilty Benifit' and 'The Pension' ..

Do you think these people should be allowed to 'buy fun things'?

The amount is the same but the circumstances are different. People with disabilities that prevent them from working are of course entitled to enough money for fun things. People on a pension who have worked their entire lives are of course entitled to the same. People on the dole should be given enough to survive on until they find employment. The circumstances are different and I believe this should be reflected in the amount of money they receive from the State. Unfortunately it is not.

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marko91 wrote: »

im on the dole and last week i have bought myself a sexy 37" HDTV for 800 euro....thanks for the tele lads:cool:

Less of the trolling and accusations of trolling, please. If anyone has a problem with any of the posts, report them rather than accuse the poster of trolling in-thread.