Liverpool V Manchester United Sunday 26th oct 2009 2.00pm (Mod note - #967)

Vampireskiss

VERSUS



I hope I have not started this too early.As a united fan we will never have a better chance to get revenge for last season as liverpool are having a very poor run. Saying that I have seen it many times in the past when a big team is playing bad and plays one of their main rivals they pull out a performance from no where, however if Gerard and Torres are out I think united will win 2-0

Johner

Liverpool will win. Playing terrible at the moment so they are but I just have a feeling they will win.

Headshot

jebus

Vampireskiss I would have never guessed you were a utd fan :pac:

Nalz

Don't Manchester United have a game to play in Russia first??

ShamoBuc

Pool win a banker, rabbit from the hat time!!

Handsome Bob

Crossing everything in the hope that Gerrard, Torres and Johnson will be fit.

Dub13

Locked for at least 24 hours,Utd still have a game before this one.

This is not the Liverpool or Utd forum.

Dub13

Thanx 4 The Fish

Thread reopened now. Play nice and please remember a yellow card means a ban.

Headshot

Im worried because this is a must win for liverpool imo

Nalz

Headshot wrote: »

Im worried because this is a must win for liverpool imo

+1....although United will be seeking some revenge. If any of those things come into it

Expecting

VDS
Evra
Rio
VIdic
OShea

Fletcher
Giggs
Carrick/Anderson
Valencia

Rooney
Berbatov

The Muppet

May the best team win.:)

Mr Alan

a lot depends here to me what the story is with Gerrard, Rooney & Torres.

CHD

G'wan the draw

prendy

Mr Alan wrote: »

a lot depends here to me what the story is with Gerrard, Rooney & Torres.

i think more important is our defence? can we finally get back to keeping clean sheets, for me this has been the biggest change from last year.

Mr Alan

true enough.

Spud83

Mr Alan wrote: »

a lot depends here to me what the story is with Gerrard, Rooney & Torres.

Gerrard and Torres, but why sure looked what happened last season.

Basicaly regardless of who is available this game can go either way. United going into with better form and confidence, Liverpool going in on the back of a bad run of games and possibly low on confidence.

Neither means much, the thing that gives me a bit of confidence is that I think Fergie will really really really want to win on Saturday and heap the pressure on Liverpool, and personally Benitez. Which hopefully means he goes 4-4-2 and trys to win the game rather than 4-5-1 and try draw or nick a win.

Liverpool may be more afraid of losing than trying to win.

FutureGuy

I can see United coming from behind to win 2-1. Berbatov winner.

Fromvert

FutureGuy wrote: »

I can see United coming from behind to win 2-1. Berbatov winner.

There we have it lads, lump on, this guy knows the score. He's from the future.

kida

if Utd score early pools heads will drop, they are very low on confidence.

Paleface

Has draw written all over it. Liverpool cannot afford to lose again.

Dancor

Hopefully Owen plays.................................And scores the winner

Dublin_Gunner

Dancor wrote: »

Hopefully Owen plays.................................And scores the winner

Yep, an Own Goal would do nicely


United will want revenge, Liverpool just want a bloomin' win.

Defo a draw.

I reckon 4-4.

United are the last of the big 4 yet to draw 4-4 with Liverpool this year.

_blank_

I think a draw is most likely.

Liverpool won't want to lose, and United don't need to win.

Although, Vidic looked a bit dodge last night, so Torres, if he can get the right service, could terrorise him.

That service depends on Gerrard. If Gerrard plays, he can't do what he's been doing all season, and that's dropping deep into the midfield to win posession, this isolates Torres.

If there is to be a decisive moment this match will be decided by a dodgy decision somewhere. A crazy red-card, a 50/50 penalty, something like that.

FutureGuy

Fromvert wrote: »

There we have it lads, lump on, this guy knows the score. He's from the future.

Ah, yeah Fromvert, joke all you like, but we'll see who's laughing come Sunday*

*Almost certainly you!

kida

Des wrote: »

If there is to be a decisive moment this match will be decided by a dodgy decision somewhere. A crazy red-card, a 50/50 penalty, something like that.

please God no

Glico Man

kida wrote: »

please God no

Or another balloon incident.

I've heard the beach set has sold out, apparently United fans have been buying them up.

But I'm hoping for a 'pool win, Lucas to get the winner in the 91st minute.

Dave!

Can't wait

I'd certainly have United as favourites, but form can go out the window in these kinda games, so I'm not as confident as others.

I would think our formation would be something like......

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VDS

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O'Shea----Rio----Vida

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Evra (Fabio if Pat is injured)

---

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Fletcher

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Anderson

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Valencia

---

Giggs

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Berbatov

---

---

Rooney

---

Certainly Giggs and Fletcher should start if available.

Owen to come on at 65 minutes and score to make it 0-6

Skud

this is liverpools year...

cmon utd

Unearthly

I'm usually one of the biggest optimists for Man Utd when it comes to big games, but I just have that feeling that the Liverpool players will game raise and win this match.

Mr_Roger_Bongos

Des wrote: »

Although, Vidic looked a bit dodge last night, so Torres, if he can get the right service, could terrorise him.

I'm still baffled as to why Vidic and not Ferdinand marked him last year. Ferdinand was the faster of the two by miles, vidic is better in the air, but with Torres' speed, why didn't Ferdinand mark him?

Im not saying Ferdinand's a better defender, just faster.

Paul Tergat

Mr_Roger_Bongos wrote: »

I'm still baffled as to why Vidic and not Ferdinand marked him last year. Ferdinand was the faster of the two by miles, vidic is better in the air, but with Torres' speed, why didn't Ferdinand mark him?

Im not saying Ferdinand's a better defender, just faster.

well in fairness when you have 2 centre backs they will tend to 'mark' a player when theyre on their own side of the defence. If say Rio was playing as the right sided centre half which he tends to do then if Torres peels off or plays mostly on the right side of their attack then Rio leaves him go and lets his other centre back deal with him. If Rio was to always mark him then he would be getting dragged out of position too much.

its obviously different say from goal kicks, where vida will tend to move into a position where he can attack the ball and rio will sweep up behind him.

Theresalwaysone

Mr_Roger_Bongos wrote: »

I'm still baffled as to why Vidic and not Ferdinand marked him last year. Ferdinand was the faster of the two by miles, vidic is better in the air, but with Torres' speed, why didn't Ferdinand mark him?

Im not saying Ferdinand's a better defender, just faster.

Not having Rio as the "more free" centre half will unbalance the team I'd imagine. That and the quality of ball coming from the back four would be lowered.

Smegball

Really nervous about this one, don't have a clue how it will go tbh.

Can see a Pool win unfortunately.

Theresalwaysone

The only thing that Liverpool have going for them for this match is home advantage, everything else points to a likely United win if not a draw.

dfx-

aaronh007 wrote: »

Or another balloon incident.

I've heard the beach set has sold out, apparently United fans have been buying them up.

Handsome Bob

I'm strangely confident about this game as a Liverpool fan, maybe it's just because I can't bare to fathom that we'll be 10 points behind Man U come 6pm on Sunday.

miralize

United (decent enough form) > Liverpool (worst form since 1987)

No brainer really.

CoachBoone

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

The only thing that Liverpool have going for them for this match is home advantage, everything else points to a likely United win if not a draw.

miralize wrote: »

United (decent enough form) > Liverpool (worst form since 1987)

No brainer really.

Agree.

Liverpool have a very poor recent run of results, players just back from injury, increased pressure on the manager, senior players and team as a whole.

United have, a good run of form, a clean bill of health and no real pressure only that of pride and of a point to prove after last year.

Home advantage for Liverpool is massive though. As it is for any team.

Anyone fans thinking a Liverpool win is likely are going with their hearts and not their heads.

Holsten

Can't believe a good few people are tipping Liverpool for the win.... mental.

They are in shambles at the back and with set pieces at the moment, 1-3 to United.

With at least two goals from free kicks/corners.

Mars Bar

Holsten wrote: »

Can't believe a good few people are tipping Liverpool for the win.... mental.

They are in shambles at the back and with set pieces at the moment, 1-3 to United.

With at least two goals from free kicks/corners.

And Fletcher being the one who rises above them all to head them in!

messrs

United are going to want to win, Fergie will want 3 points and wont settle for draw, plus will want revenge for 4 - 1 last season.
Im going for 2 - 1 Utd with Owen scoring the winning goal
C'mon Utd!!

Mental Mickey

2-0 to United -at least. . We're just s***e at the moment.

Horsefumbler

Pool to win if xabi alonso is playing.

Bobalicious93

Horsefumbler wrote: »

Pool to win if xabi alonso is playing.

Looks like we have it in the bag then...

All things going to plan, I'd expect to see this team:

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VDS(Thank god)

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--JOS----Vida----Rio

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Evra---
--Val----Fletch---Ando--Sir Ryan-

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Wazza---Berba

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2-1 win. Owen to repeat his cameo v City.

Please.

Bandit12

2-0 home win and Liverpool to go on a charge for the title.

joe123

Whats the latest on Gerrard,Torres,Riera and Glen Johnson?

Mitch Connor

Not looking forward to this game.

Liverpool are in poor form, but I haven't been massively impressed with United laterly either though - Bolton and Sunderland performances were poor and the CSKA game was a nothing performance.

Rooney and Fletcher could be out, which would be massive blows to United.

I do think United do have it in them to beat Liverpool, but Liverpool have it in them to beat United too, so this game could go either way.

Regardless, I can't see United going 442 in this game. No chance of it imo. will be 451.

Fully fit, I would say it would be the following:

...............VDS

O'Shea..Vidic..Rio..Evra
Fletcher..Carrick..Anderson
Valencia..............Giggs
.............Rooney

depending on injuries though, that can change obviously.

Giggs dropping into a more central position (if Fletcher is out) with maybe Rooney out wide and Berbs through the middle. If ROoney is out could see the same forweard line that we saw yesterday - Valanica, Nani and Berbatov.

Vampireskiss

Mitch Connor wrote: »

the CSKA game was a nothing performance.

How can you say that, its just so untrue.Did you even watch the game. I thought united were very good last night. I mean we are talking about the uefa cup champions in spartak after all and united were in control for most of the match

Mitch Connor

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How can you say that, its just so untrue.Did you even watch the game. I thought united were very good last night. I mean we are talking about the uefa cup champions in spartak after all and they were in control for most of the match

we didn't do anything. We nullified them, which was good. but we still looked a bit suspect defensively (both Vidic and Rio are well short of form imo) but going forward we did precious little for most of the game imo. A very dull performance. Professional and mature, as Fergie would say, but it was a dull performance.

Mikeyt086

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How can you say that, its just so untrue.Did you even watch the game. I thought united were very good last night. I mean we are talking about the uefa cup champions in spartak after all and united were in control for most of the match

No we are not.

Shaktar Donetsk (Ukraine) are the UEFA Cup Champions.
CSKA Mowcow are the team United beat last night.
Spartak Moscow have nothing to do with anything...

The Muppet

Is Fletcher out?

I think we'll play 4 5 1. with Scholes, Fletcher, Anderson ,Valencia and giggs the preferred choice in midfield.