Rangers player Maurice Edu racially abused by his own fans [mod warning post #23]

bobbysands81

Looks like it might only have been a single fan but yet another embarrassment for the club.

Last night Maurice Edu posted the following on his twitter account:

"Not sure what hurt more: result last nite or being racially abused by couple of r own fans as I'm getting in my car..."

I see RFC have come out and rightly condemned this but surely this allows a heap more scorn to pour forward onto this club?

Eirebear

Its disgusting, and Rangers, the RST and other fans organisations have immediately come out and condemned it.

But its one or two people, not a large group, and if they are caught then they should be dealt with appropriately. It could have happened anywhere in this fine city.

What else can the club, or indeed its fans, do about it?

Neil3030

Eirebear wrote: »

Its disgusting, and Rangers, the RST and other fans organisations have immediately come out and condemned it.

But its one or two people, not a large group, and if they are caught then they should be dealt with appropriately. It could have happened anywhere in this fine city.

What else can the club, or indeed its fans, do about it?

Spot on.

There are no stupid clubs, only stupid people.

Mr Alan

Bobbysands continues his record of only ever contributing to this forum when its to do with negative stories about Rangers.

total non story, one or two fans.

Savman

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Looks like it might only have been a single fan but yet another embarrassment for the club.

Last night Maurice Edu posted the following on his twitter account:

"Not sure what hurt more: result last nite or being racially abused by couple of r own fans as I'm getting in my car..."

I see RFC have come out and rightly condemned this but surely this allows a heap more scorn to pour forward onto this club?

Ironic usernames ftw.

bobbysands81

Mr Alan wrote: »

Bobbysands continues his record of only ever contributing to this forum when its to do with negative stories about Rangers.

total non story, one or two fans.

Racism is a non-story??? Fair enough so.

I am regularly critical of Celtic and its fans.

PauloMN

While it's absolutely repulsive for anyone to be abused like that, any player who decides to play for Rangers FC knows the score with some of the fan base. A black American footballer and Rangers... c'mon, it was only a matter of time.

flahavaj

Poster called "Bobby Sands" in anti-Rangers thread shocker. Imagine that.

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

While it's absolutely repulsive for anyone to be abused like that, any player who decides to play for Rangers FC knows the score with some of the fan base. A black American footballer and Rangers... c'mon, it was only a matter of time.

Ah now Paul come on.

Edu has been taken brilliantly by the Rangers support and your comments are well out of order.
What Edu recieved last night was disgusting, but it was "a couple of people".

Rangers have never had an issue with racism towards their own black players, or towards others.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

PauloMN wrote: »

While it's absolutely repulsive for anyone to be abused like that, any player who decides to play for Rangers FC knows the score with some of the fan base. A black American footballer and Rangers... c'mon, it was only a matter of time.

Oh Paul you really are at it now it's not our club who has a history of abusing black players and while it was repulsive the guy himself has said it was a couple of guys.
Yes they are scum and I hope they are caught but trying to play the big bad Rangers card.
thought better of you

SantryRed

Man. What the f**k is up with you only coming on here to talk anti-Rangers. Get a F**king life.

Seriously, I never see you contribute to any other thread. Maybe in the Celtic one the odd time.

PauloMN

Eirebear wrote: »

Rangers have never had an issue with racism towards their own black players, or towards others.

Just the Irish, right? But sure that's not really racism... that's just banter.

Sorry EB, as soon as I heard he signed I knew it would just be a matter of time. It's awful abuse and should be stamped out, but there's no point in him being shocked and surprised at it given some of the fanbase.

premierstone

Mr Alan wrote: »

Bobbysands continues his record of only ever contributing to this forum when its to do with negative stories about Rangers.

total non story, one or two fans.

If its a total non story to you then why post here, ignore it and move on carry on your Rafagate :rolleyes: (underachieving one time big club lose! wow what a story)


Back on Topic, yes abviously disgusting behaviour but in fairness what can the club do about this type of moronic behaviour??

bobbysands81

premierstone wrote: »

Back on Topic, yes abviously disgusting behaviour but in fairness what can the club do about this type of moronic behaviour??

At least they moved quickly and swiftly in condemning this behaviour.

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

Just the Irish, right? But sure that's not really racism... that's just banter.

Sorry EB, as soon as I heard he signed I knew it would just be a matter of time. It's awful abuse and should be stamped out, but there's no point in him being shocked and surprised at it given some of the fanbase.

What, is this based on the abuse that Bougherra, Wallace, Beasley etc have recieved over the years?
To be fair, Mark Walter did get Bananas thrown at him...no...wait that was at Parkhead.

We know the issues the Rangers support have, theyre well known. Lets try and not make up some more just for the hell of it eh?

PauloMN

Eirebear wrote: »

What, is this based on the abuse that Bougherra, Wallace, Beasley etc have recieved over the years?
To be fair, Mark Walter did get Bananas thrown at him...no...wait that was at Parkhead.

We know the issues the Rangers support have, theyre well known. Lets try and not make up some more just for the hell of it eh?

That's cool. Just giving my thoughts on it, that's all.

Coillte_Bhoy

Rangers fans in racist row.. Man walks on moon, Titanic sinks etc etc etc

Bobalicious93

*Veers away from thread*

shamblertine

I love when stories like this come out about rangers supporters and you always have apologists coming out with the "ah but sure its only a few supporters who did it" line. Makes me laugh every time.

stovelid

Broxi_Bear_Eire

shamblertine wrote: »

I love when stories like this come out about rangers supporters and you always have apologists coming out with the "ah but sure its only a few supporters who did it" line. Makes me laugh every time.

The problem with your point is that Edu himself said it was only a couple of people I won't call them fans I suppose every fan of your club whoever they may be is whiter than white. As has been stated earlier we know there is a problem element amongst our support but please spare me from the self righteous guff

Chucky the tree

Eirebear wrote: »

Its disgusting, and Rangers, the RST and other fans organisations have immediately come out and condemned it.

But its one or two people, not a large group, and if they are caught then they should be dealt with appropriately. It could have happened anywhere in this fine city.

What else can the club, or indeed its fans, do about it?

I honestly can't think of any other example where a black player was racial abused by even 1 or 2 of his own fans in Britain. Can you? To me it seems that for some bizarre reason Rangers seems to have a continuous element of "one or two" stupid fans who do this kind of thing but no other club in Britain does.

therecklessone

Consider this fair warning: if anyone even looks funny at another poster from now on I will be coming down hard on them.

Any breach of charter will result in a ban.

shamblertine

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

The problem with your point is that Edu himself said it was only a couple of people I won't call them fans I suppose every fan of your club whoever they may be is whiter than white. As has been stated earlier we know there is a problem element amongst our support but please spare me from the self righteous guff

my point is that all these incidents involving rangers supporters are apparently just 1 or 2 bad eggs, but these bad eggs are becoming quite an army at this stage

Broxi_Bear_Eire

shamblertine wrote: »

my point is that all these incidents involving rangers supporters are apparently just 1 or 2 bad eggs, but these bad eggs are becoming quite an army at this stage

And my point still stands Edu said himself that it was a couple of people and again can you say every "Fan" of your club is whiter than white

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I honestly can't think of any other example where a black player was racial abused by even 1 or 2 of his own fans in Britain. Can you? To me it seems that for some bizarre reason Rangers seems to have a continuous element of "one or two" stupid fans who do this kind of thing but no other club in Britain does.

LOL thats hilarious so it's ok as long as it's players from opposing teams that are getting abused :rolleyes:

Rondolfus

Even though it was "only a few fans" I'm not at all surprised. There is quite a large contingent of Rangers fans who openly support hardcore right wing groups. Remember it was " a small section" of Rangers fans that gave the nazi salute during a champions league visit to Israel! This "small section" of fans also have strong links with the BNP. They routinely dished out racist abuse to Neil Lennon for being Irish and Nakamura for being Asian (Nakamura eats dogs etc etc etc). Not to mention their numerous anti-Irish songs, most notably "the famine" song.

However you can't speak out against Rangers behaviour without the PC brigade claiming the same exists at Celtic. The fact of the matter is racism is far more inherent at Rangers than it is at Celtic, which is why Uefa have only felt the need to clamp down on rangers. When Celtic play Rangers, you hear the "Fields of Athenry" (Hardly a racist song), being met with "The famine is over , go home" (clearly racst).

If you still are under any illusion as to which club is the most troublesome, just check out Champions league security operations. When Rangers played in Barcelona, the authorities more than doubled the amount of security that was used when Celtic visited the city. Need I mention Manchester?

Celtic are historically a "left wing" leaning club, intially founded by immigrants. Rangers is historically a right wing club thats hates the "immigrants" and everything else they deem as foreign.

I should reiterate, this is only a "small section of fans" but this "small section of fans" is significantly bigger than most other Clubs in Europe.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Rondolfus wrote: »

Even though it was "only a few fans" I'm not at all surprised. There is quite a large contingent of Rangers fans who openly support hardcore right wing groups. Remember it was " a small section" of Rangers fans that gave the nazi salute during a champions league visit to Israel! This "small section" of fans also have strong links with the BNP. They routinely dished out racist abuse to Neil Lennon for being Irish and Nakamura for being Asian (Nakamura eats dogs etc etc etc). Not to mention their numerous anti-Irish songs, most notably "the famine" song.

However you can't speak out against Rangers behaviour without the PC brigade claiming the same exists at Celtic. The fact of the matter is racism is far more inherent at Rangers than it is at Celtic, which is why Uefa have only felt the need to clamp down on rangers. When Celtic play Rangers, you hear the "Fields of Athenry" (Hardly a racist song), being met with "The famine is over , go home" (clearly racst).

If you still are under any illusion as to which club is the most troublesome, just check out Champions league security operations. When Rangers played in Barcelona, the authorities more than doubled the amount of security that was used when Celtic visited the city. Need I mention Manchester?

Celtic are historically a "left wing" leaning club, intially founded by immigrants. Rangers is historically a right wing club thats hates the "immigrants" and everything else they deem as foreign.

I should reiterate, this is only a "small section of fans" but this "small section of fans" is significantly bigger than most other Clubs in Europe.

Yes a left wing club with a war monger as chairman, The fields of Athenry ( a song I love ) but perceived wrongly in my opinion as a republican song, The famine song is a joke and was it only people who were RC's that died in the famine but I will say the people who that song was directed at were the plastic's who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map glad it's very rarely sung now.

Yes we are all racist bigots in the eyes of many whereas it's perfectly acceptable to sing songs about Novo dieing in his sleep with a bullet in his head from the IRA :rolleyes:

Kev_ps3

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes a left wing club with a war monger as chairman, The fields of Athenry ( a song I love ) but perceived wrongly in my opinion as a republican song, The famine song is a joke and was it only people who were RC's that died in the famine but I will say the people who that song was directed at were the plastic's who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map glad it's very rarely sung now.

Yes we are all racist bigots in the eyes of many whereas it's perfectly acceptable to sing songs about Novo dieing in his sleep with a bullet in his head from the IRA :rolleyes:

How is he a 'war monger'?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

How is he a 'war monger'?

FFs I suggest you read up some fact on your esteemed chairman

invincibleirish

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

How is he a 'war monger'?

Iraq War

Funnily enough one of the UK papers reports on it they mention some more abuse received by Edu:

Guardian wrote: »

Edu joined Rangers for £2.6m from Toronto FC in August 2008, and complained of racist abuse soon after signing, suggesting that Celtic fans had sent him offensive messages via Twitter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/21/maurice-edu-rangers-racist-abuse

Pesky racists everywhere.

Kev_ps3

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

FFs I suggest you read up some fact on your esteemed chairman

My esteemed chairman?? What you on about:rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

My esteemed chairman?? What you on about:rolleyes:

OK so your not a Celtic fan the points made are valid

bobbysands81

SantryRed wrote: »

Man. What the f**k is up with you only coming on here to talk anti-Rangers. Get a F**king life.

Seriously, I never see you contribute to any other thread. Maybe in the Celtic one the odd time.

So I should ignore racism from Rangers fans because I'm a Celtic fan?

That logic doesn't add up my friend.

bobbysands81

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes a left wing club with a war monger as chairman,

Yet more stuff we agree on.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Yet more stuff we agree on.

LOL I know we had better watch out or people will start to talk :eek:

_blank_

bobbysands81 wrote: »

So I should ignore racism from Rangers fans because I'm a Celtic fan?

That logic doesn't add up my friend.

Why have you not commented yet, on this?
:rolleyes:

invincibleirish wrote: »

Iraq War

Funnily enough one of the UK papers reports on it they mention some more abuse received by Edu:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/21/maurice-edu-rangers-racist-abuse

Pesky racists everywhere.

Brewster

This thread is a waste of space. Maurice Edu is absolutely loved by all Rangers fans, fans can't actually wait for the kid to return from injury to actually add a bit of style to their team. A mate of mine, a big Rangers fan, can't wait for the kid to return as his form towards end of last season was fantastic. Another player of african origin, Madrid Bougherra is also revered by the Rangers supporters. To claim Rangers fans are now racist against black players because some "druken low life ned of a so called supporter" abuses Mo Edu is just ridiculous. A complete non story. It amazes me when something like this is posted on an Internet forum, all of a sudden Rangers fans have links with X, Y and Z, you name it, if it is perceived to be negative Rangers fans will have an association with it!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

bobbysands81

Des wrote: »

Why have you not commented yet, on this?
:rolleyes:

First time I've seen it.

A very tenuous link to Celtic in that article but let's just *pretend* there's proof and it was a Celtic fan...

I don't care who makes the racist comments, Celtic fans or Rangers fans, both are scum if they make racist remarks.

I consistently slate Celtic fans who step out of line, racism should not be tolerated whatsoever in society, if Celtic fans are ever racist I will utterly slate them too. If for a second you'd think I'd stick up for a racist Celtic fan then that's just being delusional.

Keep posting stuff like this Des and I'll keep slating it.

bobbysands81

Brewster wrote: »

Maurice Edu is absolutely loved by all Rangers fans

Should you not change that to "nearly all"?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

bobbysands81 wrote: »

First time I've seen it.

A very tenuous link to Celtic in that article but let's just *pretend* there's proof and it was a Celtic fan...

I don't care who makes the racist comments, Celtic fans or Rangers fans, both are scum if they make racist remarks.

I consistently slate Celtic fans who step out of line, racism should not be tolerated whatsoever in society, if Celtic fans are ever racist I will utterly slate them too. If for a second you'd think I'd stick up for a racist Celtic fan then that's just being delusional.

Keep posting stuff like this Des and I'll keep slating it.

You really have to stop this Bobby it's could get messy all this agreeing with one another.

Brewster

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Should you not change that to "nearly all"?

No, because in a scenario like this, the one lowlife "fan" is irrelevant in my eyes.

Rondolfus

Funny how those defending Rangers can never give an explanation for their consistent terrible behaviour in Europe. Their behaviour which is in tune with their philosophy of "hating everything foreign." Remember the following article? Written by a Spanish journalist after a Rangers CL game. Really hits the nail on the head , and is true for most of their away visits. Regardless what you think of Celtic, you can't deny they have an impeccable away record when it comes to fan relations and they have even suceeded making friendships with clubs like St Pauli and Villarreal (my team). Rangers have isolated themsleves by their inherent xenophobia, in a similar way that Lazio have.

El Mund,Spain wrote:

PLEASE, DON'T EVER COME BACK AGAIN

Dear Rangers supporters- never come back to Barcelona again.And not because your players themselves aren’t a legitimate team. No, it’s not because of that- the Nou Camp frequently hosts teams who are lazy, boring, who only defend, who run and kick their opponents, and who shouldn’t be in elite competition. On top of this, Rangers merely defend, run at the opposition and play dirty. Their defenders are butchers, their midfielders, heavy-footed; and their strikers just stand there like the furniture.

But even apart from the footballing aspect, the best thing would be for Rangers never to return to Barcelona, because every time they do, they make a mess of the place. 35 years ago, you (the Rangers supporters) destroyed the seats at the Nou Camp. This time we have enjoyed no less than 48 hours of brawls, provocation, rackets, fights and common drunk women throughout the whole city, which you have fouled however you pleased.

Stay at home and vomit in your own living-room, urinate in your sitting-room corners, fight with your neighbours, the Celtic supporters (who deserve a prize just for putting up with you) and foul the streets of Glasgow instead. Don’t come back here again, because it is not a laughing matter. And, by extension, don’t play in the Champions’ League either. You are not at that level neither in a sporting nor human sense.

There are noisy groups of supporters who, although they drink vast amounts of beer, make friends at the same time. But you? Not you, because everywhere you go, you turn into a rubbish tip. You are undesirables. And so are those who fraudulently sell, or “rent out” their tickets. These people screw Barca over, because they trade their season tickets illegally. And in doing this they cause massive annoyance for other members of the club. A true Barcelona fan would not re-sell their ticket for the match. If you are not going to the match, give it to a family member, or you could even use the 'Seient Lliure' service (an automated ticket service used by some Spanish clubs including Barcelona).

From now on, the responsibility lies with UEFA and the club itself to ensure who the ticket is sold to. The best thing for all of us would be that you as a supporter, in a moment of lucidity, decide not to travel if you do not have tickets. As that is never going to happen, those who sell the tickets illegally must be brought to justice. But the best thing would be if we never had to play Rangers again.


(Printed in El Mundo, 8/11/2007)

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Rondolfus wrote: »

Funny how those defending Rangers can never give an explanation for their consistent terrible behaviour in Europe. Their behaviour which is in tune with their philosophy of "hating everything foreign." Remember the following article? Written by a Spanish journalist after a Rangers CL game. Really hits the nail on the head , and is true for most of their away visits. Regardless what you think of Celtic, you can't deny they have an impeccable away record when it comes to fan relations and they have even suceeded making friendships with clubs like St Pauli and Villarreal (my team). Rangers have isolated themsleves by their inherent xenophobia, in a similar way that Lazio have.

Are you going to take on board what happened or just use this to have a go at Rangers THIS WAS THE ACT OF ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AS HAS BEEN SAID BY EDU HIMSELF. And if you can show me any club of significant size that does not have morons in it's support then that would really interest me.

Rondolfus

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Are you going to take on board what happened or just use this to have a go at Rangers THIS WAS THE ACT OF ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AS HAS BEEN SAID BY EDU HIMSELF. And if you can show me any club of significant size that does not have morons in it's support then that would really interest me.

Every club has morons. It just so happens that Rangers have more than the average which is why double the security is needed when Rangers play in Spain than is needed for Celtic.

Also , I brought the issue of the Rangers fans behaviour abroad becuase the thread has gone off on a tangent about how Celtic fans are just as bad" as Rangers, which I don't feel is supported by any facts at all.

Yes Celtic have some idiots, but the fact of the matter is Rangers have the reputation of being trouble-makers not only in mainland Europe but also in Britain as seen by their recent trip to manchester.

I am not even a Celtic fan so I have no agenda. Back to the orignal point I wouldn't be suprised if it was thousands of Rangers fans that racially abused the young lad becuase after all the club is well known for its xenophobia and for its links with the BNP. True two fans don't represent a club, but racism and Rangers seem to go hand in hand.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Rondolfus wrote: »

Every club has morons. It just so happens that Rangers have more than the average which is why double the security is needed when Rangers play in Spain than is needed for Celtic.

Also , I brought the issue of the Rangers fans behaviour abroad becuase the thread has gone off on a tangent about how Celtic fans are just as bad" as Rangers, which I don't feel is supported by any facts at all.

Yes Celtic have some idiots, but the fact of the matter is Rangers have the reputation of being trouble-makers not only in mainland Europe but also in Britain as seen by their recent trip to manchester.

I am not even a Celtic fan so I have no agenda. Back to the orignal point I wouldn't be suprised if it was thousands of Rangers fans that racially abused the young lad becuase after all the club is well known for its xenophobia and for its links with the BNP. True two fans don't represent a club, but racism and Rangers seem to go hand in hand.

The Rangers Football club has no links to the BNP anymore than Celtic football club have links to the IRA certain factions of fans of both clubs have links to each organisation.

The fact whether you would be surprised if it was thousands is irrelevant as has been stated it was a couple of people.

Rangers have had many coloured players in there ranks and none have been abused Beasley. Darchville, Cousin, Walters, Bernard to name a few you really need to look outside that bubble of perfection you seem to live in or are you in all honesty going to tell me your club does not have a certain amount of fans who are undesirable.

The thread has went more off tangent with your exercise in trying to tar all Rangers fans with the same brush

Rondolfus

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

The thread has went more off tangent with your exercise in trying to tar all Rangers fans with the same brush

Firstly I think the post was relevant because the previous posts were getting into the business of comparing Celtic and Rangers. One post was even having a go at the Celtic chairman. How relevant that to the original topic? I was merely stating, whether you like it or not, in Europe it is Rangers that are percieved as the trouble-makers which is why their presence warrants double the level of security. Rangers fans were in trouble with Uefa for giving the nazi salute while playing in Israel, why would I be surpsied that SOME of their fans made racist remarks to edu??

Secondly, I never tried to tar all Rangers fans with the same Brush. I said that the proportion of troublemakers at Rangers is greater than that of the average club its size ( which again is backed up by their recent history) . Even though its still a minority it is a large minority.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote:

Rangers have had many coloured players in there ranks and none have been abused Beasley. Darchville, Cousin, Walters, Bernard to name a few

I think you'll find the term "coloured" is actually quite offensive. Anyway, a huge amount of Catholic players have played for Rangers in the last ten years but this hasn't stopped a large proportion of the fans being venemously anti-Catholic. So why do you think the presence of the above players would stop them being racist? Cetlic is historically left wing, Rangers is historically right wing. I know this and I'm not a fan of either! Racism is quite common among right wing organisations.

Brewster

Rondolfus wrote: »

Funny how those defending Rangers can never give an explanation for their consistent terrible behaviour in Europe. Their behaviour which is in tune with their philosophy of "hating everything foreign." Remember the following article? Written by a Spanish journalist after a Rangers CL game. Really hits the nail on the head , and is true for most of their away visits. Regardless what you think of Celtic, you can't deny they have an impeccable away record when it comes to fan relations and they have even suceeded making friendships with clubs like St Pauli and Villarreal (my team). Rangers have isolated themsleves by their inherent xenophobia, in a similar way that Lazio have.

Rondolfus, I am afraid you are very much misinformed. On Rangers run to Uefa Cup final two years ago, they visited many countries and they had the sum total of "zero" fan arrests! I would take the word of the Spanish Police before some random journalist! So something doesn't add up here re this bad behaviour? Manchester was always going to be troublesome due to amount of football hooligans in the city that day.

Rondolfus

Brewster wrote: »

Manchester was always going to be troublesome due to amount of football hooligans in the city that day.

Why was there more football hooligans than normal?? Could it be because Rangers were playing? How come there didn't seem to be any when United played Celtic??

I'm just saying what the majority of European football fans think i.e Rangers are a right wing club. I lived in Rome for two years and noticed a similar defensive atitude with Lazio fans. People in Italy looked upon them as fascists, they would naturally respond all guns blazing about the ills of AS Roma. The more criticism they got the more they fell into a siege mentality. They thought they were being picked on yada yada yada.... Around Europe Lazio have a bad reputation regardless of what they say. The same is true for Rangers. When I was living in Rome, sports shops wouldn't stock Rangers jerseys becuase they perceived them as extremely anti-Catholic. The fact is the majority of Europe is Catholic, therefore regardless of Rangers behaviour, it isn't hard to see why they are not exactly welcomed with open arms to the likes of Spain and Italy considering their anti-Catholic ethos.

bobbysands81

Brewster wrote: »

Rondolfus, I am afraid you are very much misinformed. On Rangers run to Uefa Cup final two years ago, they visited many countries and they had the sum total of "zero" fan arrests!

I presume you can back this up with fact?

Brewster wrote: »

I would take the word of the Spanish Police before some random journalist! So something doesn't add up here re this bad behaviour? Manchester was always going to be troublesome due to amount of football hooligans in the city that day.

So who were these hooligans there to support??? Oh yes, it was Rangers!

Brewster

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I presume you can back this up with fact?


So who were these hooligans there to support??? Oh yes, it was Rangers!

I remember reading this at time of their run to UEFA final, this included their CL away games. I was very surprised myself that at least a few drunks weren't arrested for minor offences but apparently not. These were official police reports in the cities they visited. Would be very hard to track down all these reports at this stage.


Hooligans dont support teams Bobby. They fight, thats what they do. They have no interest in tactics, team selections. They simply have an urge to fight, anyone, anywhere anytime....