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Smart Telecom ADSL 1:1 contention.

  • 21-10-2009 10:10pm
    #1
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭


    How do Smart achieve a 1:1 ratio when the best the opposition has to offer is 18:1 on the same overloaded degraded and attenuated copper.

    Do Smart subscribers see this advertised ratio in speeds?


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  • #2
    Kensington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kensington


    They don't give you 1:1 contention - such a service costs far more per month, than you'd pay in a year!!! What Smart do do is try and maintain enough backhaul to the entire exchange so that everyone can use the internet but not experience slowdowns, even at peak time.

    They did have a problem with their Letterkenny exchange a while back, I do believe, where they kept adding on subscribers but had problems adding extra capacity to the exchange - meant a lot of people's internet went to feck during peak times.


  • #3
    pizzahead77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭pizzahead77


    Kensington is correct but only for their ADSL2+ LLU packages. There is contention but what Smart actually do is synch you higher than the actual speed of the package you are on to allow for TCP/IP overheads.

    I am a Smart LLU customer and I have always managed to hit my full speeds at any time of the day.

    For the Smart ADSL products these are resold Eircom bitstream products and would have the same contention ratios as any other provider.


  • #4
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    pizzahead77 wrote: »
    Kensington is correct but only for their ADSL2+ LLU packages. There is contention but what Smart actually do is synch you higher than the actual speed of the package you are on to allow for TCP/IP overheads.

    I am a Smart LLU customer and I have always managed to hit my full speeds at any time of the day.

    For the Smart ADSL products these are resold Eircom bitstream products and would have the same contention ratios as any other provider.

    The 24/24 package seems like great value (if they stay in business).
    What do you mean "by sycnh you higher" sorry but i not technical.


  • #5
    lynchie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭lynchie


    Contention has nothing to do with the copper line going into your home. Its to do with the number of copper lines contending for bandwidth from the exchange onwards.

    Smart sync people at higher speeds as for example a 3Mb line cannot actually transmit a full 3Mbit at any one time due to network overheads so they sync at say 3.3Mb so that you cant transfer a full 3Mbit per second.


  • #6
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    do smart have latent bandwidth that they allocate as needed to contended adsl+ users, or do they just overfire all the time?


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  • #7
    DECEiFER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Didn't they (in the past) / do they advertise 1:1 contention as a selling point of their LLU2 packages?


  • #8
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    Didn't they (in the past) / do they advertise 1:1 contention as a selling point of their LLU2 packages?

    As far as I remember they advertised it as contention free which for the average user it essentially is.


  • #9
    DECEiFER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    As far as I remember they advertised it as contention free which for the average user it essentially is.
    They don't seem to any more, or maybe I missed it when I looked just then. Maybe they were told not to anymore for legal reasons? I'm sure that even if the service feels like it's contention free, saying that it is wouldn't be exactly legal?


  • #10
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    They don't seem to any more, or maybe I missed it when I looked just then. Maybe they were told not to anymore for legal reasons? I'm sure that even if the service feels like it's contention free, saying that it is wouldn't be exactly legal?

    That's never stopped the mobile industry telling us how wonderful their "broadband" products are, advertising headline speeds and making it sound like that's the speed you will get. Misleading in the extreme.

    I don't see why it would be a problem for Smart...


  • #11
    DECEiFER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    bealtine wrote: »
    That's never stopped the mobile industry telling us how wonderful their "broadband" products are, advertising headline speeds and making it sound like that's the speed you will get. Misleading in the extreme.

    I don't see why it would be a problem for Smart...
    I agree, just curious as to why they don't seem to say it on their product pages anymore (or does it still, and I've just missed it)?


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