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Average sick in the Irish Civil Service is comparable to other countries

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    #122
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    MrMicra wrote: »
    ... We clearly need a department of administrative affairs in this country.

    That's Jim Hacker/Sir Humphrey territory. Yeah, that's what we need.

    [I am now blowing my mind imagining Sir Humphrey trying to explain things to Bertie. That's a conversation that Jay and Lynn, for all their writing talent, would have great difficulty in scripting.]


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    #123
    NewDubliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭NewDubliner


    MrMicra wrote: »
    We clearly need a department of administrative affairs in this country.
    It's a unit of the Department of Finance, called The Centre for Management and Organisation Development (CMOD). It was decentralised by the then Minister for Finance to Tullamore in his own constituency, requiring the replacement of most of its staff and causing a massive loss of expertese. Since then, its operational costs have gone up.


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    #124
    MrMicra
    Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭MrMicra


    If Sir Humphrey had been in charge decentralisation would never have happened.
    Ireland would be very lucky to have a Taoiseach as competent as Jim Hacker.

    Unfortunately the Civil Service has been comprehensively Fianna Failised.


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    #125
    the_syco
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    bridgitt wrote: »
    Ask any farmer or self-employed person how many sick days they take, or can afford to take, off each year on average;)
    If a farmer had a cold, they'd goto work. If the self-employed had a cold, he'd goto work. If a nurse had a cold, and went to work in an area where people are aready sick, the virus would be spread.
    bridgitt wrote: »
    Despite less stress, more holidays and better pay ?
    Less stress? Undermanned and working long hours, I doubt the nurses and doctors have "less stress".


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    #126
    future_plans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 380 ✭✭future_plans


    To be honest, I don't think people in general begrudge doctors, nurses, Gardaí etc their entitlements and any work related stress or sickleave......Where people have a problem is the clerical and admin staff working (laugh) in the various departmental offices around the country. Motor Tax, county council staff, employees of the various quangos, clerical and middle men in the HSE, FAS & other state run bodies, etc etc etc It would be interesting to compile a list of those types of jobs in another thread maybe.


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    #127
    NewDubliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭NewDubliner


    MrMicra wrote: »
    If Sir Humphrey had been in charge decentralisation would never have happened.
    It didn't. Over 300m in costs and most of the people who 'decentralised', didn't live or work in Dublin and didn't even move house (which as part of the plan to stimulate the 'lucky' towns.)
    MrMicra wrote: »
    IUnfortunately the Civil Service has been comprehensively Fianna Failised.
    Which is why it's so messed up - political interferance. Jobs for the country cousins.


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    #128
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    NewDubliner wrote: »
    It didn't. Over 300m in costs and most of the people who 'decentralised', didn't live or work in Dublin and didn't even move house (which as part of the plan to stimulate the 'lucky' towns.)

    Which is why it's so messed up - political interferance. Jobs for the country cousins.

    Where did you get the costs for it? I never seen the govt able to come up for a figure for it.


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    #129
    NewDubliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭NewDubliner


    BostonB wrote: »
    Where did you get the costs for it? I never seen the govt able to come up for a figure for it.
    Here see page 6 under the column 'cumulative costs to July 2009'.

    Ironically, they paid for some of this by selling off properties in Dublin, the loans on which are probably in the NAMA bundle.


    Note that it cost 20m for Arts Sports and Tourism (121 staff) in Killarney, and just 1m for half that number in Kilrush (Revenue).


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    #130
    doc_17
    Registered Users Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭doc_17


    All the private sector people who are on here giving out would probably all take the sick/hangover days if they thought they could get away with it


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    #131
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I dont agree with sweeping generalisation of either sector. its not useful and just inflamatory.


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    #132
    srvhead
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭srvhead


    BostonB wrote: »
    I dont agree with sweeping generalisation of either sector. its not useful and just inflamatory.

    At last, a bit of sense. The govt in cahoots with the print media have created a public / private divide. Divide and conquor and they are currently lambasting us all. At the end of the day it will be the middle income earners which will carry the can yet again, be they private or public sector, possibly for decades to come. No tax shelters for the paye tax-bashed!


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