Late Late Show 23rd October 2009

Johnny Giles

What does the Aoibheann see in the fella?


He's just lanky bones and sloppy skin. Hardly good enough for our Rose.

Ryan you lucky bollocks.

Ally Dick

They say the camera adds ten pounds. If that's the case then Ryan Tubridy must be close to anorexic. He even looks pencil thin on a wide screen tv !

mega man

i find it hard to watch tubridy. his lack of self confidence makes him difficult to watch.

Andrew the Dog

As a twenty-seven-year-old gay man, I have found the whole Donal Og Cusack story over the past week truly inspiring. I really admire what he's done - I don't know a whole lot about him, but he came across as a modest, sound guy and really got his point across well.
I think the whole story and the interview itself will do a lot to help gay teenagers, as well as help reconcile families who might have had trouble coming to terms with having a gay child.

Bravo, Donal Og.

cufroige

Did anybody else notice Tubridy's subtle pop at Daniel O Donnell's expense in terms of Daniel's reference to birds? Daniel was talking about his canary bird.. I noticed it was the audience who instigated the double entendre, but Tubridy picked up on it & brought it onto the stage! How unprofessional & childish!

Add this to Tubridy's immature 'slagging' of people wearing glasses, and I see a very insecure side to him emerging. It's very interesting that the Late Late is exposing this side to him, I wonder does he notice himself? I would find this very unnerving personally. It's bound to take a toll on the guy. It's becoming a bit obvious that Ryan is finding himself very much outside his comfort zone here. I never realised the extent to which he is influenced by his need to 'be liked and accepted' by his audience!

His question to his blonde lady guest (didn't get her name or see the whole interview) was so so condescending and ignorant; "Tell us what you did to yourself?" Jesus Christ, the woman is a living marvel, and she was handled like a child!!

Jesus, the man is capable of doing a good job here, but it's evident that he himself doesn't seem to think so. He seems to give a lot of power over to those he deems the measurers of his own value, the audience. He values their approval above all else, and seems to have conceived the notion that he will only be good enough when THEY say so! Obviously in his early career, those who lauded him as the next Gaybo struck a nerve in the young man and he set that as his ultimate goal & to fall anywhere short of that would be an immense failure to him personally. Why does he think we have such a high expectation of him, it's HIS expectation, not ours. We just want you to be yourself Ryan, but what I'm seeing is the image of a man who doesn't himself know who he is. Physically, this is taking an enormous toll on him because the first thing I noticed last night was the strain manifested in his appearance, he looks shattered and gaunt.

Pat Kenny, as dry & all as he was, never did that. It goes to highlight his skill & confidence as a presenter. He understood that much at least, that the audience are there to be led & fed, not to run the ship. It's showBUSINESS, and not one or the other. Gaybo was unique in that he balanced the two perfectly.

In my opinion, any audience who gets a whiff of the fact that they are not in good, confident hands will become quite confused. It's the blind leading the blind!

I have to admire Ryan's courage in taking on the shoes that "can never be filled", but I also have to question why he did. Was it because he wanted to and felt he was capable, or because he feared if he didn't it would mean a show of admitting he didn't think so himself? Why does Ryan feel a weight of this proportion on his shoulders?

I feel like & fear I'm watching a timebomb.

The 'Late late show' should have been done away with altogether after Gaybo. It had too strong an identity in it's original form, and nothing but the original will ever be acceptable to those of us who in turn became accustomed to that identity.

JonathanAnon

It was a big test for Tubridy and he failed. I didnt think he would to be honest, there seems to be an invisible mass of people out there who like him (though I never meet anyone that does ), and I thought this would carry him. But his questioning and preparation, combined with very poor guests, have led to the show being uninteresting and a bit of a shambles.

I dont like the guy. I think he epitomizes everything that is wrong with our country - guys getting jobs because of their family/political pull instead of talent. So I wont be sad to see him go.

I think the show should be dumped as well. Cut the LLS and save the expense, maybe try to buy in The Jonathan Ross Show instead.

cufroige

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I dont like the guy. I think he epitomizes everything that is wrong with our country - guys getting jobs because of their family/political pull instead of talent. So I wont be sad to see him go.

Is this a bit unfair? I don't have a personal dislike for the guy, I don't think he is without talent & I wouldn't reduce his achievements to family/political pull.
In fact I feel for the guy more than anything. I think he took on something that is a means to a fictional goal, an Ideal, as opposed to it being a career move.

Rondolfus

cufroige wrote: »

I don't think he is without talent & I wouldn't reduce his achievements to family/political pull.

I do and I would

BQQ

JonathanAnon wrote: »

his questioning and preparation, combined with very poor guests, have led to the show being uninteresting and a bit of a shambles.

+1

Squirmed when he forced a clearly reluctant Donal Og to quote his father's reaction and again with the incident in Vietnam. Donal Og didn't want to go into details and repeatedly said "it's well documented in the book", but Tubbs kept pushing for the juicy bits. :mad:

Also a real Alan Partridge moment with the former alcoholic - "when did you feel ..Nah, I'm a basket-case?" :eek:

agk2007

What was the name of the singer with the house on her head? Liked the song. Thanks!

mikom

Amy Winehouse?

agk2007

Found it - Julie Feeney

agk2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI1TGrkNUmg

Aidric

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I dont like the guy. I think he epitomizes everything that is wrong with our country - guys getting jobs because of their family/political pull instead of talent. So I wont be sad to see him go.

That's simply incorrect. He worked his way up from basic researcher to where he is now at RTE. Fair enough if you don't like the guy but at least get your facts right.

Mental Mickey

BQQ wrote: »

+1

Squirmed when he forced a clearly reluctant Donal Og to quote his father's reaction and again with the incident in Vietnam. Donal Og didn't want to go into details and repeatedly said "it's well documented in the book", but Tubbs kept pushing for the juicy bits. :mad:

Also a real Alan Partridge moment with the former alcoholic - "when did you feel ..Nah, I'm a basket-case?" :eek:

Ratings, ratings, ratings. The LLS should've been dumped a looooooooooong time ago. Also, the "Late Late House Band" is a ****in stupid idea - it's just the Tubridy Show under a different guise. Lame stuff from RTE.

parasite

wasn't he a book reviewer on some tv show when he was about 12

Mental Mickey

parasite wrote: »

wasn't he a book reviewer on some tv show when he was about 12

The Late Late. Aye

Shakyfan

Some possible future guests that are doing book signings in Easons in Dublin

Marian Keyes
signing copies of Brightest Star in the Sky
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:30 PM

Dara O'Briain
signing copies of Tickling the English
Saturday, 07 November 2009 at 12:00 PM

Brendan Grace
O'Connell Street, Dublin
Saturday, 21 November 2009 at 12:30 PM

.....and a rank outsider.......

Mr. Tayto
signing copies of Mr Tayto the Man Inside the Jacket
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:30 PM

youngblood

Donal gave a great interview, its just a pity the lame excuse for a host, Tubridy, couldnt have prepared a bit more for the interview.. It is his job after all.

MagicMarker

Shakyfan wrote: »

Some possible future guests that are doing book signings in Easons in Dublin

Marian Keyes
signing copies of Brightest Star in the Sky
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:30 PM

Dara O'Briain
signing copies of Tickling the English
Saturday, 07 November 2009 at 12:00 PM

Brendan Grace
O'Connell Street, Dublin
Saturday, 21 November 2009 at 12:30 PM

.....and a rank outsider.......

Mr. Tayto
signing copies of Mr Tayto the Man Inside the Jacket
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:30 PM

Marian Keyes - Yawn, maybe a free tampon for every member of the audience that night?

Dara O'Briain - I'd say he'd be a good guest but what would he talk about?

Brendan Grace - Almost as bad as Daniel O'Donnell

Mental Mickey

Shakyfan wrote: »

Some possible future guests that are doing book signings in Easons in Dublin

Marian Keyes
signing copies of Brightest Star in the Sky
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:30 PM

Dara O'Briain
signing copies of Tickling the English
Saturday, 07 November 2009 at 12:00 PM

Brendan Grace
O'Connell Street, Dublin
Saturday, 21 November 2009 at 12:30 PM

.....and a rank outsider.......

Mr. Tayto
signing copies of Mr Tayto the Man Inside the Jacket
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:30 PM

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Mental Mickey

MagicMarker wrote: »

Marian Keyes - Yawn, maybe a free tampon for every member of the audience that night?

Dara O'Briain - I'd say he'd be a good guest but what would he talk about?

Brendan Grace - Almost as bad as Daniel O'Donnell

himself

Johnny Weasel

Andrew the Dog wrote: »

As a twenty-seven-year-old gay man, I have found the whole Donal Og Cusack story over the past week truly inspiring. I really admire what he's done - I don't know a whole lot about him, but he came across as a modest, sound guy and really got his point across well.
I think the whole story and the interview itself will do a lot to help gay teenagers, as well as help reconcile families who might have had trouble coming to terms with having a gay child.

Bravo, Donal Og.

I wonder did himself and Daniel go for a chocolate kebab after the show?;)

JonathanAnon

That's simply incorrect. He worked his way up from basic researcher to where he is now at RTE. Fair enough if you don't like the guy but at least get your facts right.

There are many others who have more experience than him.... G Ryan (53), Miriam (49), Mooney (42) ... nearly everyone on the list of proposed LLS hosts.

Ryan Tubridy is 36 now. He was given his own Sat nite show when he was 30 years old and the flagship RTE LLS show at 36. After a few years on the radio? He certainly has been treated like the golden boy. If he had the natural ability then I would be the first to say "if he's good enough then give him a shot", but in his first few shows it's clear that he should not have leapfrogged the other people in RTE on the "talent" he has.

I thought that it was also strange that such a well connected FF person should be given the LLS job, as his objectivity will always be in question when they are discussing politics.

We're paying this man nearly a million euros for a fluff one hour piece (mostly about books) five days a week, and a poorly researched, humourless, boring and awkward LLS. tbh, this will be a moot point anyway in about 8 months when either a) he's dropped or b) the show is cancelled.

Also, I never realised Gay Byrne was soo good. He just had a natural ease with any type of guest, asked the right questions, and knew when to let a guy ramble on. Ryan Tubridy makes me appreciate just how good Gaybo was.

Mental Mickey

JonathanAnon wrote: »

There are many others who have more experience than him.... G Ryan (53), Miriam (49), Mooney (42) ... nearly everyone on the list of proposed LLS hosts.

Ryan Tubridy is 36 now. He was given his own Sat nite show when he was 30 years old and the flagship RTE LLS show at 36. After a few years on the radio? He certainly has been treated like the golden boy. If he had the natural ability then I would be the first to say "if he's good enough then give him a shot", but in his first few shows it's clear that he should not have leapfrogged the other people in RTE on the "talent" he has.

I thought that it was also strange that such a well connected FF person should be given the LLS job, as his objectivity will always be in question when they are discussing politics.

We're paying this man nearly a million euros for a fluff one hour piece (mostly about books) five days a week, and a poorly researched, humourless, boring and awkward LLS. tbh, this will be a moot point anyway in about 8 months when either a) he's dropped or b) the show is cancelled.

Also, I never realised Gay Byrne was soo good. He just had a natural ease with any type of guest, asked the right questions, and knew when to let a guy ramble on. Ryan Tubridy makes me appreciate just how good Gaybo was.

Well said. With PK and Tubridy, it's all about how much they know, and want to say, and not about the guests.

JonathanAnon

sorry that was a double post, dont know how I managed to do that.

Shakyfan

JonathanAnon wrote: »

There are many others who have more experience than him.... G Ryan (53), Miriam (49), Mooney (42) ... nearly everyone on the list of proposed LLS hosts.

Ryan Tubridy is 36 now. He was given his own Sat nite show when he was 30 years old and the flagship RTE LLS show at 36.

Gaybo was born in 1934 making him 28 when the Late Late Show started......:rolleyes:

Rondolfus

Aidric wrote: »

That's simply incorrect. He worked his way up from basic researcher to where he is now at RTE. Fair enough if you don't like the guy but at least get your facts right.

LOL do seriously believe this?? How did he get his position of "basic researcher"?? Do you know how hard it is to get a job as even a cleaner in RTE without knowing someone there??

Fact is the only reason he got his foot in the door of RTE was because of his connections. And again it was becuase of his connections that he was fast tracked through the ranks. The guy is a talentless little creep and it annoys me that people with genuine talent haven't a snowballs chance in hell of presenting the countries premier talk show without RTE connections.

Johnny Giles

Dara O'Briain is on Jonathon Ross next week. Do you think he'd come back to Ireland again?

No.

Ally Dick

cufroige wrote: »

Did anybody else notice Tubridy's subtle pop at Daniel O Donnell's expense in terms of Daniel's reference to birds? Daniel was talking about his canary bird.. I noticed it was the audience who instigated the double entendre, but Tubridy picked up on it & brought it onto the stage! How unprofessional & childish!

In fairness I think wee Daniel brought the tittering on himself. He needs to be more careful with his words. It's like when he goes on about his Mammy's cooking. He is portraying himself as a bit of a simpleton

JonathanAnon

Johnny Giles wrote: »

Dara O'Briain is on Jonathon Ross next week. Do you think he'd come back to Ireland again?

You know he could be exactly what the LLS needs. I think with the contemporary "late night talk show" format comedy is implied. Letterman, Leno, Ross, Craig Ferguson.... all comedians...

I've heard a lot of people saying that by bringing Tubridy on board and having a house band, RTE were trying to emulate the American talk show format. But there is no humour!!!

If you could get Dara O'Brien to stop stuttering and saying "eh" he would be a good choice as a host. However, you would have to abandon any serious element to the show. No politics, no degenerative diseases (as this year's show seems to be choc-a-block with), no panel discussions etc etc....
Maybe this is what should happen and leave the serious stuff to Pat Kenny on The Frontline. It gets my vote.

CliffHuxtabel

JonathanAnon wrote: »

You know he could be exactly what the LLS needs. I think with the contemporary "late night talk show" format comedy is implied. Letterman, Leno, Ross, Craig Ferguson.... all comedians...

I've heard a lot of people saying that by bringing Tubridy on board and having a house band, RTE were trying to emulate the American talk show format. But there is no humour!!!

If you could get Dara O'Brien to stop stuttering and saying "eh" he would be a good choice as a host. However, you would have to abandon any serious element to the show. No politics, no degenerative diseases (as this year's show seems to be choc-a-block with), no panel discussions etc etc....
Maybe this is what should happen and leave the serious stuff to Pat Kenny on The Frontline. It gets my vote.

i thought they offered to d o'b and he said not interested

mikom

JonathanAnon wrote: »

If you could get Dara O'Brien to stop stuttering and saying "eh" he would be a good choice as a host. However, you would have to abandon any serious element to the show.

Trust me, after he hosts the show for a month or so you will begin to hate him.
The late late is now the the talkshow hosts equivalent of the Newcastle United managers job.
A poisoned chalice filled with a weak lemon drink.

Meeja Ireland

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

i thought they offered to d o'b and he said not interested

No, I don't think so. Tubridy was the first choice.

I think a lot of the criticisms on this thread are valid, but I wonder are we laying the blame in the wrong place. Yes, he seems unprepared. Yes, the choice of guests has sometimes been ill-advised. (Osbornes in consecutive weeks?)

Another basic flaw has been the undramatic running order. Friday's show was a good example. It started with Donal Og, an excellent interview with a bright and interesting guy, but the guests got less and less interesting as it went on. This wasn't some mystical unpredictable alchemy. Did he really think a random blind water-skiier was going to fascinate an Irish audience more than the first out GAA star? It's a decision that doesnt bear one moment's scrutiny.

What was going on in the office? If their idea was to lead with the strong item, they don't know the first thing about tension or suspense. We already knew Donal Og was going to be on, and we already knew he was going to be interesting. That spells finale, not intro.

Because isn't some of this down to the production team? Shouldn't they be booking better guests, and providing better research documents? He works on the radio five days a week. This is their only job.

That being said, the power in a chat show format seems to lie entirely with the host, which would make RT ultimately responsible.

Did he pick his own team, does anyone know? Did he insist on importing the Last Year's Joke Quintet? If so, let's burn him in a big wicker Gaybo.

Meeja Ireland

On anther note entirely, can anyone name all seven presenters of the Late Late Show? Three of them were one-offs, but three put in more hours than the current host.

mikom

Bashful, Doc, Dopey, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, and Sneezy.
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Kriskross

Carson, Letterman, Leno, O'Brien, Ross, Byrne--- Tubridy.......
No - Doesn't fit......But he'll stay, maybe even as long as
Kenny.

Ally Dick

Meeja Ireland wrote: »

On anther note entirely, can anyone name all seven presenters of the Late Late Show? Three of them were one-offs, but three put in more hours than the current host.

I'm struggling a bit. I can get Byrne, Kenny, Tubridy, Gerry Ryan and Joe Duffy, but after that I am stumped

Overature

Barack Obama

Johnny Giles

Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, Ryan Tubridy, Frank Hall, Ted Bonner, Marian Finucane, Gerry Ryan.

994

frank hall

KerranJast

Meeja Ireland wrote: »

No, I don't think so. Tubridy was the first choice.

Actually Miriam O'Callaghan was AFAIK but the RTE honchos wouldn't let her have the option of returning to Prime Time if the Late Late didn't work out so she withdrew from consideration.

Meeja Ireland

994 wrote: »

frank hall

Frank Hall did a whole season, apparently, but I've never heard anything about it - except that it wasn't very good. I don't think any of it survives.