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Acer Aspire Revo R3600, £159.95 delivered to Ireland from Ebuyer
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Yes, that would be my choice at the moment as well. Fortunately I don't have to choose anymoreOK, having read this entire post I have the following in my eBuyer Basket and would like some final comments before I take the plunge, just to make sure I'm getting the right gear:-
1. This Revo - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/225756 - It's £75 more than the best value version but with 3GB of RAM instead of 2GB and 500GB HDD instead of 250GB HDD.
But check the site regularly, the cheaper ones keep appearing from time to time! Right now one is available again.
No, I wouldn't go for that one. I don't know anything about this particular drive, but you can get 2TB USB-only drives for significantly less. Check amazon.co.uk, a number of offers from well known manufacturers are available. Personally I own one of those and it works as it should: http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-Desktop/product/B003IPC21Y2. This 2TB USB HDD http://www.ebuyer.com/product/219616 - It's the best value I can find and will primarily be used for storing and playing movies and music. The right choice or not?
Again, I wouldn't go down that route right now. Check how the integrated wifi works in your particular circumstances and decide your options then. If you can't get it to work as needed then I would try something like this first. It's way cheaper, gets rave reviews on DX and can easily be added to your existing infrastructure without all the possible problems of those powerline devices. It will eventually work one way or the other3. These Poweline Adapters to ensure my Revo can go fetch torrents at a fair old clip. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/179960 - Should I wait to see if I can get a decent and reliable Wi-Fi connection between the Revo and my router before investing in these? 0 -
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i don't know about that, i was playig just cause 2 on my R3610 and it was pretty smooth...about 5fps at 640x480.Voodu Child wrote: »What do you mean by online games? These Atom+ION boxes arent anywhere near powerful enough to play modern PC games, not smoothly anyway.
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smccarrick wrote: »On the 3700 with Ubuntu you need to edit two system files:
in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file
add the following line:
blacklist rt2800pci
in the /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf file
add the 2 following option lines:
snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0
probe_mask=0xffff,0xfff2
Also- the wireless n card in the 3700 does not support the 5Ghz band- you need to check what your router is broadcasting on (a 150Mb connection on the 3610 is simply MIMO on the G band).
S.
Turns out it wasn't quite so easy unfortunately!
My problem wasn't really with a lack of wireless or hanging on reboots (although it will fix this!).
I had a fully functioning wireless but only @ 54mb/s instead of 150mb/s+.
Turns out, there's a much, much more annoying problem than that.
The Revo 3700 (or at least just my one) comes with the RaLink 3090 wifi, which Ubuntu doesn't have native drivers for. It'll run on the 2800/2860 drivers fine, but that'll only allow you a max of 54mb/s which may be fine for those who don't have an N router.
So I needed to add the proper drivers myself to up the connection speed.
I followed this guide, for the most part. Unfortunately, since that guide, a lot has changed. Drivers have merged, things have updated and Acer have changed the wifi chipset I think:
http://wombatdiet.net/2010/05/09/ubuntu-10-04-on-asus-1000-eee-pc/
Instead of downloading the RT2860pci drivers as the guide instructs, I downloaded the RT3090pcie drivers instead.
And for every mention of 2860, refer to 3090. Also, the Linux headers version in that guide is out of date so you can't always copy/paste the commands from the guide directly into your terminal as you'll need to enter your own version.
The good thing is, you don't need to edit any files like they do in the guide (cmm_wpa.c and config.mk).
If you try (like I did), you'll meet an a$sload of errors.
If I were to do it again, or if I was handy with Linux/Ubuntu to begin with, it would take a fraction of the time. I only copped about an hour into it that I was installing the drivers for the RT2860 (as the guide tells you!) and my Revo had the RT3090 instead..
Spent probably the guts of 2 hours with my brother walking me through most of this over the phone and finally it worked so I'm happy.0 -
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Turns out it wasn't quite so easy unfortunately!
In my case I simply don't have the time to spend playing with my hardware, as I used to (we've a young child and another on the way). I took the cheaters option- and replaced the wireless card with an Intel 5300..... (note- the 3610 ships with an Atheros card, not the Ralink one). The benefit of the Ralink one in the 3700- is it also has onboard bluetooth on the same chipset.
What speed are you getting from your wireless N on the 3700? (the reason I'm asking is the Atheros on the 3610, while nominally Wireless N, only broadcasts in the 2.2Ghz band, not the 5Ghz band- which is why the usermanual refers to the wireless as 'Draft N', I suppose).0 -
smccarrick wrote: »In my case I simply don't have the time to spend playing with my hardware, as I used to (we've a young child and another on the way). I took the cheaters option- and replaced the wireless card with an Intel 5300..... (note- the 3610 ships with an Atheros card, not the Ralink one). The benefit of the Ralink one in the 3700- is it also has onboard bluetooth on the same chipset.
What speed are you getting from your wireless N on the 3700? (the reason I'm asking is the Atheros on the 3610, while nominally Wireless N, only broadcasts in the 2.2Ghz band, not the 5Ghz band- which is why the usermanual refers to the wireless as 'Draft N', I suppose).
Ahh well congrats.
Well, it was a complete pain in the as$ if I'm honest because I'm not completely au fait with everything that is Ubuntu. If I had the spare money and the hindsight, I'd probably have cheated too.. :P
I'm getting between 135 and 150mb/s now from both 3610 and 3700 and my router is on the 2.2ghz band.
I've another PC (1 wall and 10 feet away from the 3610) with a wireless dongle getting in the region of 175mb/s.
PS. I didn't realise this had bluetooth - interesting! Although, I imagine it's another complete disaster waiting in the midst.. 0 -
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Cheers Voodu Child.
I don't have a separate DVD drive; is it possible to make a system repair disc for the Revo on another PC, if I copy the system image there via an external hard drive, and store the .ISO for Armageddon scenarios?
As for the clean install, I could use a bootable USB containing another copy of Win7 Pro 64-bit (site licenced from work), no? Or do you reckon something like the PCDecrapifier would do a good enough job on the factory-installed Home Premium?
And cheers for the tip about holding off on the new RAM - I didn't realise a memory upgrade would void the warranty. That's a bit stinky, isn't it? 0 -
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peckerhead wrote: »It sure does! :eek: Running PCDecrapifier on it as I speak...
Mine had just two (108GB) partitions, one of them with the OS and one empty, which I could probably merge into one using Disk Management. I'll see about leaving on the Win7 64-bit installation that came with it, if the decrapifier and Revo Uninstaller do a good cleanup job.
There's actually a third, hidden, partition.
You won't see it from inside windows. You'll have to use the cmd prompt and find it. If you were to boot from your USB stick into the windows install, it would show up however.
The third partition has 1, if not 2, software installs on it. Running the uninstaller for Acer Arcade Deluxe caused my PC to hang. Quick google showed that other people had same issue and it was due to this third partition.Voodu Child wrote: »Unfortuantely you can't actually use the full 4GB on the Revo 3600 or 3610 anyway, even with a 64-bit OS. 768MB is immediately unusable, and then add on whatever you have allocated to your GPU.
Its a known hardware problem.
I don't think that's a hardware problem though as that kind of thing happens with a lot of PC's with integrated graphics/sound and so on. More like a hardware limitation!
I could be wrong though.0 -
I don't think that's a hardware problem though as that kind of thing happens with a lot of PC's with integrated graphics/sound and so on. More like a hardware limitation!
I could be wrong though.
Im referring to a problem that is specific to the Revo 3600 and 3610. Its a known issue:
http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3432/~/aspire-revo-r3600-or-r3610-recognizes-3gb-of-ram
Here's a normal 4GB system with Win7 x64:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zywprl.jpg
Now go and put 4GB into a revo with Win7 x64 and post a screenshot showing the hardware reserved RAM. It'll be something like 768 + VRAM.0 -
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Just a few points, since I have my Revo3610 (and my new G2222HDL screen) up and running now.
I did the burning of the recovery discs using the VirtualCD10 trialware. Not much to talk about, just install it (it's free for 30 days), mount a virtual blank and "burn" the discs to an .iso file. Easy.
The Revo3610 comes with Win7 x64. The installed memory is in the form of one stick of 2GB rather than 2x1GB, precisely it is a Kingston module ACR256X64D2S800C6 (PC2-6400/400MHz). And this apparently is good memory, because even without opening the box I have it running now at 1.92GHz (160x12) in contrast to the standard 1.6GHz (133x12). I have run a series of short benchmarks using wprime (32M) a few hours ago and it gave me the follwing results:
133x12/1600MHz 67.721s
150x12/1800MHz 61.917s
155x12/1860MHz 58.341s
160x12/1920MHz 56.565s <- my clock rate of choice for the long term
163x12/1955MHz 55.365s
So it really works, but I didn't try to go any higher than 1.955GHz. At that rate the memory clocks at almost 490MHz (which is very good for the kind of memory that comes with the Revo), but I didn't want to push it above 500MHz and risk a bluescreen. So I settled at said 1920 MHz, a fair 20% above the original performance and with a good bit of safety margin remaining. The memory speed now goes up from 400MHz to 480MHz and the system seems to cope without any problem. I followed that guide and it really worked instantly. The type of board (at least mine) is "FMCP7A-ION-LE", you need that for the .ini-file. Funnily if I am running VLC now it also is 20% quicker, which I didn't expect. So if you want to watch a movie in realtime you have to set the speed to 0.83 or simply switch the overclocking off, because it really is fast enough for watching videos at 1.6GHz.
I am very happy so far. I didn't do a clean install by the way, just a thorough manual cleaning of the drive. I like my Revo 0 -
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Voodu Child wrote: »Here's a normal 4GB system with Win7 x64:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zywprl.jpg
Yeah I use 4GB in my PC here in Win7 x64.Voodu Child wrote: »Im referring to a problem that is specific to the Revo 3600 and 3610. Its a known issue:
http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3432/~/aspire-revo-r3600-or-r3610-recognizes-3gb-of-ram
Now go and put 4GB into a revo with Win7 x64 and post a screenshot showing the hardware reserved RAM. It'll be something like 768 + VRAM.
You are obviously right in the -768mb of RAM point, but my last post was mainly about it not being a 'known issue', but more of a limitation.
But with all that being said, I wasn't aware of the exact amount the Revo would use before you mentioned it. I had expected/hoped it would be closer to 500mb'ish though..
Very nice results Quaderno!0 -
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not sure, i don't have a 360, i was talking about the really old black ones.Hi Vibe,
Thanks for the info.
I assume an xBox 360 attached to one of the 2 TV's I want to stream to is a good starting point??
Ben
although they do say that you can use a 360 as a windows media centre extender and Win7 home premium & ultimate both have windows media centre built in so it should be easy enough.
a quick test would be to start up MCE on any win& PC and give it a go.
iu imagine there would be some kind of download for the 360 too to enable it as an MCE extender, but google will show you the way there i reckon.
if that works then you could probably get a few pre-owned 360's from game or gamestop for under 100 quid these days too if that was the way you wanted to go.
how many TV's are we talking about anyway?
you're probably going to get bogged down pretty quickly over wireless with more than a couple of streams going at the same time.0 -
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