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    #32
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    I didnt vote.


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    #33
    In_tuition
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭In_tuition


    Why are these memorials erected in Drogheda & Duleek?


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    #34
    starn
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    Really, but men died so ou could vote ;)


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    #35
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    starn wrote: »
    Care to elaborate
    I refer you to the urban dictionary.


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    #36
    dlofnep
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    garrincha62 wrote: »
    I will clarify, I find the whole commemoration of it silly, and overblown. I found the 90th anniversary embarrassing and think the 100 year anniversary will be worse.

    I understand 1916 and the motivations of it alright. It's the vying for the tradition of it afterwards that sickens me.

    That's fine, it's entirely your right to find a commemoration to be silly, or indeed anything to be silly.

    So long as you acknowledge that commemoration of independance is seen throughout the world. It is not unique to Ireland. I assume you find holidays like 4th of July to be equally silly?


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    #37
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    In_tuition wrote: »
    Why are these memorials erected in Drogheda & Duleek?

    I think that the Drogheda memorial, in keeping with SF/IRA tradition, was illegally erected. Not sure about the Duleek one though-local republican nut proposed it to the best of my knowledge...


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    #38
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    dlofnep wrote: »
    That's fine, it's entirely your right to find a commemoration to be silly, or indeed anything to be silly.

    So long as you acknowledge that commemoration of independance is seen throughout the world. It is not unique to Ireland. I assume you find holidays like 4th of July to be equally silly?

    Yes I do. I find them crass.


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    #39
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    garrincha62 wrote: »
    Yes I do. I find them crass.

    Well, at least your consistent. I'll give you that.


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    #40
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    I'm a firm believer in what Samuel Johnson said ' Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel'.


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    #41
    starn
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    Bigdeadlydave wrote: »
    I refer you to the urban dictionary.

    Now now that wouldnt work in courth and it wont work here,


    How many members of the "1916 goverment" were legally elected ?

    Did your "heroes of 16" have a mandate political or populist from the people. to do what theey did ?

    Where there actions representitive of the will of the people of Ireland ?


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    #42
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    courth?


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    #43
    In_tuition
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    was illegally erected.

    No doubt.

    Thanks.


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    #44
    starn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    garrincha62 wrote: »
    I think that the Drogheda memorial, in keeping with SF/IRA tradition, was illegally erected.

    If it was erected illegally, why hasnt it been removed ?

    Its a real eye sore.


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    #45
    starn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    Bigdeadlydave wrote: »
    courth?

    Court you spanner
    Im Dyslexic
    Now answer the questions ?


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    #46
    furiousox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,966 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Bobby Sands was never convicted of murdering anyone.


    l would (now) view Sands as a freedom fighter and l admire the strength he had in his beliefs, to the extent that he chose to die a slow and painful death.

    l'm less impressed that he chose to further the "cause" for a united lreland......by attempting to blow up a furniture shop in Dunmurry


    lnteresting bio here


    http://larkspirit.com/hungerstrikes/bios/sands.html

    CPL 593H



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    #47
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    starn wrote: »
    If it was erected illegally, why hasnt it been removed ?

    Its a real eye sore.

    I think local SF politicians came to some arrangement to the council. Personally I would like it removed as it serves no purpose to the people of Drogheda.


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    #48
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    I like the monument, it should remain.


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    #49
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    No doubt.


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    #50
    In_tuition
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    garrincha62 wrote: »
    I would like it removed as it serves no purpose to the people of Drogheda.

    I agree.


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    #51
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Flame wars ahoy...


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    #52
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    Why would you want it removed?
    It is a reminder (just like the world war monument) of the sacrifces of those who came before, and the events of the past.


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    #53
    starn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    Ok, I think it should be altered, to maybe a breakfast table with a full Irish fry on it, and maybe a pack of pampers sitting on one of the chairs. We all know what those republicans are like.


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    #54
    Kalashnikov_Kid
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    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Flame wars ahoy...

    The people of Drogheda have spoken - replace the hunger strike memorial with a statue of Oliver Cromwell carrying a torch.


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    #55
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »
    The people of Drogheda have spoken - replace the hunger strike memorial with a statue of Oliver Cromwell carrying a torch.
    And the queen could be in it too lol


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    #56
    starn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    Might be best to keep the Queen out of it. The monarchy werent to fond of Cromwell


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    #57
    Quality
    Registered Users Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    Bigdeadlydave wrote: »
    And the queen could be in it too lol


    And if you really want to piss them off, stick in a few rowdy Dubs...


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    #58
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    garrincha62 wrote: »
    Neither was Himmler, but thats ok then.

    He commited suicide so he wouldn't face a jury.Your point being?


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    #59
    southlouth type
    Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    starn wrote: »
    Might be best to keep the Queen out of it. The monarchy werent to fond of Cromwell
    .

    Why keep the queen out of this debate ? it surely has something to do with her if your debating nationalism and republican commemoration


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    #60
    Mr Magnolia
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    OP, your question has been answered.

    If any of you wish to discuss this further you can take it to politics. I'd advise you to read the charter there before you post though.

    Closed.


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